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[Laddey]

Alright lads long time no speak.

Winters coming and i intend on not doing much tbh... Other than playing some PC games as MMORPG's are pure ass on console.

I've got about 500-600 quid to spend on a basic, half decent computer... I want it to be able to run games such as elder scrolls online, WoW (maybe), Guild Wars 2 and maybe even a bit of cod but most definitely camelot unchained if it ever gets released.

I miss the pc days. I really do... Maybe I'm trying to relive my youth due to the fact I'm like 26 going on 40.

I used to have a basic idea on computers back in the day but i see these computers with 8 gb of ram lolz i remember having 128mb trying to play DAoC with chodax trying to help lower my fps so i can go on a relic raid.

Can you guys point me in the right direction? Much appreciated

 

[Laddey]

I can upgrade the graphics and ram at a later date i just require something to get me started.

I've just took a look on pcspecialist.co.uk. I could create my own spec on there for fairly cheap i guess unless you have any other suggestions

 

[ECA]

Scan today only page almost always has a solid start for a mid range pc, there's even one there today.

http://www.scan.co.uk/todayonly

You get case, motherboard, cpu, ram, power supply.

You'd just need a drive ( missed some great black friday deals ) - but there are some decent deals on that page as well ( pick any 120/240 gb ssd ).
Then just add a graphics card that fits your price range and bobs your fathers brother.

I'd recommend a gtx 970 or an R9 390, but that would put the build a little over your price range.

Although - I'm making the assumption you have a monitor/mouse/kb lying around there.

 

[Laddey]

I know i'll get called a cunt for going on currys or pc world but

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/comput...ist-vortex-impact-gaming-pc-10139147-pdt.html


The graphics card is dedicated which i guess is still a massive bonus rather than integrated? It has PCI & PCI express slots for i guess wireless card etc?

The psu Corsair VS350, 350 W - is it sufficient?

£499

 

[ECA]

Nope. That is bad.

 

[ECA]

Do you have _anything_ at the moment? mouse/kb/monitor?

If you need that as well, then you need to sacrifice on the build somewhat.

Also specifically what games do you have in mind?

 

[Laddey]

Nope. That is bad.

Roger...

• AMD A10 7700K Black, 3.8GHz Quad Core
• Asus A68AH-PLUS, AMD A68 Chipset
• 8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz
• AMD Radeon APU integrated R7 GPU
• 1TB Seagate 7200rpm HDD
• Microsoft Windows 10 64bit & 3 Year Premium Warranty

£501. That was just off spending 5 minutes on the website... Are integrated graphics still crap?

Cheers dude

 

[Laddey]

Do you have _anything_ at the moment? mouse/kb/monitor?

If you need that as well, then you need to sacrifice on the build somewhat.

Also specifically what games do you have in mind?

I have a 19 inch HP monitor at home, its a half decent one and it will do until i get paid.

mouse and keyboard will be easy enough to pick up.

Basically mate i just wanna play MMORPG's. Maybe the odd shooter like the new cod and possibly fallout. Everything i have on my ps4 but on the PC. I also want it for the usual movies, music, printing etc.

So..

WoW
Guild Wars 2
ESO
CoD
Fallout
Skyrim

 

[ECA]

I'd strongly recommend building it yourself.
You will save £100 at least on the component cost, and you can get a grey market copy of windows 10 for £15.

 

[TdC]

I've been told that AMD allows Crossfire over an APU and a GPU, so you could get a cheap and cheerful AMD GPU card to go with that and get a lot of bang for your buck.

Re a PSU, it's not all about the Watts. A PSU is most efficient loaded around 40-50% of it's rated power, so it's generally a good idea to size for that. I don't do that myself, but that's also because I'm a lazy fucker. My gaming PC pulls about 500W (SLI + OC'd CPU) out of the wall and I have a 750W PSU in it.

 

[Laddey]

I've been told that AMD allows Crossfire over an APU and a GPU, so you could get a cheap and cheerful AMD GPU card to go with that and get a lot of bang for your buck.

Re a PSU, it's not all about the Watts. A PSU is most efficient loaded around 40-50% of it's rated power, so it's generally a good idea to size for that. I don't do that myself, but that's also because I'm a lazy fucker. My gaming PC pulls about 500W (SLI + OC'd CPU) out of the wall and I have a 750W PSU in it.

Cheers lads...

TdC do you mean the spec from currys or the spec from scan?

 

[TdC]

Whichever one had the AMD A series CPU. Maybe both?

 

[Laddey]

Whichever one had the AMD A series CPU. Maybe both?

Ive had a look on the website but can't see anything...

Do they offer the crossover APU GPU for an R7?

 

[ECA]

Ok seeing as we need to drop the price range a bit.

Scroll down to deal 8 on the scan today only page I linked -

MixIt: Intel Pentium K G3258 Combo
Intel Pentium K G3258 Combo: CPU, Motherboard, Case + PSU

• 500W ThermalTake TR2 Challenger 80+ Certified with 120mm Quiet Fan Power Supply - Retail Boxed
• Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3, Intel Z97, S 1150, DDR3, SATA3 6Gbps, 2-Way CrossFire, Realtek LAN, USB 3.0, ATX Motherboard
• Intel Pentium K G3258, LGA 1150, Haswell, Dual Core, 3.2GHz Clock, 1100MHz GPU, 32x Ratio, CPU, Retail
• NZXT Source 220 Black Mid Tower Case with Side Window & 2x120mm Quiet Clear Blue LED Fans w/o PSU EXCLUSIVE

All that for £168.

You then need to add some ram ( ddr3 ), hdd and a graphics card.


http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-...800-(1600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-9-9-24-xm

Ram - £33.30
SSD - £58.20
240GB Kingston SSDNow V300, 2.5" SATA III 6GB/S SSD, MLC-Flash, Read 450MB/s, Write 450MB/s, 85000 IOPS
FROM THE TODAY ONLY PAGE.


