Politics General Election 2017

[Wij]

And there's more...


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I thought he was supposed to be the non-politician's politician

/edit: If anything he comes across as quite dim.

 

[Wij]

I mean he still thinks Fidel Castro was a caring socialist:

Yahoo is now part of Oath

 

[Scouse]

I mean he still thinks Fidel Castro was a caring socialist:

Yahoo is now part of Oath

Yahoo is now part of Oath? and I have to wade through settings before.....omgf who gives a shit.

People - can we stop linking twatter too please - it's as bad as facebook for being unable to read.

Proper internet, not closed-system victim-wank links or GTFO tbfh...

 

[Wij]

Yahoo is now part of Oath? and I have to wade through settings before.....omgf who gives a shit.

People - can we stop linking twatter too please - it's as bad as facebook for being unable to read.

Proper internet, not closed-system victim-wank links or GTFO tbfh...

Link describes how Castro was a billionaire.

 

[Scouse]

Link describes how Castro was a billionaire.

Meh. Just read it. Rumours about a dead guy.

President of Uraguay lives as a pauper tho

 

[Bodhi]

Old fashioned Internet link for our members who can't work Social Media.

UK reports biggest July budget surplus for 18 years

I especially note the record Corporation Tax receipts. Almost as if that Laffer bloke knew his onions.

 

[Job]

And lowest out of work...doesnt really mean jack shit,.but at least its there as a figure to make a mockery of project doom.

 

[Wij]

Old fashioned Internet link for our members who can't work Social Media.

UK reports biggest July budget surplus for 18 years

I especially note the record Corporation Tax receipts. Almost as if that Laffer bloke knew his onions.

Oh come on. It's July The deficit has been coming down for years so it's not exactly a surprise. The world economy is still v healthy.

I'd be more concerned that we are still around the bottom of the growth rates for EU and G7 instead of being near the top where we were a couple of years ago.

 

[Bodhi]

Oh come on. It's July The deficit has been coming down for years so it's not exactly a surprise. The world economy is still v healthy.

I'd be more concerned that we are still around the bottom of the growth rates for EU and G7 instead of being near the top where we were a couple of years ago.

You're concerned that we are in the middle of "Armageddon" and the economy is still growing and jobs are still being created?

Sounds fucking awesome to me tbh.

 

[Moriath]

Oh come on. It's July The deficit has been coming down for years so it's not exactly a surprise. The world economy is still v healthy.

I'd be more concerned that we are still around the bottom of the growth rates for EU and G7 instead of being near the top where we were a couple of years ago.

You cant have infinite growth in a closed finite environment. So growth is bad for the environment and a poor measure of success tbh.

 

[Scouse]

You're concerned that we are in the middle of "Armageddon" and the economy is still growing and jobs are still being created?

Armageddon hasn't started yet. We've still not brexited. Unless you hadn't noticed.

Plus - he bloody well should be bringing down borrowing - services have been decimated for the best part of a decade. And we're still in deficit - borrowing more than we earn. So whoop-de-do.

In the meantime, record employment but record low wages. Wow. We've never had it so, er, "meh".

 

[Wij]

You're concerned that we are in the middle of "Armageddon" and the economy is still growing and jobs are still being created?

Sounds fucking awesome to me tbh.

Who said Armageddon? Not me. I just expressed that when the world economy is doing really well the UK is doing less well. That's before we've left the EU.

 

[Gwadien]

The comparison will be to see where the EU is financially in the next 20 years and compare it to ourselves.

 

[Bodhi]

Armageddon hasn't started yet. We've still not brexited. Unless you hadn't noticed.

Plus - he bloody well should be bringing down borrowing - services have been decimated for the best part of a decade. And we're still in deficit - borrowing more than we earn. So whoop-de-do.

In the meantime, record employment but record low wages. Wow. We've never had it so, er, "meh".

Interesting definition of deficit. By interesting I mean wrong.

 

[Wij]

Interesting definition of deficit. By interesting I mean wrong.

I’m guessing he means annual rather than monthly.

 

[Scouse]

I’m guessing he means annual rather than monthly.

Yep. Not going to get excited over a single month. The UK deficit and net borrowing is WAY higher than under the last Labour government.

 

[Wij]

Yep. Not going to get excited over a single month. The UK deficit and net borrowing is WAY higher than under the last Labour government.

To be fair borrowing will be higher when you inherit a big defecit.

Defecit depends when you look. Tories inherited a huge defecit.

 

[Moriath]

Yep. Not going to get excited over a single month. The UK deficit and net borrowing is WAY higher than under the last Labour government.

