Politics General Election 2017

[Moriath]

Schiphol has gone from one of my favourite airports to one of the worst. Disorganised shithole these days.

It does have an irish bar in it tho. Not all bad

 

[old.user4556]

Irish bars, meh.

 

[old.user4556]

Roffles.

 

[Job]

Isnt in nice of them to all choose a colour..a bit like crisps.

 

[TdC]

As an aside @TdC - what the hell have the done to Schiphol? Passport control used to take 5 minutes, now it's more like 40.

I know, right? it's really shit. I used to be able to walk right through on a trip to blighty. Now even the biz trips take forever to get into the secure zone -.-

 

[Embattle]

Paul Mason comes across as a right cunt, plus some what deluded.

 

[Raven]

G'wan Diane, you bigoted fuckbag


View: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/may/05/diane-abbott-underestimates-labour-local-election-losses-video

This one is brilliant, claims the last time she looked it was 50, gets told it was 125 then claims the last time she looked it was 100. Golden

 

[Gumbo]

It's OK kids, if you vote Labour, she's your next Home Secretary. Of course Labour is a credible alternative.

 

[Ormorof]

How she stays in her job...

 

[caLLous]

Also, Labour wins huge majority in local elections after Diane Abbott counts the votes.

 

[Job]

This is what she looked like when she was going out with Corbyn.

 

[BloodOmen]

On topic, just found a brand new reason to vote Labour - best one yet I'd fucking say

 

[Embattle]

Sunday political interviews round-up: Emily Thornberry’s hair-raising election claims | Coffee House

Any one voting Conservatives because of Theresa May's hair?

 

[Job]

I do have a strange attraction to her hair and I dont understand why.

 

[Embattle]

General Election 2017: Tax policy expert on Labour's tax plans - BBC News

 

[fettoken]

So, I'm not completely up to date with UK dem-parties, but what I've noticed is the names of some of yours. For example: Conservatives, i imagine grumpy bastards such as @Jupitus cherishing and wanting to have it as it was in the good old days. Labour, just have to put some back into it. Lib dems, @Gwadien? UkIp, all we only hear about in Sweden.

 

[Raven]

So, I'm not completely up to date with UK dem-parties, but what I've noticed is the names of some of yours. For example: Conservatives, i imagine grumpy bastards such as @Jupitus cherishing and wanting to have it as it was in the good old days. Labour, just have to put some back into it. Lib dems, @Gwadien? UkIp, all we only hear about in Sweden.

Conservatives (cuntservatives) - Essentially evil. Led by a women who models herself on Thatcher yet has absolutely no idea what Thatcher actually stood for. They want to know what you are doing, when and how. They want to sell off as much as they can to their mates, don't worry because they will likely join one or the other, on silly money, after they leave politics as a consultant, An example. Other than that they believe in courts behind closed doors, arms sales to the Saudis, doing whatever Trump wants them to do.
Brexit will be a success, despite the Tories, not because of them. However, only realistic option at the moment, least shit.

Labour - Essentially morons. Led by a chap it would be nice to have a chat over a pint with. Rides a pushbike. They are funded by the unions, the unions decide who leads the party and who gets to enter the elections. It wasn't always like this but they actually voted to make it like that a few years ago. You too could help keep Corbyn in power for just £3.50 (or whatever it was) Previous to all that they led us into several illegal wars, lied to the UN, lied to the EU, lied to the UK and essentially helped create ISIS. They come out with some right classics and have already spent what they think they can make extra in tax, several times. When quizzed they have no idea and just make it up on the spot. They understand they have no chance and I don't think they actually care what they promise, any more.

Lib-Dems - duplicitous, noisy person at the back of the room. Led by a buffudled ultra-Christian who constantly refused to say being a gayer was not a sin. As far as he is concerned if you are gay, un-married and in a sexual relationship, swear, work on a Sunday or whatever, then you will essentially spend eternity in a lake of fire, looks like of those cameo muppets on the muppet show. To be fair to him, he does tend to vote pro-equal rights, which kind of makes him a hypocrite too, perfect Lib-Dem. The party itself will pin themselves to anyone if it looks like they might get a little bit of power. And indeed, they spent several years as the Tory whipping boy, backtracking on pretty much everything they stood for just to have a go at helping to rule, like a real boy! Useless, pointless party, never going anywhere.

UKIP - Pretty much confused racists who are a few steps behind the French, National Front in the absolute bastards league but essentially throw backs none-the-less. They are led by a guy who claimed to be at Hillsborough, or lost close friends there, or read about it in the paper, whatever day of the week it is. He has a voice like a dodgy fanbelt like anyone from in or near Liverpool and dresses like someone described "Country Gent" over the phone. UKIP themselves are done, they won't win any seats at the general election...they did alright as a protest vote last time round but as Brexit is on, they no longer serve a purpose.

