News Germany - singing animals soon to be outlawed

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20523950

Great quote:

"We see animals as partners and not as a means of gratification. We don't force them to do anything. Animals are much easier to understand than women"

I may be a bit sheltered from all this but I thought animal shagging was outlawed everywhere on the grounds of just being plain wrong*.




*except Wales and NZ
 

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A fine of up to 25,000 euros (£20,000) is proposed if someone forces an animal to commit "actions alien to the species".
Damn. I guess shooting your silly string on a giraffe's nose just got expensive.
 

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I think you should be rewarded, not fined, if you can shoot it that high.
 

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The German parliament's agriculture committee is considering making it an offence not only to hurt an animal but also to force it into unnatural sex

It seems to me that it's not un-natural. If humans and animals are having sex, then they probably have been for hundreds of thousands of years.

It's definitely not to my taste - but if it floats your boat then I'm not going to speak out against you.

I've seen the odd bestiality vid in my time - women getting shagged by dogs and the like. It seems to me that if there's a woman bent over and a dog decides to shag her then it's hardly being "forced"...

Politicians sticking their noses in to enforce a christian morality tbfh.
 

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Scouse has clearly moved into full self-parody mode. The implosion is complete.
 

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Guess more Germans are gonna spend their holidays in Denmark where shagging animals is completely legal still. :)
 

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Bit difficult when the wife is in a cage in the hold.
 

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Blatant species-ism. PETA should be outraged I imagine.
 

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What's funny is that, with all the shit that's going on in the world and Germany itself, that it's even an issue on the agenda.

Excuse the pun, but who gives a fuck?
 

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What's funny is that, with all the shit that's going on in the world and Germany itself, that it's even an issue on the agenda.

Excuse the pun, but who gives a fuck?

Christian Democrats are an important part of the coalition that governs Germany - which Merkel is the head of - just saying...
 

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We will welcome the Germans here in Denmark, where it is still legal as long as the animal is not harmed in any way!

"Oh jah mein liebchen.. Kann you feelscht das?"

"moo" *








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Wazzerphuk said:
Scouse has clearly moved into full self-parody mode. The implosion is complete.

Seriously laughed out loud at this, and I agree.
 

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I was particularly amused by the fact he seems to think dogs go around fucking women if they happen to be in front of them.
 

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Wazzerphuk said:
I was particularly amused by the fact he seems to think dogs go around fucking women if they happen to be in front of them.

Aye....

Scouse I'm more interested in whether you think it is ok just because the bible says it is wrong. :p
 

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Scouse I'm more interested in whether you think it is ok just because the bible says it is wrong. :p

As I stated, I don't give a fuck really. Nothing to do with the bible at all.

If an animal isn't forced into it and comes to no harm then I don't give a shit what happens really. Certainly not enough to legislate.

As for Waz's comment - like I said - I've seen bestiality videos (like almost everyone) and I've seen dogs mount women without being pushed onto them or strapped there, women suck horses off without the horse using it's considerable strength to kill them - and I've groaned and laughed in disbelief like most other people.


However, Yoni, I notice you've not bothered to answer my question. Why is it wrong?

Why criminalise people when no harm is occuring?
 

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I think it crosses a moral line... Ie I will not criticise anyone's sexual activity as long as it is safe consensual and fun...... This fails two out of three.... Just like interfering with a child for example.... I do not even believe that underage kids indulging is right even if they believe it is what they want as there is peer pressure and persuasion usually involved.

I didn't respond as I was walking through a snow storm and nearly fell on my arse writing the couple of sentences I managed.
 

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Fair enough. But all you've done is confirm this:
Politicians sticking their noses in to enforce a christian morality tbfh.

I'd also take to task this:
I will not criticise anyone's sexual activity as long as it is safe consensual and fun...... This fails two out of three....

1. It's obviously "safe".
2. It's obviously consensual - unless the video's I've seen have invisible chains around the animals - which they don't.
3. As for "fun" - well, it's not my idea of it, but you presume that A) the people indulging enjoy it and B) the animals involved are getting off too - otherwise why would they continue to fuck until they come?


I think the real problem here is that many people who go "yuck" to things want to then ban them, rather than ignore them.
 

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Yes because someone just happens to be filming a women and a dog wanders in with an erection, that's a normal situation.

Or, like what really happens - someone either manually stimulates the dog (in this case) to extreme arousal, or they pair the dog with a female dog and separate them halfway through. They wind the dog up so much it acts purely on instinct.

If you genuinely think they just present a dog a woman and the dog makes a decision to fuck that woman, you are a total cretin. One probably born out of an ignorance, but it's astonishing you go around thinking like that.
 

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My response has nothing to so with anything godly or christian... It is my moral code Scouse and you completely piss me off when you align everyone's moral decisions with religion... Please stop it is very boring.
 

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It is my moral code Scouse and you completely piss me off when you align everyone's moral decisions with religion... Please stop it is very boring.

Erm - have you ever really looked at where morals come from? They largely are from religion...
 

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It is my moral code Scouse and you completely piss me off when you align everyone's moral decisions with religion...

By your own admission (I cba searching the threads) your morality is a christian one.

So, as much as it pisses you off, I'm not taking it back - because I think I'm correct in my assertion.
 

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Or, like what really happens - someone either manually stimulates the dog (in this case) to extreme arousal

As that would be bestiality - again - what's wrong with that?

Are you saying they die the dog up, muzzle it, then wank it until it "gives in" and decides it wants to fuck?

If the dog didn't like being wanked off it'd fucking bite you.
 

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Yes they do but some people not all will decide what is acceptable to them..... Homosexuality, bsdm, any of the varied fetishes out there that a deeply Christian person would not even consider existed let alone talk about or accept.

There are differences and there are people on this forum that just use the anti Christian, catholic, Muslim, yadda yadda argument constantly instead of reaching inside their heads to question themselves and their one track view on life.... So incredibly boring
 

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Scouse you can continue with you anti religious delusions forever, however for me if you sanction sex with animals on the basis that it doest do any harm them you sanction sex with any creature that can not speak for themselves including children.

Gym time
 

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If you genuinely think they just present a dog a woman and the dog makes a decision to fuck that woman, you are a total cretin. One probably born out of an ignorance, but it's astonishing you go around thinking like that.

I don't actually think you are right tbh - I have seen male dogs that tried to mount women/kids if they just happened to bend over. The classic comedy skit of a little dog frantically trying to hump your leg is drawn from reality.
 

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I've no problem with homosexuality, BDSM, giant anal fisting or bestiality on the grounds that it's doing nobody any harm.

There's also a move to outlaw Downs Syndrome porn - because people find it distasteful. But as far as I'm concerned Downs sufferers are as free to hold their sex life as they damn well please.

there are people on this forum that just use the anti Christian, catholic, Muslim, yadda yadda argument constantly instead of reaching inside their heads to question themselves and their one track view on life....

I was brought up with a christian morality - I'm a direct decendent of the founder of the Methodist church - and I "reached inside my head" and realised what I'd been taught was wrong.


So I have "decided what's acceptable to me" - and that includes having a pop at a standard christian morality - because it's wrong IMO.

Edit:
if you sanction sex with animals on the basis that it doest do any harm them you sanction sex with any creature that can not speak for themselves including children.

Oh. The "call scouse a paedophile then run to the gym" tactic?

Paedophilia does harm. Nice to see you keeping a sense of perspective tho :)
 

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There's a big difference between playful randiness and vaginal penetration, do you not think? They do it to men as well, clearly they MUST WANT TEH ANAL.
 

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