Fix midgard thread!

[Karlo]

Originally posted by Acun
There is a few fg groups of albs that takes out most fgvsfg mids...yes even with the 3healer,shammie,skald,sav*3 setup...and 50aug bb standing tk....think its BF and FC groups or something...theyr damn hard to take out,and it comes to skillz when fighting them..its damn fun,,even to loose...as its fair fights.and adrenalin kick.

Even if savages or what ever class u think are a bit op....dont u take that as a challange for now?, you want easier fights?,its all about skillz...doesnt it feel good to win!..nerfing wont help alot of whiners here as they are truley loosers anyway...

The players with best skillz and tacticts win..even if its alb,hib or mid...thats a fact-.

yes it is, but why should mids have the upperhand on a number of things. Which I cant be bothered to go into here

 

[old.Zarko]

Originally posted by Pandemic
mmm why not remove the healer, shaman and savage classes from the game to make it a fair fight that way 2fg hibs vs 1fg mids the hibs will at least stand an even chance of winning

also not attacking me first with all ur tanks / casters and ignoring the support next to me could be a start

Give aimbot to this fella - surely want to play a game where skill has tertiary impact on output of a battle.

/Slap mids that can't see something is wrong.

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by Novamir
Savage
- cap savage evade at 50%
- fix tri / quad rates to their supposed values (10% less quads, and x% more tris)
- make hp be subtracted from total buffed hp and not base
- remove cheap tank RAs from this clearly hybrid class
- fix the ranged instant interrupt

Shaman
- disease needs immunity timer (affects all realms really, disease is one of the most effective forms of CC atm)
- raise recast on pbae instant disease to 1mins+
- make ichor and shammy ae root on same timer

Healer
- fix the ranged instant interrupt
- fix ability to get 2300+ hp on chain wearing main CC class with two instant heals (cant see how this can be fixed tho tbh)


let the whine begin!

Curious what you mean with "let the whine begin!"

You already started it.

 

[Karlo]

Originally posted by old.Lethul
make tripple wield use power and remove cheap RAs from blademasters. A "magical" sword is clearly magic

and your clearly not funny

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Acun
The players with best skillz and tacticts win..even if its alb,hib or mid...thats a fact-.

Ahh, yes, skillz. We all forgot that it was the Mid mad skillz who is making your realm uber and nothing else. Sorry about that.

 

[phule_gubben]

Re: Re: Re: Fix midgard thread!

Originally posted by Belomar
Hmm, seems I am getting through to someone. On the other hand, how dangerous is a 6x140 tick DoT when you have a proper healer with spreadheal in group?

It's friggin hard to cast cure poison when a friggin dot is ticking and interupts u for 5 times or something.

Shammiedot interupts u 1 or 2 times??

 

[old.anubis]

i bet 10 plat that after savage nerf (if it comes) peeps will find another mid class to whine about
already happened with zerkers
sad losers imo
only whine whine whine uke:

 

[old.anubis]

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Originally posted by phule_gubben
It's friggin hard to cast cure poison when a friggin dot is ticking and interupts u for 5 times or something.

Shammiedot interupts u 1 or 2 times??

all dots interrupt only on first tick

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by Gahldir
my guess is that evade + dodger is caped at 50% and they forgot to implent the evade buff in this. the amounts of slams in a row on savages are just insane.

oh, and why wouldn't they? it's Mythic after all.

No.

This has been tested extensively. Evade4/selfbuff/dodger are all subject to the 50% evade cap.

The only way a Savage can exceed the cap, and there are extensive reports and logs on the savage boards, is with Kelgors Claw. This gives a 10% boost for the next attack only.

 

[phule_gubben]

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Originally posted by old.anubis
all dots interrupt only on first tick

??

have u been dotted by a cabalist? or by Cerdin?

 

[old.anubis]

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Originally posted by phule_gubben
??

have u been dotted by a cabalist? or by Cerdin?

sure i was

 

[phule_gubben]

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Originally posted by old.anubis
sure i was

and u was interupted on first tick only?

 

[old.anubis]

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Originally posted by phule_gubben
and u was interupted on first tick only?

yes

but nobody prevents them from casting dot all over again, and interrupt you again

 

[Acun]

Originally posted by Belomar
Ahh, yes, skillz. We all forgot that it was the Mid mad skillz who is making your realm uber and nothing else. Sorry about that.

Yes m8..it takes some time to realize its nothing wrong with ur char its U thats the prob...you simply dont know how to play it....then at a point u thinking a skillz and tactics HAS something to do with this game and u learn.

 

[rure_]

Originally posted by Acun
Yes m8..it takes some time to realize its nothing wrong with ur char its U thats the prob...you simply dont know how to play it....then at a point u thinking a skillz and tactics HAS something to do with this game and u learn.

do you really think the game is perfectly balanced?