Greens - Clue is in the name - Led by a pretty alright leader actually, barking mad but somehow likeable. They stand for a lot of good actually but very wishy washy on the details. Environment driven, equality and so on. They don't stand a chance really but will likely get a couple of seats. More than UKIP either way.

SNP - Nationalists from skirtland - Led by an angry small lady who lost a one off independence vote, a complete funsponge. They want another independence vote, despite agreeing the last one was a one off. Fair enough actually, obviously things have changed now, but their timing sucks. Want to vote on independence while the adults are dealing with Brexit. Might actually take a little beating off the Tories but not enough to matter. They could, technically become the opposition and possibly even form some sort of opposition coalition, unlikely with Labour but maybe the Lib-dems and some Welsh or Irish types.

Plus a bunch in Wales and Northern Ireland, but nobody really gives a fuck about them at the moment, NI might be interesting post Brexit though.

 

[Jupitus]

So, I'm not completely up to date with UK dem-parties, but what I've noticed is the names of some of yours. For example: Conservatives, i imagine grumpy bastards such as @Jupitus cherishing and wanting to have it as it was in the good old days. Labour, just have to put some back into it. Lib dems, @Gwadien? UkIp, all we only hear about in Sweden.

Probably about right

 

[Gwadien]

@fettoken -

I wrote out a huge guide for all the parties, then realised it was probably too opinionated

Actually, fuck it, I'll TL;DR it shortly.

 

[Job]

Conservatives (cuntservatives) - Essentially evil. Led by a women who models herself on Thatcher yet has absolutely no idea what Thatcher actually stood for. They want to know what you are doing, when and how. They want to sell off as much as they can to their mates, don't worry because they will likely join one or the other, on silly money, after they leave politics as a consultant, An example. Other than that they believe in courts behind closed doors, arms sales to the Saudis, doing whatever Trump wants them to do.
Brexit will be a success, despite the Tories, not because of them. However, only realistic option at the moment, least shit.

Labour - Essentially morons. Led by a chap it would be nice to have a chat over a pint with. Rides a pushbike. They are funded by the unions, the unions decide who leads the party and who gets to enter the elections. It wasn't always like this but they actually voted to make it like that a few years ago. You too could help keep Corbyn in power for just £3.50 (or whatever it was) Previous to all that they led us into several illegal wars, lied to the UN, lied to the EU, lied to the UK and essentially helped create ISIS. They come out with some right classics and have already spent what they think they can make extra in tax, several times. When quizzed they have no idea and just make it up on the spot. They understand they have no chance and I don't think they actually care what they promise, any more.

Lib-Dems - duplicitous, noisy person at the back of the room. Led by a buffudled ultra-Christian who constantly refused to say being a gayer was not a sin. As far as he is concerned if you are gay, un-married and in a sexual relationship, swear, work on a Sunday or whatever, then you will essentially spend eternity in a lake of fire, looks like of those cameo muppets on the muppet show. To be fair to him, he does tend to vote pro-equal rights, which kind of makes him a hypocrite too, perfect Lib-Dem. The party itself will pin themselves to anyone if it looks like they might get a little bit of power. And indeed, they spent several years as the Tory whipping boy, backtracking on pretty much everything they stood for just to have a go at helping to rule, like a real boy! Useless, pointless party, never going anywhere.

UKIP - Pretty much confused racists who are a few steps behind the French, National Front in the absolute bastards league but essentially throw backs none-the-less. They are led by a guy who claimed to be at Hillsborough, or lost close friends there, or read about it in the paper, whatever day of the week it is. He has a voice like a dodgy fanbelt like anyone from in or near Liverpool and dresses like someone described "Country Gent" over the phone. UKIP themselves are done, they won't win any seats at the general election...they did alright as a protest vote last time round but as Brexit is on, they no longer serve a purpose.

Greens - Clue is in the name - Led by a pretty alright leader actually, barking mad but somehow likeable. They stand for a lot of good actually but very wishy washy on the details. Environment driven, equality and so on. They don't stand a chance really but will likely get a couple of seats. More than UKIP either way.

SNP - Nationalists from skirtland - Led by an angry small lady who lost a one off independence vote, a complete funsponge. They want another independence vote, despite agreeing the last one was a one off. Fair enough actually, obviously things have changed now, but their timing sucks. Want to vote on independence while the adults are dealing with Brexit. Might actually take a little beating off the Tories but not enough to matter. They could, technically become the opposition and possibly even form some sort of opposition coalition, unlikely with Labour but maybe the Lib-dems and some Welsh or Irish types.

