Politics General Election 2017

[Job]

Seriously, Fox hunting, fuel payments , pensions and inheritance.

You cannot look a that manifesto without concluding, utter incompetence and arrogance ..or some kind of nihilist suicide.
Corbyn just had to promise free this and that and the Tory majority was gone...I mean, they knew that surely.

 

[Ctuchik]

So that went well eh Britain?

 

[DaGaffer]

Seriously, Fox hunting, fuel payments , pensions and inheritance.

You cannot look a that manifesto without concluding, utter incompetence and arrogance ..or some kind of nihilist suicide.
Corbyn just had to promise free this and that and the Tory majority was gone...I mean, they knew that surely.

Politicians living in a bubble of their own prejudices shock. She looked at the Brexit voters, offered the blue rinse brigade more of the same, bit her on the arse. Don't ascribe to conspiracy what can be put down to incompetence and arrogance. While the Tories were promising to wind the clock back to 1956, a million 18-21 year olds registered to vote. That's been the real difference; the young have (finally) realised no-one's going to help them if they don't bother to participate in the process. Not blaming them, when I was 18 I didn't give much of a fuck either, but I think its only now that living in a shit world created by old people has really sunk in.

This is definitely good news for us over here. Hard Brexit is probably a non-starter now. Thank fuck.

 

[Yoni]

It's great news for immigrants both in the U.K. and Expats in EU countries.

 

[Scouse]

Corrected it for you... not sure her religion is relevant

I think it is. She's hard Christian which shows that despite evidence to the contrary she's happy to plough on with the same idea regardless.

If you do that in one very important area of your life it makes it much easier for you to act in that manner in other areas of your life.

But meh - I guess the important thing is that she's had many years of form of ignoring evidence and carrying on in blinkered fashion. I thought she was an awful home Secretary and massively feared the possibility that she may become PM - and she's exactly what I expected

 

[old.user4556]

Ok, so what's the predictions for what happens now?

 

[Zarjazz]

One of the greatest political fuck ups in history...

You mean more than that other snap election referendum by that other Tory leader who thought they'd easily win but then ran a god awful campaign?

 

[Embattle]

This is definitely good news for us over here. Hard Brexit is probably a non-starter now. Thank fuck.

I've said it before, it was never only the UK's choice whether it was going to be a soft or hard brexit and it still isn't.

 

[Job]

Shes dipped in with the DUP...which is a little concerning because their key demand is a slap in the face for Siin Feinn

 

[Ormorof]

But brexit will have no effect on NI right?

 

[Scouse]

I've said it before, it was never only the UK's choice whether it was going to be a soft or hard brexit and it still isn't.

It pretty much is for the most part. The EU would massively favour a smaller shift and now May's hard-brexit "mandate" has been thrown firmly out of the window then soft-brexit is on.

Hopefully preserving freedom of movement in all but name, the primacy of the ECHR and access to the single market.

Immigration concerns are clearly not primary for the UK - UKIP is dead dead dead and Labour strengthened it's showing on an immigration ticket of "maybe there'll be a little less, we'll have to see". And May did herself a lot of damage with her "tear up human rights" shite.

Turns out that Blighty never wanted hard Brexit (only the more rabid slaverers) and the EU will welcome that.

 

[Scouse]

 

[old.user4556]

LAUL NUTTALL

 

[BloodOmen]

She's staring down the barrel of a no confidence vote by her own party now for fucking up the election... and still she refuses to quit, what a massive shitbag she is.

 

[Yoni]

LAUL NUTTALL

Gosh yes that was very funny

 

[BloodOmen]

LAUL NUTTALL

Did you see Nick Cleggs face when he lost his seat? he looked like a puppy that has just been kicked.

 

[old.user4556]

May hoping for ‘constructive relationship’ with creationist homophobes who think Pope is Satan

 

[DaGaffer]

I've said it before, it was never only the UK's choice whether it was going to be a soft or hard brexit and it still isn't.

