EVE Online: Apocrypha

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EVE Online: Apocrypha is the most ambitious EVE expansion in the game's over five year history and it coincides with the March 10th, 2009 release of EVE Online as a boxed product through a partnership with Atari.

The fabric of space itself will be transformed as vast, unpredictable wormholes open to connect previously unexplored regions of the universe to the stars of New Eden. The seeds of advanced new technology await inside of these cosmic anomalies for those brave enough to explore them. This infusion of technology will enable production of the most dynamic vessels ever – Tech 3 modular ships with an astounding amount of customizability that can fill any role from skirmish muscle to industrial support.

Furthermore, NPC agents in EVE Online: Apocrypha will be authorized to assign Epic Mission Arcs to the pilots of New Eden. These branching, far-reaching mission strings are full of meaningful stories and more intelligent and deadly adversaries.

In addition, we are offering an entirely reworked New Player Experience for those joining (or rejoining) the game – giving them better insight into how to thrive in a truly limitless universe. We’ve already launched EVElopedia—a great repository for information on all things EVE where our players are also building their own living history of the previous five years of Alliance warfare, political intrigue and nostalgic recollection






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will wait and see what it brings. I am not convinced eve has much more to offer me at the moment so this might help get me back - I doubt it though.
 

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Eve is one of those games that I really want to like and play but have so far not been able to get past the first few hours, I bought it via steam some months ago on a whim (I think it was on sale) I have a well deserved week off soon so I will probably set aside a day to try and get into it, though I am not keen on the pvp aspect, more the exploration/trading/mining. Is it full pvp or does it use a pvp flagging system like other games?
 

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Eve is one of those games that I really want to like and play but have so far not been able to get past the first few hours, I bought it via steam some months ago on a whim (I think it was on sale) I have a well deserved week off soon so I will probably set aside a day to try and get into it, though I am not keen on the pvp aspect, more the exploration/trading/mining. Is it full pvp or does it use a pvp flagging system like other games?

Its an open game. You can be shot anywhere but the degree of the response from empire forces depends on the security level of the systems you are aggressed in.

If you are shot at in high security space (0.5-1.0) concord will kill anything that agresses you guranteed. You can still lose your ship especially if it is worth killing. Suicide ganking still happens - my brother lost over 1billion in rigs when someone suicided on him last year. He was travelling afk (silly boy).

The game works in grades of security in 0.4 systems and below people can shoot you but Concord will not 'spawn' and attack them. Instead if they are at a gate the gate sentry guns will shoot them. These guns can be easily tanked so a lot of pirates operate in low security space.

Space with no security is called 0.0 space. Anything goes here including large ships that can hit an 'i-win' button. When those ships come in twos they can kill all battleships in the same location as themselves....

Eve beats all other MMO's hands down for depth. It has a great background and the economy is a very nice simulation - it has a lot more going for it in this respect than any other game I know. The pvp is really good when people actually want to PvP but for the most part people hide, run and play as lamely as they can. That is sad because it is a very nice game.

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Eve is one of those games that I really want to like and play but have so far not been able to get past the first few hours, I bought it via steam some months ago on a whim (I think it was on sale) I have a well deserved week off soon so I will probably set aside a day to try and get into it, though I am not keen on the pvp aspect, more the exploration/trading/mining. Is it full pvp or does it use a pvp flagging system like other games?

Its an incredibly complicated game in total - I have only played it for about a year on and off and am far from expert but I do know a bit about mining/industry/trading/exploration if you want any help? Send an ingame mail to kalinara and I'll try and help you out :)

As long as you stay in 0.5 - 1.0 security areas you are relatively safe from other players - people tend to only suicide attack things like industrials as they are slow/weak and can contain good loot in their wrecks which they then respawn n steal.

The NPC pirates get tougher the further you go down from 1.0 so if you go mining best to start in 0.9 or 1.0 until you get some drone skills and a ship capable of fielding drones. Dont go afk whilst mining as you may well be destroyed by npc's even in 0.9.