 

[phule_gubben]

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Originally posted by old.anubis
yes

but nobody prevents them from casting dot all over again, and interrupt you again

well from my own experience (shammie and Runie), after meeting Cerdin in several great and fun keepbattles, if i get dotted by him i must wait for cure poison or let it run out before i can begin casting me spells again. And that is after i've moved away to a nice and secure spot. So i wonder how u are being able to start casting after just 1 tick? Makes no sense really, u are the first one to say this aswell.

 

[exe]

Originally posted by rure_
do you really think the game is perfectly balanced?

Not perfectly(perfection is unreachable^^), but id say its ok balanced atm, except savages, those have to be toned down some(not nerfed to hell).

 

[Belomar]

My DoTs, no matter how uber, only interrupt for the first tick. I do tend to spam them when I can, however.

 

[Acun]

Originally posted by rure_
do you really think the game is perfectly balanced?

No but i know its balanced enough to make hibs,albs or mid win a fgvsfg in rvr depending on what u thinking in your head when u play.

 

[schinkaar]

yes but i know some spells (like SH) will still do a interrupted animation but be casted anyway if you get a dot tic during cast (first tic always interrupts tho).
this is probobly the case with your RM, and that is why you think you get interrupted phuule.

 

[old.Niljindil]

Originally posted by herjulf
Assasains evade 7
And will have to do alot to reach 50% cap, including buffs + dodger 2-3+


Savage Evade 3
Will not reach 50% evade not even with self buffs + best shammie buffs.
If they reach 30-35% it is a accomplishment.

That savages currently are bugged and have a far to high quadrupel rate etc, there is no denying.
But then again they have a very high missrate too, atleast PvE which is the only thing i can relate to atm with my puny lvl30 savage.

Savages have Evade 4 FYI, and the last evade buff equals 25% which is another 5 levels of evade.

So when self buffed savages have 2 levels higher evade than assassins(Evade IX) AND can do it in a 360 degree arc.

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by rure_
do you really think the game is perfectly balanced?

i think the game is balanced
apart from some minor things i can live with

 

[scrow2]

Originally posted by old.anubis
i think the game is balanced
apart from some minor things i can live with

perfect balanced game is impossible

 

[phule_gubben]

Originally posted by schinkaar
yes but i know some spells (like SH) will still do a interrupted animation but be casted anyway if you get a dot tic during cast (first tic always interrupts tho).
this is probobly the case with your RM, and that is why you think you get interrupted phuule.

How come when i try to cast Cure Poison on myself, i get interupted lots? I'm at a safe spot away from all aoe spells and such. How come i can't cast any spells then?

Plz explain that if u can.

 

[scrow2]

interrupt code is crap...nothing new for casters here


hope they change that soon, would be a good boost for the hibs

 

[tildson]

The qua/trio-rate was nerfed pretty much last patch

Remove Tank-RA's

Remove paladin/friar/savage-taunt to cause interupt

 

[Ghostly]

Originally posted by phule_gubben
How come when i try to cast Cure Poison on myself, i get interupted lots? I'm at a safe spot away from all aoe spells and such. How come i can't cast any spells then?

Plz explain that if u can.

Same things happens to me if I get DOTted by a shammie (for example), I know the first tick is supposed to interrupt, but when I use vanish to get away even the 2nd, 3rd or 4th (etc.) tick will cause me to unstealth again. I don't know if this is proof that it will interrupt casters or healers too, but its sure as hell not working as intended.

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Ghostly
Same things happens to me if I get DOTted by a shammie (for example), I know the first tick is supposed to interrupt, but when I use vanish to get away even the 2nd, 3rd or 4th (etc.) tick will cause me to unstealth again. I don't know if this is proof that it will interrupt casters or healers too, but its sure as hell not working as intended.

Um, of course it's working as intended. If you take damage, you are immediately put in combat mode, which means that you are unable to stealth (and will get popped out of stealth if you are in it). However, this is not the same as being interrupted -- this only (supposedly, and my empirical testing seems to support this) happens for the first tick.

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by old.Niljindil
Savages have Evade 4 FYI, and the last evade buff equals 25% which is another 5 levels of evade.

So when self buffed savages have 2 levels higher evade than assassins(Evade IX) AND can do it in a 360 degree arc.

2H savs often get the last buff but h2h don't unless they gimp WS.

Evade4 permanently + 21% for 30 secs + 10% from targets next attack = 41% from all and an additional 10% from the one you hit. (plus enhancers from external buffs that are avail to everyone)

Bottom line is that a buffed Savage doesn't need the last self-buff or Dodger to hit the cap for the 30sec fight duration.

Assasins however, get close to cap permanently, and with no penalty. Bit of a difference.

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by loxleyhood
Is savage evade really not capped at 50%? How can they make that mistake with assasins, fix it, then make it again?

so, novamir pukes out a number, and this is gospel for you?


have you seen any tests, numbers or anything to confirm this?

no, so stop jumping the fucking gun.




on a related note: palladins get a 40% bonus to blocking, nerf them FFS!!!11111111one