Games Elite: Dangerous

[TdC]

RAAAH! Twice in a row I got interdicted and blasted all to hell and gone with costly cargo. First time a Cobra MkIII got me right in the face with a handful of missiles, and the second time some magical Sidewinder two-shotted my shields and and made light work of the rest of me with some nice laser I would like to have had myself, since my own burst lasers were doing absolutely F* ALL to him. Anyway, first time was about 10K worth of cargo, and second time about 8K so that's most of my assets gone. GRRR!

 

[Hawkwind]

lol I just lost everything to a docking computer, it got stuck in the entrance port whilst I was having a pee. Came back to see that ship was killed and I now have 1026 CR and a sidewinder L9 and 3.6 mill CR gone 30 sec

 

[TdC]

ouch

 

[Jupitus]

lol I just lost everything to a docking computer, it got stuck in the entrance port whilst I was having a pee. Came back to see that ship was killed and I now have 1026 CR and a sidewinder L9 and 3.6 mill CR gone 30 sec

Ouch indeed!! I did slap you with a facepalm though - docking computer??? I'd never trust one of them!!

 

[Mabs]

SUPER VAGUE TIME !

how complex is this? are we talking super mega complex or reasonably sensible ? i know some people like "sims" of space games, but i am crap at learning them

so give me some insight, considering it but really cant decide

 

[Jupitus]

It's well designed in that it can be quite simple (though it does have a steep learning curve to start) or you can delve a lot deeper into the intricacies of the power management / targeting/ weapon loadouts in a lot more detail if desired.

 

[TdC]

Its fairly arcadey Mabs, at the current level of development that is. also, its *very* beta right now: there are dozens of things I could list right now that really need fixing, and that's just what I noticed from a day of playing really. Fighting/flying isn't that hard...easy to learn, difficult to master springs to mind as a phrase. In certain battles power-management becomes as much an important factor as the gun at the pointy end of your ship. Given the fairly extensive power management options, there are quite some possibilities there that I have not even begun to touch (mostly how to power down specific systems to make your ship much harder to detect)

Most used trick to getting the cash basically is find a pair, or triumvirate of systems with reciprocal exports and grind away as a trader to get better ships/weaps. If you have decent enough weaps you can be a bounty hunter, and if you feel like living dangerously there is a posibility to pirate although imo options are limited atm.

That I am aware there is no mining possible right now, and everything is ships (so you cant own a station or something like that). Anyway, the universe is massive and fairly pretty, there's buckets of nostalgia ofc, and the dev team talks of adding lots of stuff space-wise so if things keep going we're set for a while tbh.

 

[Zarjazz]

lol I just lost everything to a docking computer, it got stuck in the entrance port whilst I was having a pee. Came back to see that ship was killed and I now have 1026 CR and a sidewinder L9 and 3.6 mill CR gone 30 sec

We all have to learn the Insurance lesson at some point, I had mine in a Hauler and 7 credits left, but a L9?! That's brutal

 

[Urgat]

also, re the two fines and wanted status...nah Ath, twas both pirate scumbags, but...I didn't let them hit me first so maybe that was the thing?

I suspect at some point they will make "cargo demand" a criminal offence to enable piracy. For now, you gotta wait for them to hit you as others said.

Got my TrackIR setup now but need to figure out how to setup an On/Off look around mode on a spare joystick switch. Is it just switching the mouse middle key to a spare slot in the options?

The trackir software has a built in on/off toggle. F12 default i think, can be changed in trackir setup. If you have a programable stick you can just assign a button to the relevant keystroke.

Radient Dawn

Radient dawn is one of the more advanced AI pilots. He uses a LOT of lateral thrust combined with FAOFF. He is there to teach you about maneuvering using thrusters and FA toggle. You will struggle to beat him without using the same techniques. (Not a bad thing... Its advanced flying and you dont need to be an advanced pilot to enjoy the game at all.)

RAAAH! Twice in a row I got interdicted and blasted all to hell and gone with costly cargo. First time a Cobra MkIII got me right in the face with a handful of missiles, and the second time some magical Sidewinder two-shotted my shields and and made light work of the rest of me with some nice laser I would like to have had myself, since my own burst lasers were doing absolutely F* ALL to him. Anyway, first time was about 10K worth of cargo, and second time about 8K so that's most of my assets gone. GRRR!

Interdiction is broken at the moment. You can simply boost away and enter sc without them ever getting close. Expect this to change at some point when they fix it.

lol I just lost everything to a docking computer, it got stuck in the entrance port whilst I was having a pee. Came back to see that ship was killed and I now have 1026 CR and a sidewinder L9 and 3.6 mill CR gone 30 sec

OUCH!

That I am aware there is no mining possible right now, and everything is ships (so you cant own a station or something like that). Anyway, the universe is massive and fairly pretty, there's buckets of nostalgia ofc, and the dev team talks of adding lots of stuff space-wise so if things keep going we're set for a while tbh.

Mining has been hinted at for the next update.

 

[Athan]

Interdiction is broken at the moment. You can simply boost away and enter sc without them ever getting close. Expect this to change at some point when they fix it.

