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Raven

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And I assume you have sources for this information, rather than random "facts" ?
 

Everz

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If you think the FM community give a shit about steam then you are sadly mistaken. The problem is how bug riddled the game is.
 

Wazzerphuk

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See my previous post about the petition that one of our FM forum users set up. No-one signed the bloody thing, so not as many people think it's a problem as you perceive it to be.

It's also absolutely hilarious that you are telling me to look at the figures when I see weekly updates of how the game is selling etc. You're talking like you know something based on nothing to someone who ACTUALLY knows it. Do you have any idea how silly that is?

Also the BGS/CM keeping code base point is completely moot because they never, ever had anything to do with it. WE made the code, CM kept the "look and feel" - they never had any input into it, so even if they carried on our code base, given the absolute atrocities they released of their own accord, chances are they would have ruined it anyway. They made a lot of very bad decisions, and were very flawed in their approach to coding it, but again these are things you know nothing about, or at least not enough to comment on them in the way you are.
 

Everz

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Jesus Wazz.. do SI seriously test this game anymore. The patch is huge and there is still no fix on the massive bugs, the game should have never been released in this state.

Oh btw, new bug made in that any files edited in the previous patch cause errors with international teams.

Fix your shit, so close to un-installing this and I haven't ever done that to an FM/CM game.
 

Wazzerphuk

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Don't forget, in FM world every bug is MASSIVE and makes the game UNPLAYABLE. ;) At least, that's the impression a lot of people like to give out.

In terms of bugs I really can't help if you're vague and anecdotal. If they've been raised on the forums I can assure you they are in our database and are under review. There are few companies with such a presence on the forums as us, we genuinely take it very seriously. Simply saying "fix your shit" doesn't help anyone, if they're known issues we're looking at them and if they're not then report them to us.
 

Everz

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what bugs are there? ive been mostly ok

Add/remove leagues = no cup fixtures loaded, so the FA cup/Copa del Rey etc etc don't work. To me the newgen rate is insane, with every nation loaded I can get 20-30 world class players in a season, insanity.

As it stands the new patch has ruined my Spanish League as noone gets called up to internationals from it.. fuck sake :|.
 

Keitanz

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See my previous post about the petition that one of our FM forum users set up. No-one signed the bloody thing, so not as many people think it's a problem as you perceive it to be.

It's also absolutely hilarious that you are telling me to look at the figures when I see weekly updates of how the game is selling etc. You're talking like you know something based on nothing to someone who ACTUALLY knows it. Do you have any idea how silly that is?

Also the BGS/CM keeping code base point is completely moot because they never, ever had anything to do with it. WE made the code, CM kept the "look and feel" - they never had any input into it, so even if they carried on our code base, given the absolute atrocities they released of their own accord, chances are they would have ruined it anyway. They made a lot of very bad decisions, and were very flawed in their approach to coding it, but again these are things you know nothing about, or at least not enough to comment on them in the way you are.
It's just based on really the amount of gamers I have met who hate Steam.. you'd be surprised how many hate it...
 

Aoami

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To me the newgen rate is insane, with every nation loaded I can get 20-30 world class players in a season, insanity..

Not noticed that myself, in fact, i've seen less good newgems than in recent years. Must be different from save to save.
 

Everz

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Not noticed that myself, in fact, i've seen less good newgems than in recent years. Must be different from save to save.

Really? On TD it comes to conclusion that the newgen rate is insane.

New patch has turned off the advanced panel, injuries have gone through the roof also. This new morale bollocks is a crock of shit, win a game 4-0 yet the morale goes down to very poor?
I am a fanboi with FM and am usually patient on everything but this version has got worse and worse. SI sort it out ffs :|.

Oh and my formation (as has a heap of peoples) has decided to change 3 times.. unplayable.
 

Keitanz

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Yeah it seems there are a shit ton of amazing newgens every season.
 

Everz

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I've never seen so many people quiting FM (at least on a popular board) in a long time. This patch really has fucked up a mass amount of things in peoples games, even the most rational heads have downed the game as this has been a travesty, alot of saves ruined. Good work SI yet a-fucking-gain.
 

Rubric

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i havemt played for a week as got Skyrim so dont know if there is a new patch, but i have to say, i got the game, no issues on instal and not seen a bug yet. Like the new interface accept having to click on attributes to find out what foot a player uses which i can live with. Overall a good job and every year the game seems to get released in a better state at launch not in the days they were tied in with the people who took the CM name who just made them rush it out in an infinished state. Good job done imo.
 

Aoami

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Really? On TD it comes to conclusion that the newgen rate is insane.

New patch has turned off the advanced panel, injuries have gone through the roof also. This new morale bollocks is a crock of shit, win a game 4-0 yet the morale goes down to very poor?
I am a fanboi with FM and am usually patient on everything but this version has got worse and worse. SI sort it out ffs :|.

Oh and my formation (as has a heap of peoples) has decided to change 3 times.. unplayable.

i musth ave shit scouts!
 

Everz

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Must do :p. As Arsenal first season I had 7 premiership standard players come through, including 2 wonderkids.
 

megadave

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8 first teamers injured a few squad members... for the rest of the season :p From top of the table to relegation in a couple of short months!
 

Killswitch

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I actually quite like Steam, perhaps I'm not right in the head! Anyway it installed fine, runs fine online and offline and I've not come across anything I'd call a "bug" yet, but the interface takes a bit of getting used to and the "tone" stuff seems like a bit of a gimmick. I'm only in my first season with Rochdale so far and my team is full of fail. To be honest, I've been crap at the last couple of these games, but I don't take the time to design the training and tactics properly, so it's likely my fault.
 

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I can't stand Steam, when i heard how FM12 was Steam only i never bought it ;/

I browse Steam now and then when i'm just looking for bargins but very rarely i find a bargin on there i can't get a physical copy for the same price else where.

When i'm away i don't always have access to the Internet so it's nice to play Football Manager as a time sink, but FM12 i can't do that :(
 

Aada

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Anyone got any tips for training schedules? Do you create individual schedules for each player or just schedules for CBs,FBs and put them into sections like that?
 

Wazzerphuk

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If I can be arsed to set them up I typically do

GKs
Defs
DMs
MCs
AMs
STs
 

Genedril

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Used to do it like Wazz but with FBs and wingers as well.
 

Raven

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I can't stand Steam, when i heard how FM12 was Steam only i never bought it ;/

I browse Steam now and then when i'm just looking for bargins but very rarely i find a bargin on there i can't get a physical copy for the same price else where.

When i'm away i don't always have access to the Internet so it's nice to play Football Manager as a time sink, but FM12 i can't do that :(

Why do you want a physical copy? Who cares about disk media these days? Download it and play in offline mode. Or if you are away from home on someone elses machine, download it on there on your account. If its a steamworks game you can even have your save games and settings saved in the cloud.
 

Aada

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Why do you want a physical copy? Who cares about disk media these days? Download it and play in offline mode. Or if you are away from home on someone elses machine, download it on there on your account. If its a steamworks game you can even have your save games and settings saved in the cloud.

What the fuck is it to you?

Eh?
 

Aada

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What the hell is it with this game and injury's? it's just totally unrealistic to have 4 players injured in one match, christ i have 10 players our injured it's pathetic.

Starting to remember why i haven't played FM in 2 years.
 

Raven

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You could check your play style and maybe training, if its too hard on the players they can get injured more often.

In saying that, sometimes it will randomly give you loads injuries but that can happen irl too.
 

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