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OF rocked the box. If we had it now it would be totally different and there would be more whines generated about it being shit and wanting NF back. Nuff said :<
Givf OF back ......
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Matriarch|Sneakers
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Straef said:
Your so sarcastic and bitter these days, have daddeh stoped visiting :<??
where is the luv
Konstantin
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rox !tho to bad theres so many cheaters and lamers on those servers....Septina said:
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Congax said:
Give something to do on that boring realm and sure
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Congax said:
I'll think about it! Going down a mates for a week though on Friday
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Hoho, coming from the brightest mind of FH.>.< Pooned said:
It's been months since he last gave me a good, rough time :<Matriarch|Sneakers said:Your so sarcastic and bitter these days, have daddeh stoped visiting :<??
where is the luv
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>.< Pooned said:
just rewind the game 2-3yrs, keep class balance changes, keep the current ra system - but reduce the cost of anti-cc/magic ra's for tanks (not hybrids - this includes savages btw ;p)
+OF
-ToA
-Cata
-DR
-milegates(or +2nd mg)
what a shame mythic are too dumb/$mart to do it.
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Konah said:
very nice the $mart meaning
>.< Pooned said:
Don't think that has to do with OF tho.
A game do becomes boring after a while... and that's nothing new. A return of OF might get some players back.... But not for good. Eventually even you will become bored of this game. That's the way things work.
Warhammer will be a new game to try out with a new and old playerdatabase. I suggest you should start looking forward to that rather then trying to get back old memories.
Ghaladriel
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Muylaetrix said:
Haha i like this more too xD
50% of your playtime was walking to emain just to get zerged down by a bunch of stealthers. Sure it was days when everything did go well and you could stand between apk<->amg and pick of incs. But in total it was walking with no speed in 20 mins to just insta die at the mg's and start walking for 20 mins again..Succi said:
Matriarch|Sneakers
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For the people that says it's all glorified memories, for some it might be - I know some people didn't like OF and the mechanics/scenary but alot of people did. For me I had to take my buisness elsewhere, to a freeshard and even though that ain't as good as mythic could ever make it to be, it works for me atm.
Yesterdaty there was 250 ppl in emain / odins / HW and sure there was zergs, there was adding and there one or two silly speedhackers, but god I still enjoyed it. One exampel was 4-5 fg mids at mmg fighing 3 fg hibs and 2 fg albs arrive and go up on the BMs and just farmed the SHIT out of them, damn that was a blast. Some people like to take keeps and camp with bomb groups, some like the open warfare zerg fights and some like the 1337 8v8 fights were they can go head to head with equal minded ppl, OF had ALL that. NF have a zerg and thats it. Solo rvr isn't working very well, can't compare it to OF. 8v8 isn't as good either, though I didn't play that much since minstrels hardly got any invites at all.
Then I have to say that the atmosphere Odins gate, Emain and Hadrians gave is 100x the atmosphere New Frontiers gives. Just that alone is an indicator that NF is bollocks and a mayor step-down.
OF +'s:
+ Scenary, alot more intelligent then NF ever will be.
+ Travel routes, that provided targets for soloers, assasssins and small groups, also provided a "cool down effect". If you die you get penalized.
+ Class balance during the last patch was > the crap we have to put up with now.
+ There was a zone for every persons desire, if you liked zerg go Emain, if you liked solo/small scale/8v8 go Odins. If you where into roleplay and stric solo fights you could go Hadrians. You could go to Dodens/Marfach/and the alb version wich my mind slipped. You could as a solo stealther or visual go and camp outside the enemys last strongholds ( as in DL, Svasud, CS and the other three )
+ The keep system in OF was alot better in my opinion, as a 8 man you could take a keep alone and put things in motion, and hold the keep vs a larger froce as keeps are designed to do, in NF you put out trebs and then zerg the defenders.
+ The relic system in OF was much better then the current one in NF is. Only thing that could have been changed in OF was make the relic keeps larger, to reduce lag issues.
+ The PvE system was better in OF, in all ways...even though ToA/catacombs/dr PvE has improved alot over the last year(s).
+The frontier design in OF was alot smarter, even though the zones in a way was smaller they scattered people out more, or atleast gave people an option to go roam elsewhere to pick off enemys before they enter the "hotspot".
OF -'s:
- The milegates where flawed, they should have put ladders/stairs on the other side, and not on the hosting realms side where they could lockdown an attacking force wich in the end resulted in a big ass zerg.
They should also implemented two milegates at each passage and enlarged the zones to make it possible to host a larger nummber of people, ofcourse you need to keep the travel routes so that no area is empty or useless, like in NF.
- The porting system could been a bit better, instead of 15 minutes recycle on the pad they could have lowered it to 10 mins.
- One thing many people did not like was the "long" run towards Emain/Odins/Hadrians. Instead of removing that route make it desireable for enemy groups to travel closer to the enemy strongholds ( aka last defence lines ), travel routes is needed to scatter people and also works as a penality for dying, wich is good, but could need to be tweaked.
