FAO Agrols

[deathbystealth]

hi m8 god u r hard to beat 3 duels with u and u won everytime.
if u dont mind letting ppl know m8 what is your spec pls r u crit spec and how much str do u have when buffed.
also what speed r your weapons as i need to change mine for some faster ones i like to 1 shot PA ppl but weapons r bit slow for duels thks.

 

[Mevos]

hi m8 god u r hard to beat 3 duels with u and u won everytime.
if u dont mind letting ppl know m8 what is your spec pls r u crit spec and how much str do u have when buffed.
also what speed r your weapons as i need to change mine for some faster ones i like to 1 shot PA ppl but weapons r bit slow for duels thks.

Thanks
Atm im specced 21 CS, 19 stealth, 17 Envenom. 12 pierce and 3 CD.

Since I'm using pierce my dmg is based on str/dex, I have 190 str and 215 dex fully buffed. My weapons have 3.3 speed.

 

[deathbystealth]

Thats great thks for info yeh your weapons r a little faster than mine well my main hand anyways and i have 201 str when buffed as im slash so only just a bit lower than your combined str/dex.
could do with bit more str cap in temp and maybe some combat speed % would help.
Not had much trouble with many assisans so far there r a few that r hard to beat but i have beaten them 50/50 but dont think i would beat u 1 on 1 with me temp as it is.
Do u have any bonuses in temp pls m8 like combat speed or af bonus and what caps do u have i see if i can make me temp a little better thks again for info is a big help.
BTW my spec 21+5 crit 18+5 stealth 18+5 slash 10+5 dw 13+4 env.

 

[Skidlee]

if you want to beat him, you need what he has.. ws/con debuff.. you will be pissing in the wind without...

20 stealth 15 slash 17 env 21 CS..

lvl40 auralite clock and 2 bracers with +con cap.. mordoms heart +20hp

so thats 40hp and 8 con caps, you could find rogs with +con on them to bring it upto 13.

make sure you have spare weapons to poison again or just switch out when ever.. it will increase your DPS.. heal pots and end pots would be handy aswell..

thrust also has a 6 sec stun off an evade, not tried since being back in alb so cant say for sure..

if you want to be stronger against NS thrust is for you.. if you want SB's slash is the way.

NS = neutral - thrust / resistant - slash
SB = resistant - thrust / weak - slash

this games all about who has biggest numbers right now his is bigger than yours thats all.. oh yeah and running through when losing

failing that make a necro, full buff and watch him die

Dirtynecro
Dirtyshade
Dirtyslash

 

[Mevos]

if you want to beat him, you need what he has.. ws/con debuff.. you will be pissing in the wind without...

20 stealth 15 slash 17 env 21 CS..

lvl40 auralite clock and 2 bracers with +con cap.. mordoms heart +20hp

so thats 40hp and 8 con caps, you could find rogs with +con on them to bring it upto 13.

make sure you have spare weapons to poison again or just switch out when ever.. it will increase your DPS.. heal pots and end pots would be handy aswell..

thrust also has a 6 sec stun off an evade, not tried since being back in alb so cant say for sure..

if you want to be stronger against NS thrust is for you.. if you want SB's slash is the way.

NS = neutral - thrust / resistant - slash
SB = resistant - thrust / weak - slash

this games all about who has biggest numbers right now his is bigger than yours thats all.. oh yeah and running through when losing

failing that make a necro, full buff and watch him die

Dirtynecro
Dirtyshade
Dirtyslash

I thought necro pet despawned if they ran to far from their master. Yet u can chase me half way around the bg, even tho I use end pots to escape u

Edit: stop adding on me and chasing me all the time!

 

[Skidlee]

I thought necro pet despawned if they ran to far from their master. Yet u can chase me half way around the bg, even tho I use end pots to escape u

Edit: stop adding on me and chasing me all the time!

lol no you wont attack me, ill be damned if i will let you kill everyone around me

 

[deathbystealth]

yeh thks but the post wasnt meant to be about beating agrols it was more about how he specced and his temp.
I have mordoms cloak / heart and the lvl 40 spellbound rings and bracers in my temp already so my con is capped thats why i was wondering how he beat me 3 times (the 3rd time he still had about 30 to 40 % health left) as i dont normally lose by much maybe 10 to 15 % health against other assasins.
But i can see now that he uses the lvl 22 str/con debuff which makes all the diff and as im slash i do better against SBs i was curious on his spec and temp as he is hardest assasin i have thought in thid so far.