Mining/trading are the best things to do out of your list when you start out as they can be done cheaply to begin with.

Exploration requires some quite expensive skills and specialist equipment so is something to build up to - will also need to train up for a few weeks to get the starting skills for it.

Finally Industry, tho you can start out relatively cheaply by buying ammo blueprints or blueprint copies and mining up the materials needed then selling em wherever ammos scarce its still in general pretty expensive - best to get some cash raising schemes working before this really.
 

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Eve is one of those games that I really want to like and play but have so far not been able to get past the first few hours, I bought it via steam some months ago on a whim (I think it was on sale) I have a well deserved week off soon so I will probably set aside a day to try and get into it, though I am not keen on the pvp aspect, more the exploration/trading/mining. Is it full pvp or does it use a pvp flagging system like other games?



the problem (or good thing, depending on your playstyle) is that unless you have a anger threshold the size of mount everest, you probably wont like this game very much. you have everything to lose and EXTREMELY little to gain in this game.

because everything you have busted your arse off getting can and will be lost in a battle if ur careless/ganked/etc.

there is absolutely no problems whatsoever to lose items that you spent about a year getting in a single fight.

and most ppl in EvE will go to any length to either get what they want or to make sure you suffer. bug abusing, hacks, botting, you name it, they use it.

granted everyone isnt like that but i think i can say that there is more then enough that you will see one atleast once a day. especially if u venture out in lowsec.

i too really wanted to like this game, and actually do like in a way, but the risks you face just isnt worth the time you spend getting stuff.

granted from my views it could have something to do with the incredible bad luck i had in finding good corps, every corp i joined either ended up disbanding shortly after, tried to scam me off my ships/items or just didnt live up to their promises.

so unless something really really REALLY good happens in EvE (such as a really honest and friendly alliance offers me a spot), i wont be back.

and as everyone i know (read know in EVE, not on this board) in EvE is either stupid or plain retarded, i dont see that happening :)

so anyway, if u can take losing stuff u spent many months getting u might find the game fun, if not, u'd do best to look for another game.
 

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the problem (or good thing, depending on your playstyle) is that unless you have a anger threshold the size of mount everest, you probably wont like this game very much. you have everything to lose and EXTREMELY little to gain in this game.

because everything you have busted your arse off getting can and will be lost in a battle if ur careless/ganked/etc.

there is absolutely no problems whatsoever to lose items that you spent about a year getting in a single fight.

and most ppl in EvE will go to any length to either get what they want or to make sure you suffer. bug abusing, hacks, botting, you name it, they use it.

granted everyone isnt like that but i think i can say that there is more then enough that you will see one atleast once a day. especially if u venture out in lowsec.

i too really wanted to like this game, and actually do like in a way, but the risks you face just isnt worth the time you spend getting stuff.

granted from my views it could have something to do with the incredible bad luck i had in finding good corps, every corp i joined either ended up disbanding shortly after, tried to scam me off my ships/items or just didnt live up to their promises.

so unless something really really REALLY good happens in EvE (such as a really honest and friendly alliance offers me a spot), i wont be back.

and as everyone i know (read know in EVE, not on this board) in EvE is either stupid or plain retarded, i dont see that happening :)

so anyway, if u can take losing stuff u spent many months getting u might find the game fun, if not, u'd do best to look for another game.

Wowsers, you must have had some shit luck there feller :p

Eve depends completely on how you want it to play. It's a hostile universe and yes people try to take all your stuff but really, you shouldn't be losing a year's or even a couple of week's worth of kit in a single engagement. The most I've lost in one fight was 300mil (at the time about 3 weeks worth - I've lost a heck of a lot of 200mil T2 ships though ;)) and that's because my screen said I was on the safe side of the gate and the server thought I was trying to cuddle war targets on the other side. The logs; they show nothing.

Risk vs Reward

Try to make big bucks trading, people wil try and scam you. Go 0.0 exploring and the locals are going to try their best to kill you. Do lvl 5 missions in low-sec - you'd better have some serious backup or get out plan organised, cos every pirate corp these days can hot drop a feck load of caps.