How do you think it would be less? When they took it over the deficite was huge. Ofcourse its going to be bigger.

 

[dysfunction]

Austerity is fixing the deficit though....

 

[Scouse]

So, Labour appear to be the only government in ages to have run any kind of surplus. Then it went to proper tits at the financial crash - which some idiots around here still blame them for - despite the tories running a quite large deficit themselves.

 

[Bodhi]

Labour only ran a surplus as they carried on the Tory budget for their first term to prove they wouldn't be irresponsible - then in 2000 that was abandoned and Brown got the Credit Card out and went mental.

Did New Labour spend too much in government?

But then I don't blame Labour for the Global Financial Crash. What I do blame them for is further loosening regulations in the City in 2003 as Winky McFucknut was addicted to the tax revenue they brought in (pretty sure they'd already funded the bailouts in tax - even though the investment banks had very little to do with the crash in the UK), and not saving any money in times of plenty to put us in a better position to ride it out.

And abusing PFI.

And his Private Pensions raid.

 

[Bodhi]

Yep. Not going to get excited over a single month. The UK deficit and net borrowing is WAY higher than under the last Labour government.

The debt is way higher, as you would expect after 8 years of the massive deficit they inherited. The deficit has been reduced by over 2/3rds.

UK government debt and deficit - Office for National Statistics

Looks like there's some idiots round here who can't tell the difference between debt and deficit.

 

[Scouse]

Labour only ran a surplus as they carried on the Tory budget for their first term to prove they wouldn't be irresponsible - then in 2000 that was abandoned and Brown got the Credit Card out and went mental.

By "mental" you mean running a smaller relative deficit than the Tories ran?

The ons figures are right there in that graph. We don't need an opinion-piece from the Torygraph to give "unbiased" commentary on Labour spending.

Not that I'm a Labour fan - but I also don't see what the other stuff you're chucking in there (pensions etc) - has anything to do with deficit. Unless you're just venting anything you can in the face of the rather stark graphically-demonstrated evidence?

Looks like there's some idiots round here who can't tell the difference between debt and deficit.

Oh, I'm sorry. Was the graph I produced that shows the deficit since 1993 the wrong one?

What an idiot I am. Confusing the deficit with the, er, deficit eh?

 

[Scouse]

And further - your nonsense about Labour "being mental" is reminicient of your Sony fanboi-ism. You're incapable of looking at the facts because of some bizarre fetishisation of an S&M Thatcher and her party:


"Moderate" deficits were the rule in the mid-2000s Blair years.

Moderate. Unlike your opinions, which are anything but.

Edit: - on the above, Atlee and Wilson, both Labour prime ministers, no?

 

[Bodhi]

By "mental" you mean running a smaller relative deficit than the Tories ran?

The ons figures are right there in that graph. We don't need an opinion-piece from the Torygraph to give "unbiased" commentary on Labour spending.

Not that I'm a Labour fan - but I also don't see what the other stuff you're chucking in there (pensions etc) - has anything to do with deficit. Unless you're just venting anything you can in the face of the rather stark graphically-demonstrated evidence?


Oh, I'm sorry. Was the graph I produced that shows the deficit since 1993 the wrong one?

What an idiot I am. Confusing the deficit with the, er, deficit eh?

No. You said that the UK deficit is WAY higher than under the last Labour Government, yet if you bothered to read the ONS link, you'd see that in 2010 when Cameron and Osbourne took over it was around £140 billion, now it's down to £40 billion. Given how long term many of the spending commitments Brown signed us up for, to expect it to reduce back down to pre GFC levels is pure fantasy.

But then, you struggle to get info from Social Media, so I'm guess simple things like one number being higher than the other may be a bit beyond you. You'll catch up with 2018 eventually, dear.

 

[Scouse]

Cherry pick the exact dates if you like, the graph is up there...

You argue like this guy fights:


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[Wij]

Corbyn wins new friends:


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[Scouse]

Corbyn wins new friends

Again. In the context of his discussion, not antisemitic, and again, from fucking years ago.

It ain't going away - they've probably got a list of shit on him because he's active for palestine and anti-zionist - but it's fucking bullshit. It's the Israel lobby fucking over british politics because their racist country wants to run an apartheid state - and fuck Britain's interests - theirs comes first.

He just isn't antisemitic.

 

[Wij]

That really depends on how you define anti-semitism. It's enough for me to never want him to be PM:


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[fettoken]

Is being anti-semitic that bad though? I mean, everyone's up for scrutiny.