 

[Reformed]

One tough ns for sure. I could see that from the film he made. Unusual to see someone swapping weapons in Thid to reapply poison. I still think he would find my sbs a tough challenge though. It took me ages to work out how to take out slash infs. There was a time when they were practically unkillable by sbs. Then I experimented with different specs to eventually settle for full axe and 25 poison (and run-through). To take out someone like Agrols (and them slash infs) you have to 'turn the tide' on him and use his own tactics. For one thing he don't have many hits - or wouldn't normally but with TOA and buffing? - not sure. So to apply 22 con debuff to him will hurt him a lot. Then high poison will dig into his hits fast and with sbs the pillager axe move slows him which helps immensely to negate that haste buff. Does an alb have any such move? After this I would run-through like holy hell and swap weapons each time. By the end of the fight he would have been hit with 5-6 fresh poison weapons and felt the full force of plunderer and a 2 handed axe. Also a heal pot would be needed for sure. Enough to bring down practically anything but lady luck would have to play a large part. Unbuffed and no toa? NS is a pretty weak opponent to be honest. Still I think Agrols ain't far off one of the best assassins I have seen for some time in Thid. Only because he fights a lot like I used to .

 

[Mevos]

One tough ns for sure. I could see that from the film he made. Unusual to see someone swapping weapons in Thid to reapply poison. I still think he would find my sbs a tough challenge though. It took me ages to work out how to take out slash infs. There was a time when they were practically unkillable by sbs. Then I experimented with different specs to eventually settle for full axe and 25 poison (and run-through). To take out someone like Agrols (and them slash infs) you have to 'turn the tide' on him and use his own tactics. For one thing he don't have many hits - or wouldn't normally but with TOA and buffing? - not sure. So to apply 22 con debuff to him will hurt him a lot. Then high poison will dig into his hits fast and with sbs the pillager axe move slows him which helps immensely to negate that haste buff. Does an alb have any such move? After this I would run-through like holy hell and swap weapons each time. By the end of the fight he would have been hit with 5-6 fresh poison weapons and felt the full force of plunderer and a 2 handed axe. Also a heal pot would be needed for sure. Enough to bring down practically anything but lady luck would have to play a large part. Unbuffed and no toa? NS is a pretty weak opponent to be honest. Still I think Agrols ain't far off one of the best assassins I have seen for some time in Thid. Only because he fights a lot like I used to .

You seeme to think that healpot = Iwin, but that is nowhere near the case. Since I use disease on my main weapon your healpot will give you back roughly 50-60 hit point, which i beat out of you faster then u can take down your weapons and use the pot. Only time it is worth to use pots is just after a fight to keep poisions from killing you or use end pots when you fight multible target in a row.
I really think you should come back to cluster and prove to me just how über your sb is, ill even drop my buffs for you.
And I do not fight like you did, I dont use pots by the bucket load and walkthrough just to keep the enemie from hitting me. Only time I walkthrough is when i get adds to keep them from hitting me so I can atleast kill my original target before I go down.

 

[Mevos]

lol no you wont attack me, ill be damned if i will let you kill everyone around me

I did attack you. (nvm that I just wanted a fast way back to htk) and left you on, what was it 80-90% before I died? I just dont think that there is much point in jumping you when i know the outcome. And are you really that rp horny so u feel you have to chase me halfway across the map just to kill me? Next time I see you in thid I think I'll log on my OP bonedancer and return the favor. I really dont like my BD, hes just boring as hell, but if thats what I have to do to keep you away from me thats what I will do. If you had popped me urself I wouldnt have any problems, but you keep adding time after time after time, and it gets very tiresom after a while. (and no, I dont whine, just stating fact.(and yes, 'someone got owned'))

 

[Skidlee]

lol i dont mind m8 bring your BD its fine


Edit: you are having a laugh you run through whenever you are having a problem with a target nevermind the whole adds crap, you posted a video proving the fact.. you are just a little wanna be luri who wins by what ever is needed, hey nothing wrong with that. dont think you are something your not, a nice player.

woooo people think your great.. nothing special move along..

 

[Toxic]

And I do not fight like you did, I dont use pots by the bucket load and walkthrough just to keep the enemie from hitting me. Only time I walkthrough is when i get adds to keep them from hitting me so I can atleast kill my original target before I go down.

Thats not entirely true, every time I've fought you you have used runthrough and tend not to stand still even when theres just me and you around.

If you watch the video again you will see what I'm talking about in our 1st fight you dont use run through as much (the one I win) and in the next 1 you run through several times (the one you win).

Fair enough you dont rely heavily on pots ill agree with that but as for run through ...you do.

 

[Sean]

still one of the only stealthers in thid who cant nail my sorc when sat down lol

and you have to strafe to win, so you have much skillz like the thid 'kings' LOL uke:

 

[Bondoila]

I can see now that he uses the lvl 22 str/con debuff which makes all the diff and as im slash i do better against SBs i was curious on his spec and temp as he is hardest assasin i have thought in thid so far.