An insured, fleet fitted battleship will lose you about 50mil isk if your corp doesn't have a replacement policy like cost price or even a free ship. I played for 18months before training Battleships lvl1.

I keep telling myself to get back into Eve, my busy work period is over so I'm gonna try and make a day of it tomorrow and see how I get on. I may just go meh and stop again, but I've got a bil to spend on shiny things so it might keep my attention. It is afterall about the people, they will make or break it for you. For most of my Eve time I flew with the same few people whether in a noob corp, a pirate corp, 2 different 0.0 alliances in completely different regions and more recently an alt corp :p

I can't fly cap ships, nor do I really have an interest currently to do so. Most of my skills are in cruiser class ships so for me Tech3 should be pretty cool from what I read.

I've spied out a corp on the forums I think would suit me. I'll have a chat with them and go from there. The biggest reason I think I've enjoyed Eve without getting involved in the larger conflicts and keeping silly hours playing is that I have no real interest in winning, just enjoying it.

Rambling but perhaps a slightly more positive outlook :drink:
 

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For the reasons mentioned above, I herald Darkfall Online as the next holy grail of PvP and sandbox play.
 

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I've spied out a corp on the forums I think would suit me. I'll have a chat with them and go from there. The biggest reason I think I've enjoyed Eve without getting involved in the larger conflicts and keeping silly hours playing is that I have no real interest in winning, just enjoying it.

Good luck - there are some pretty bad corps out there. I have a lot of industry/mining skills and that seems to mean I have 'exploit me' tattooed on my forehead when it comes to corps.

There are a lot of unreasonable corps like - come work for us so we can take half your ore for little return or B - we'll buy all your ore off you at a fraction of its worth then sell it on :)
 

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Indeed - there are a lot of really poor corps out there. It takes time to find a good one. If you want tips on who to talk to in game just ask the people here we can certainly point out a few of the better ones.
 

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Indeed - there are a lot of really poor corps out there. It takes time to find a good one. If you want tips on who to talk to in game just ask the people here we can certainly point out a few of the better ones.

Cheers - I think I'm gonna stay solo for a bit and train up a few skills in preparation for heading out to 0.0.

I quite like the idea of heading out on my own to an npc outpost in 0.0 - it has that frontiersman feel about it.

Once I'm out there I can start looking for a decent corp.
 

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Wowsers, you must have had some shit luck there feller :p

Eve depends completely on how you want it to play. It's a hostile universe and yes people try to take all your stuff but really, you shouldn't be losing a year's or even a couple of week's worth of kit in a single engagement. The most I've lost in one fight was 300mil (at the time about 3 weeks worth - I've lost a heck of a lot of 200mil T2 ships though ;)) and that's because my screen said I was on the safe side of the gate and the server thought I was trying to cuddle war targets on the other side. The logs; they show nothing.


a fully factioned ship will put a tad bigger dent in your pocket (and will take one hell of alot longer to get) then mere 300 million :)



and yes, my luck'o'meter in eve hardly ever got past "your getting raped" when i played.


there was this one time when it were hovering over "prodding with barbed wire" tho. quite possibly my happiest time in EvE.
 

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Cheers - I think I'm gonna stay solo for a bit and train up a few skills in preparation for heading out to 0.0.

I quite like the idea of heading out on my own to an npc outpost in 0.0 - it has that frontiersman feel about it.

Once I'm out there I can start looking for a decent corp.

I'd suggest getting a corp in the NPC regions before you head out. To put it simply the vultures out there will rip you to shreds, rape you, eat you alive, take your stuff and spit you back to empire.

Unless there's some special "holding alliance" with NRDS or similar, which are becoming more and more rare.
 

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a fully factioned ship will put a tad bigger dent in your pocket (and will take one hell of alot longer to get) then mere 300 million :)

Heh, of course :) My missioning ship has T2 cap rigs but there's no chance in hell I'm taking it anywhere near a hostile.