Plus a bunch in Wales and Northern Ireland, but nobody really gives a fuck about them at the moment, NI might be interesting post Brexit though.

So Monster Raving Looneys are the good guys then.

 

[Gwadien]

'safety nets' are the best way which I can describe political parties (I'm probably paraphrasing a historian here, but I found it quite useful.)

This is traditionally - not necessarily the modern take of the parties however at the core, they still stand for these values;

Tories - There is no safety net, the Tories maximise personal income for all (but the richer people naturally prosper more) this means that you get paid as much as possible, and you give to the government as little as possible.

Liberals (Or Lib Dems) - Bit different for these guys since the demise of the Liberal party during the early part of the 20th century. However, they believed in creating a safety net, but it's relatively low down - meaning that people would be in a shit state if they're reliant on the state, and the state would support them, coupled with 'self-help'

Labour - Safety net high up - People do not get into poverty, obviously this brings problems such as people being idle, and massive taxation as a result.

Today...

Tories - I'd personally argue they're still standing for very similar things, apart from parts such as the NHS, as one journalist described it - 'The NHS is a bigger national treasure than any living person or establishment' - so that's a massive no-go for them. (doesn't mean they can't sell off bits to their friends though!)

They are also doing an excellent job of converting voters from Labour -> UKIP -> Tories, due to banging to the tune of UKIP and promising stuff that they're not actually bothered about - moreover, they're probably not wanting to halt immigration, as it creates an underclass of people which the rest of society doesn't really care about and the Government doesn't have to pump lots of money into them. Sad, but true. I've seen this first hand.

Lib Dems - Yeah... These guys pretty much speak everyones minds, but we're deeply entrenched in a two party system in this country, which is pretty unfortunate, since these guys actually make quite a lot of sense. There's little point listening to the 'god bothering' stuff of their leader, his record aint bad.

However, after the coalition of 2010, the Lib Dems appeared to drop all of their values for the chance of power.

The funny thing is - most students complain about the Lib Dems about the tuition rises; however, in my point of view, I just find it laughable, since it actually makes very little economic sense, however, it does open the door for the Tories to keep raising the fees.

Labour - Going back to their roots.

Under probably the most popular Prime Minister in the last 50 years or so (whilst he was in power), they went a great deal more middle ground, they tried to do the same not under Blair, however the campaign was lackluster and the Tories managed to budge Labour out of the way, causing them to go more left wing.

In an alternate reality Corbyn would possibly perform relatively well in a GE, but due to the emphasis on immigration, the radical views are currently right wing, not left.
(see previous post about this)

The rest? - See Ravens post

 

[Job]

They all become exactly the same when voted in.
As soon as they give you the 'reigns' of the country, everyone just goes fuck and firefights their entire term

 

[Job]

Never heard of her and so typical BBC, good to see some old school social comment..we need a new generation of Paul Wellers, Alexi Sayles..etc...now the Tories are on the march.

Kate Tempest performs Tunnel Vision - BBC Newsnig…:
View: http://youtu.be/kMpVmXSSYzQ

 

[Raven]

Apt name for the song in today's political climate.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[BloodOmen]

Are they making a manifesto purely to make people hate them more?

Theresa May announces she plans to bring back fox hunting

 

[Tom]

I never had much of a problem with fox hunting, it doesn't seem to have that great an effect on the natural environment. It boils down to morality. I wouldn't do it, but then again I wouldn't slit a cow's throat and yet that happens all the time. I have much more of an issue with grouse shooting, which has a serious impact on diversity on northern moorlands. And grouse shooting is all about rich people blowing birds out of the sky, and rich people paying poor people to kill anything that might affect those grouse - including protected species like peregrine falcons.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dDrVoKeg2Q

 

[Raven]

Though i agree, nothing wrong with controlling foxes, its their method I have a problem with. The fact that they actually catch the fox first makes the whole thing a joke. If they need controlling then they should be shot, not chased down and mauled to death by hounds.

As for bird hunting, loads of people shoot pheasant round here, few of them rich, its actually one of the great levellers, rich and poor do it, not a mile from where I am sat.

As with pretty much anything though, cunts will ruin it for everyone then everyone will get punished.

Edit, we have stacks of birds of prey this year too, much more than last year.

 

[Scouse]

Yep. Woeful animal welfare from the Tories. Wouldn't dream of doing it if it wasn't going to be a landslide so they don't have to give a fuck.

They know the vast majority of the electorate don't want fox hunting and are being opportunistic. Just imagine what else they're going to fuck over :/

 

[Raven]

Turns out its old but raised a smile.


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