The venom is what makes all diff, and it's an weponskill debuff now(no diff for either pierc or slash). As an infi I would probably also go even higher in venom for the higher dot and simply reaply all the time.
*21cs, 20ven,18stealth,4dw,14thrust
or
*21cs,17ven,19stealth,9dw,14thrust

 

[Skidlee]

quick message for Bondila, you should get 15 thrust beartooth is a 6 sec stun off an evade you should get it 20 stealth is nice to fall from towers other assasains will 20% damage you take 3% everylittle helps

just a suggestion

off to work have fun all

DirtyNecro

 

[Bondoila]

quick message for Bondila, you should get 15 thrust beartooth is a 6 sec stun off an evade you should get it 20 stealth is nice to fall from towers other assasains will 20% damage you take 3% everylittle helps

Pretty op, thought that was only after block but guess they changed it to evade.

Then I would pick:
21cs,19sth,thrust:15,17venom,7dw.....

 

[Mevos]

lol i dont mind m8 bring your BD its fine


Edit: you are having a laugh you run through whenever you are having a problem with a target nevermind the whole adds crap, you posted a video proving the fact.. you are just a little wanna be luri who wins by what ever is needed, hey nothing wrong with that. dont think you are something your not, a nice player.

woooo people think your great.. nothing special move along..

I have had a look on my movie, and I do use runthrough more then I thought. I will try and better myself at that point. But I would love to see a single screnshot/fraps with me adding! (not zerg related ofc)
And I have never claimed to be a great player, hell I have never even claimed to be a good player. I just play the game as good as I can and try to have fun doing it. But I AM a nice player, however I am only human, and I have bad days like the rest of you where I dont play as fair/juste (sp?) as I would have otherwise. But most of the time I play with a good attitude.

Thats not entirely true, every time I've fought you you have used runthrough and tend not to stand still even when theres just me and you around.

If you watch the video again you will see what I'm talking about in our 1st fight you dont use run through as much (the one I win) and in the next 1 you run through several times (the one you win).

Fair enough you dont rely heavily on pots ill agree with that but as for run through ...you do.

Yes, I have realised that now, and I will, as I said, try to do better on that front from now on.

still one of the only stealthers in thid who cant nail my sorc when sat down lol

and you have to strafe to win, so you have much skillz like the thid 'kings' LOL uke:

I cant remember if you just stood up or if a BT toke my PA, i might even have missed it. But I did not land my PA on you whilst you were sitting. And FYI I never ever strafe, walkthrough, yes, more then I thought I did, but never strafe so get a clue.

 

[Outlander]

I keep looking for you to fight you with my infil but never find you

 

[Sean]

I have had a look on my movie, and I do use runthrough more then I thought. I will try and better myself at that point. But I would love to see a single screnshot/fraps with me adding! (not zerg related ofc)
And I have never claimed to be a great player, hell I have never even claimed to be a good player. I just play the game as good as I can and try to have fun doing it. But I AM a nice player, however I am only human, and I have bad days like the rest of you where I dont play as fair/juste (sp?) as I would have otherwise. But most of the time I play with a good attitude.



Yes, I have realised that now, and I will, as I said, try to do better on that front from now on.



I cant remember if you just stood up or if a BT toke my PA, i might even have missed it. But I did not land my PA on you whilst you were sitting. And FYI I never ever strafe, walkthrough, yes, more then I thought I did, but never strafe so get a clue.

how can BT stop a pa lol get a clue

 

[Mevos]

how can BT stop a pa lol get a clue

Beats me, but it has happend.

 

[Toxic]

ok wtf... im 19+5 stealth mos2 and im standing still yet you get the pop even tho your moving how does that work?? its not just that time its every time you get the pop on me 1st and i barely even see you really i cant understand it at all

 

[Mevos]

ok wtf... im 19+5 stealth mos2 and im standing still yet you get the pop even tho your moving how does that work??

Hell if I know, better reflexes? Seriusly, dont you see stealthers better when they are standing still?

 

[Sean]

Hell if I know, better reflexes? Seriusly, dont you see stealthers better when they are standing still?

yer ya do, but toxic said every time, and i doubt everytime he is stood still

 

[Toxic]

Hell if I know, better reflexes? Seriusly, dont you see stealthers better when they are standing still?

exactly i had been standing still for at least 1min but you just ran straight up to me, and pop me you didnt even run past me or anything... i should have had the advantage as i was standing still and you were moving seems not tho if you can run straight up to me and hit me.

 

[Mevos]

exactly i had been standing still for at least 1min but you just ran straight up to me, and pop me you didnt even run past me or anything... i should have had the advantage as i was standing still and you were moving seems not tho if you can run straight up to me and hit me.

I did fraps that fight, I'll put it up on my FTP so u can download it if you want to. You will see I did not just run up to you.

Edit: forgot to put a link in, here it is: ftp://mevo.no-ip.org/Toxicblade_Ods_bridge.zip

Edit2: I dont have fraps running all the time, I start it when I see an enemie I intend to fight, so it starts just before i hit Toxic. But if you look closely you will see I am going by until I see him.

 

[Mevos]

I have compressed it a bit since the first one was 369MB. This one is just about 8MB. I have also the right name on this one But you cant see as good on this one, the first half second got lost in the compression.

ftp://mevo.no-ip.org/Toxicsb_Ods_Bridge.zip