A few months back I would have recommended F0undation in NPC Great Wildlands as they operate (mostly) NRDS and it's easy ratting and exploration. They're in the big war now so there's a bit more activity than before :D CVA space is supposed to be pretty good for finding your feet.
 

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I'd suggest getting a corp in the NPC regions before you head out. To put it simply the vultures out there will rip you to shreds, rape you, eat you alive, take your stuff and spit you back to empire.

Unless there's some special "holding alliance" with NRDS or similar, which are becoming more and more rare.

CVA in providence has a NRDS policy, but if you crap up there space or mine there your in trouble.
 

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I'd suggest getting a corp in the NPC regions before you head out. To put it simply the vultures out there will rip you to shreds, rape you, eat you alive, take your stuff and spit you back to empire.

That risk is half the fun tho surely :)

I am under no illusions that it will be easy but I am preparing as best I can - both my accounts can already use cloaks and I'll get covert ops ships to sneak my bpo's in.

I also plan to use 1 account to scout for the other and to get through the bottleneck systems straight after downtime during the week.

Once my bpc's are in I can be completely self sufficient luckily and indeed there should be good opportunities to make a better profit from my manufacturing out there :)
 

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EVE Online | EVE Insider | Dev Blog

This looks like it is going to be a bit bigger than I thought. No real info yet. Should I subscribe to EON again to find out?

Hmm - interesting development approach - sounds like they are using RAD (Rapid Application Development) however having different self sufficient groups developing different bits is an approach of desperation.

It lets you code a lot quickly but its likely to have a lot of bugs when you build all these disparate sections back into one integrated system.
 

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Hmm - interesting development approach - sounds like they are using RAD (Rapid Application Development) however having different self sufficient groups developing different bits is an approach of desperation.

It lets you code a lot quickly but its likely to have a lot of bugs when you build all these disparate sections back into one integrated system.

yeah theres something about that blog post that isnt filling me with anticipation. it kinda looks like they are on a panic rush :/
 

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yeah theres something about that blog post that isnt filling me with anticipation. it kinda looks like they are on a panic rush :/

Its an odd way to create a planned expansion - the only explanation I can see is that it was originally planned for release much later but that the deal with Atari brought the release date forward by a big chunk and now they are scrabbling to meet the date.

Lots of software projects end up like that :)
 

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Yeah I can see what you mean. Its a very sudden development and it looks like they have put everything on hold as a result. Including walking about - which ironically would probably have been a better expansion for an ATARI release....
 

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whats ATARI up to then?

Atari have signed up to physically distribute Eve in shops - however this means the code has to be ready well in advance of march in order to manufacture the physical copies so theres real pressure to be ready fast.

This update is going to be pretty big - major changes to the graphics engine + Tech 3 and all the new zones - those guys are gonna get thru a lot of coffee!
 

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ah, well i had planned to give that expansion a go but with that kind of deadline and that blogpost, i think i'l wait a few months after release to resub.

just to let them iron out all the bugs thats guaranteed to be there.
 

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just to let them iron out all the bugs thats guaranteed to be there.
that thing is for many of us cant access this content at release just because we dont have the skills i bet if you dont have full t2 skills you wont be able to buy new skills for this t3 thing and use any t3 from this expansion :(
 

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T3 is just cruisers so they won't be too inaccessable. However, I do hope having HAC V & Recon V gives me some kind of boostage :p
 

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Everyone knows that walking in stations is a tech test for their upcoming World of Darkness MMO. Despite what they claim. ;)
 

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that thing is for many of us cant access this content at release just because we dont have the skills i bet if you dont have full t2 skills you wont be able to buy new skills for this t3 thing and use any t3 from this expansion :(

You have a point. In fact you could say that about 80% of eve's content. How many of us have been in a 10.10 plex for example?

One of the annoying things about the game is that the arms race has produced some really silly outcomes. Take the double direct damage titans - 2x titans can destroy 120+ peoples sport for a night. They are easy to deploy and they can exploit in game mechanics.

Yet CCP allows it.
 

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