Accept the four freedoms and its all in the UK's hands. Always has been, and the EU would be more than happy to do a good deal, especially now.

 

[Embattle]

It pretty much is for the most part. The EU would massively favour a smaller shift and now May's hard-brexit "mandate" has been thrown firmly out of the window then soft-brexit is on.

Hopefully preserving freedom of movement in all but name, the primacy of the ECHR and access to the single market.

Immigration concerns are clearly not primary for the UK - UKIP is dead dead dead and Labour strengthened it's showing on an immigration ticket of "maybe there'll be a little less, we'll have to see". And May did herself a lot of damage with her "tear up human rights" shite.

Turns out that Blighty never wanted hard Brexit (only the more rabid slaverers) and the EU will welcome that.

I don't see how when there was already likely to be considerable disagreements in the parties, between the parties about brexit even when the conservatives had a majority. Now there is even greater chance nothing is agreed and we just fail to reach a deal before the time limit is reached.

 

[DaGaffer]

Accept the four freedoms and its all in the UK's hands. Always has been, and the EU would be more than happy to do a good deal, especially now.

@Embattle you can disagree all you like, but no one in the EU wants a hard Brexit. They pretty much universally think its the worst outcome, but can't budge on the four freedoms because of the risk to EU institutions. While May was being intransigent they had to take a hard line, that may no longer be the case. There is a pre-existing model that accepts the four freedoms (EFTA) and saves face, and work, for everybody.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Embattle]

You just don't get it, it isn't what they want but more than ever will be the result because of many factors on both sides of the channel.

 

[BloodOmen]

Labour did well mind, some pretty shock gains - I think Canterbury being the greatest, that's been Conservative held since 1918.

 

[Litmus]

How

It pretty much is for the most part. The EU would massively favour a smaller shift and now May's hard-brexit "mandate" has been thrown firmly out of the window then soft-brexit is on.

Hopefully preserving freedom of movement in all but name, the primacy of the ECHR and access to the single market.

Immigration concerns are clearly not primary for the UK - UKIP is dead dead dead and Labour strengthened it's showing on an immigration ticket of "maybe there'll be a little less, we'll have to see". And May did herself a lot of damage with her "tear up human rights" shite.

Turns out that Blighty never wanted hard Brexit (only the more rabid slaverers) and the EU will welcome that.

The result has opened up such a can I worms now. The doorway is now fully opened for everyman and his dog to have their opinion on which way brexit goes, which is obviously impossible and not workable, there will be many sqobles. I predict more referendums and elections in the near future now.

And of course immagration was a huge factor, and as far as I can see it still the main factor. If it does end up going soft then the whole thing has been a complete waste of time, might aswel of not bothered.

Worst possible outcome for me. Outside the eu and still have uncontrolled borders. Total waste of time.

 

[Job]

We nearly got him.

 

[Litmus]

And just to add.. I don't think the swing back to labour had much to do with people wanting a soft brexit. I think they more likely got sucked in by the free lunch being offered

 

[old.user4556]

And just to add.. I don't think the swing back to labour had much to do with people wanting a soft brexit. I think they more likely got sucked in by the free lunch being offered

Nothing to do with May making an utter cunt of it?

 

[Raven]

The swing was because May fucked it hard and Corbyn didn't go full retard, little to do with Brexit.

Anyway, the barrel is being scraped, Tory/DUP lol

 

[Yoni]

God Nicola Sturgeon can't accept she has done a very shite job.... I really can't stand her :/

 

[old.user4556]

God Nicola Sturgeon can't accept she has done a very shite job.... I really can't stand her :/

Her rhetoric this morning is infurating me, at least Swinney had the decency to admit that their "too soon" Indyref play attributed to their substantial loss. Even in SNP held seats, the Tories and Labour made massive strides. The only defence I can put forward of the SNP result was that the 2015 GE was an exceptionally high majority on the back of a Labour LOL - the only way was down for the SNP.

As a wider observation, has English (UKIP) and Scottish (SNP) nationalism been significantly dampened? I think so.