So we're up to £259.5

Graphics card - the biggest spunk on this build.
£250.79 on the today only page
4GB EVGA GTX 970 SC GAMING ACX 2.0, PCIe 3.0, 7010MHz GDDR5, GPU 1165MHz, Boost 1317MHz, Cores 1664, DP/HDMI/DVI-D/DVI-I

Sick ass rig for £510.

 

[Laddey]

Ok seeing as we need to drop the price range a bit.

Scroll down to deal 8 on the scan today only page I linked -

MixIt: Intel Pentium K G3258 Combo
Intel Pentium K G3258 Combo: CPU, Motherboard, Case + PSU

• 500W ThermalTake TR2 Challenger 80+ Certified with 120mm Quiet Fan Power Supply - Retail Boxed
• Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3, Intel Z97, S 1150, DDR3, SATA3 6Gbps, 2-Way CrossFire, Realtek LAN, USB 3.0, ATX Motherboard
• Intel Pentium K G3258, LGA 1150, Haswell, Dual Core, 3.2GHz Clock, 1100MHz GPU, 32x Ratio, CPU, Retail
• NZXT Source 220 Black Mid Tower Case with Side Window & 2x120mm Quiet Clear Blue LED Fans w/o PSU EXCLUSIVE

All that for £168.

You then need to add some ram ( ddr3 ), hdd and a graphics card.


http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-...800-(1600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-9-9-24-xm

Ram - £33.30
SSD - £58.20
240GB Kingston SSDNow V300, 2.5" SATA III 6GB/S SSD, MLC-Flash, Read 450MB/s, Write 450MB/s, 85000 IOPS
FROM THE TODAY ONLY PAGE.


So we're up to £259.5

Graphics card - the biggest spunk on this build.
£250.79 on the today only page
4GB EVGA GTX 970 SC GAMING ACX 2.0, PCIe 3.0, 7010MHz GDDR5, GPU 1165MHz, Boost 1317MHz, Cores 1664, DP/HDMI/DVI-D/DVI-I

Sick ass rig for £510.

Haha cheers mate... I see what you mean...


The link to the graphics card isn't working... Any other suggestions?

 

[ECA]

Add to cart from the today only page or you won't get that price ( ssd/gpu ).

Heh you're right - page isn't there, weird. Even if you click from the today only page .

Add to cart works fine though

 

[Laddey]

Add to cart from the today only page or you won't get that price ( ssd/gpu ).

Heh you're right - page isn't there, weird. Even if you click from the today only page .

Add to cart works fine though

I've got it all in my basket now ready to go...

Can you suggest a half decent monitor whilst we're at it?


Cheers dude

 

[ECA]

https://www.dabs.com/products/views...mi-ips-led-monitor-vx2363smhl-BDP8.html?src=2

£99 for an IPS monitor. Solid deal.

 

[ECA]

Your main issue then is getting a copy of windows.

Cheapest way: http://www.kinguin.net/product/107865/windows-7-professional-oem-key-sp1/

Buy from the £5.79 dude, it'll upgrade to a windows 10 license - but you'll need to install windows 10 - skip activation, upgrade it to the latest update, then it'll activate using that key.

You'll need to download it onto a usb pendrive from MS - download the creation tool here.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

 

[Laddey]

Your main issue then is getting a copy of windows.

Cheapest way: http://www.kinguin.net/product/107865/windows-7-professional-oem-key-sp1/

Buy from the £5.79 dude, it'll upgrade to a windows 10 license - but you'll need to install windows 10 - skip activation, upgrade it to the latest update, then it'll activate using that key.

You'll need to download it onto a usb pendrive from MS - download the creation tool here.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

Thanks for your time today mate… I'll be in touch probably on Tuesday if I have any questions!

 

[Laddey]

Your main issue then is getting a copy of windows.

Cheapest way: http://www.kinguin.net/product/107865/windows-7-professional-oem-key-sp1/

Buy from the £5.79 dude, it'll upgrade to a windows 10 license - but you'll need to install windows 10 - skip activation, upgrade it to the latest update, then it'll activate using that key.

You'll need to download it onto a usb pendrive from MS - download the creation tool here.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10

Hi mate...

Would it be advisable to drop the graphics a bit and stick another stick of ram 8gb ram in? If you was to drop the graphics at all, what would you drop it to?

Thanks again

 

[TdC]

nah chumlar, 8GB is plenty for those games you have in mind and will be fine for all sorts. you'll notice a *much* better return putting that cash into a better gfx card than 16GB of ram. also, memory is comparatively cheap and easy to do, so if you ever end up needing more you can do it whenever you want.

 

[Moriath]

Hi mate...

Would it be advisable to drop the graphics a bit and stick another stick of ram 8gb ram in? If you was to drop the graphics at all, what would you drop it to?

Thanks again

8gb should be plenty

 

[ECA]

You really don't need over 8gb for gaming.

 

[Gwadien]

Need not 8gb over gaming for.

 

[Moriath]

You really don't need over 8gb for gaming.

Sure i said that a good kany hours before you

 

[Raven]

8 gig is fine for gaming.

 

[Gwadien]

8 gig is fine for gaming.

No it's not.

12 gig all the way, you get 2x 8gigs and snap one in half.

 

[Laddey]

No it's not.

12 gig all the way, you get 2x 8gigs and snap one in half.

If i snap it a bit too much will it mean i have 11.5gb?

 

[Gwadien]

If i snap it a bit too much will it mean i have 11.5gb?

Yeah man, some people have done that, and they've reported amazing results.

PS.

I just choked on my tea and spat it through my nose.