Well I could go on and on but about the pulses and minuses but I think most people get what I'm aiming to say, OF was alot better then NF ever could be, even tho OF in all honesty had issues but they could easily been corrected and tweaked.
Yesterdaty there was 250 ppl in emain / odins / HW and sure there was zergs, there was adding and there one or two silly speedhackers, but god I still enjoyed it. One exampel was 4-5 fg mids at mmg fighing 3 fg hibs and 2 fg albs arrive and go up on the BMs and just farmed the SHIT out of them, damn that was a blast. Some people like to take keeps and camp with bomb groups, some like the open warfare zerg fights and some like the 1337 8v8 fights were they can go head to head with equal minded ppl, OF had ALL that. NF have a zerg and thats it. Solo rvr isn't working very well, can't compare it to OF. 8v8 isn't as good either, though I didn't play that much since minstrels hardly got any invites at all.
Then I have to say that the atmosphere Odins gate, Emain and Hadrians gave is 100x the atmosphere New Frontiers gives. Just that alone is an indicator that NF is bollocks and a mayor step-down.
OF +'s:
+ Scenary, alot more intelligent then NF ever will be.
+ Travel routes, that provided targets for soloers, assasssins and small groups, also provided a "cool down effect". If you die you get penalized.
+ Class balance during the last patch was > the crap we have to put up with now.
+ There was a zone for every persons desire, if you liked zerg go Emain, if you liked solo/small scale/8v8 go Odins. If you where into roleplay and stric solo fights you could go Hadrians. You could go to Dodens/Marfach/and the alb version wich my mind slipped. You could as a solo stealther or visual go and camp outside the enemys last strongholds ( as in DL, Svasud, CS and the other three )
+ The keep system in OF was alot better in my opinion, as a 8 man you could take a keep alone and put things in motion, and hold the keep vs a larger froce as keeps are designed to do, in NF you put out trebs and then zerg the defenders.
+ The relic system in OF was much better then the current one in NF is. Only thing that could have been changed in OF was make the relic keeps larger, to reduce lag issues.
+ The PvE system was better in OF, in all ways...even though ToA/catacombs/dr PvE has improved alot over the last year(s).
+The frontier design in OF was alot smarter, even though the zones in a way was smaller they scattered people out more, or atleast gave people an option to go roam elsewhere to pick off enemys before they enter the "hotspot".
OF -'s:
- The milegates where flawed, they should have put ladders/stairs on the other side, and not on the hosting realms side where they could lockdown an attacking force wich in the end resulted in a big ass zerg.
They should also implemented two milegates at each passage and enlarged the zones to make it possible to host a larger nummber of people, ofcourse you need to keep the travel routes so that no area is empty or useless, like in NF.
- The porting system could been a bit better, instead of 15 minutes recycle on the pad they could have lowered it to 10 mins.
- One thing many people did not like was the "long" run towards Emain/Odins/Hadrians. Instead of removing that route make it desireable for enemy groups to travel closer to the enemy strongholds ( aka last defence lines ), travel routes is needed to scatter people and also works as a penality for dying, wich is good, but could need to be tweaked.
Well I could go on and on but about the pulses and minuses but I think most people get what I'm aiming to say, OF was alot better then NF ever could be, even tho OF in all honesty had issues but they could easily been corrected and tweaked.
U are so naive and biased, why do NF only have zerg rvr layout? agramon? solo camp spots, ye briefine could be great IF u had spd, patiance and luck as guards roamed all over the place. now u have all the bridges and docks to camp as solo/stealther. its not good but why is it worse then camping apk mpk? odins was great at times but totallt deserted others so not much diff to as it is now. Fg could take a keep then can do it now, and towers were added so the tower crew had more stuff to do.Matriarch|Sneakers said:
Imo OF had alot of nice stuff, but so has NF. Id say WoW, Eve etc had alot more impact then NF vs OF had. ToA made alot more ppl leave then NF did would be my guess.
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also diminitive siege shouldnt be in game as like this u can stack up to the ears a FG full of siege (i can carry one siege ram normal or 3 dimi) as its not realistic (its like Sport Billy's bag) try to get around 300++ kg on ur back
well keeps are pretty much ok as OF keeps was only able to be taken from door while in middleages most sieges was taking part with lots of siege hitting on walls etc (intuduction of siege towers would be nice or something like ladder...last one already given to heavy tanks but keeps would need some intoduction for more defence imo like throwing stones, exept balistas or some other goodies)
in case Mythik wants some ideas they can send me an email btw (i got loads)
well keeps are pretty much ok as OF keeps was only able to be taken from door while in middleages most sieges was taking part with lots of siege hitting on walls etc (intuduction of siege towers would be nice or something like ladder...last one already given to heavy tanks but keeps would need some intoduction for more defence imo like throwing stones, exept balistas or some other goodies)
in case Mythik wants some ideas they can send me an email btw (i got loads)