It will certainly see changes... but for the benefit of the less experienced pilots I'll point out that you cannot always avoid trouble currently. The Type-6 is too slow to effectively out-run an Eagle if said Eagle interdicts you close enough for instance. You'll at least have to dodge around a bit, and best to put 4 pips in Sys once you're at max speed with FAOff (as you don't need them in engines).

I also had one dicey interdiction in a Type-9 against 3 Cobra Mk IIIs that started lobbing a whole lot of missiles at me. I was at the FAOff/Boost max speed and 4 pips in shields, and dropped a heatsink at one point, but still only escaped with 78% hull left. Yes, I realised later that I should/could have turned systems off and/or gone Silent Running (with FAOff still) to lose their lock on me... that or had a chaff launcher/point defense turrets.

Basically, don't get complacent about interdictions, there are a few that can still be a threat currently.

Also of note is that a dev did state that they would probably revert the FAOff/Boost thing, putting some bleed-off of the speed back in, so it will no longer be as effective. Time will tell if it's worth doing at all.

I'd expect in future that at the very least being interdicted will mean your FSD has a much longer cooldown before being usable again, and of course some of the NPCs will be more effective at catching up to any fleeing ship.

 

[Ormorof]

the more i read about you guys and the shiz you are up to the more tempted i am to splurge

 

[Mabs]

is it purely cockpit cam, or is there any walking in ship or in stations etc ?

 

[TdC]

It will certainly see changes... but for the benefit of the less experienced pilots I'll point out that you cannot always avoid trouble currently. The Type-6 is too slow to effectively out-run an Eagle if said Eagle interdicts you close enough for instance. You'll at least have to dodge around a bit, and best to put 4 pips in Sys once you're at max speed with FAOff (as you don't need them in engines).

I also had one dicey interdiction in a Type-9 against 3 Cobra Mk IIIs that started lobbing a whole lot of missiles at me. I was at the FAOff/Boost max speed and 4 pips in shields, and dropped a heatsink at one point, but still only escaped with 78% hull left. Yes, I realised later that I should/could have turned systems off and/or gone Silent Running (with FAOff still) to lose their lock on me... that or had a chaff launcher/point defense turrets.

Basically, don't get complacent about interdictions, there are a few that can still be a threat currently.

Also of note is that a dev did state that they would probably revert the FAOff/Boost thing, putting some bleed-off of the speed back in, so it will no longer be as effective. Time will tell if it's worth doing at all.

I'd expect in future that at the very least being interdicted will mean your FSD has a much longer cooldown before being usable again, and of course some of the NPCs will be more effective at catching up to any fleeing ship.

yeah Flight Assist toggling is something I am just getting my head around. ofc it's logical to orient towards a ship and just feed them lasers while they try to line up shots. it's all in Enders Game (and Protector, if you want something equally cool but more obscure). tbh I'm a fairly decent pilot while using FA to the point that I expect it to be there, and thus mess up when its not. I'll really have to get some praccy in. funnily enough I was watching some dude in an Eagle owning everything around him on youtube last night: he'd use the Eagle's speed and agility to get in close, FA off and just gently strafe while making his victims eat cannon rounds. it was awesome and he obliterated everything around him. I also have a tri-gun'd Eagle, so tonight will be practice time!

 

[TdC]

is it purely cockpit cam, or is there any walking in ship or in stations etc ?

atm yes re the cam chum. everything is done from the ship, incl trading, etc. there's talk of being able to land on planets, but that's a ways off yet.

 

[Mabs]

atm yes re the cam chum. everything is done from the ship, incl trading, etc. there's talk of being able to land on planets, but that's a ways off yet.

RIGHTO
ta matey

 

[Hawkwind]

We all have to learn the Insurance lesson at some point, I had mine in a Hauler and 7 credits left, but a L9?! That's brutal

yeah, insurance was close to 130k! have to remember to hold back some funds in reserve.

 

[TdC]

wow this game is making me rage something fierce. I lost my Eagle twice, first time due to me being stupid, also causing me to lose something like 7 outstanding bounty bonds that I was going to cash in, and the second time due to me being jousted in the federal distress signal zone, where a federal fighter bumrushed me and we both died...again with something like 6 outstanding bounty bonds to my name. THIRD time, I was happily trading, got interdicted and saw two pips on the scanner. I assumed they were systems security and ignored them while I faffed about with my settings. Turns out it was a Cobra and an Eagle who both went hostile and fried me while I was distracted. I managed to disengage at the cost of 50% of my hull plating, and while trying to jump away the Cobra proceeded to snipe me from a distance while the Eagle caught up and we did a little dance. I managed to get him down to about 35% of his hull but ofc the mean old Cobra had caught up by that time and wiped me out.

So...once more assets gone and I'm back in a Sidewinder :-|

 

[Hawkwind]

Ouch indeed!! I did slap you with a facepalm though - docking computer??? I'd never trust one of them!!

Yeah, I only used it if i was working, on the phone, or as in this case taking a bio break. Seriously don't trust them on an L9, it gets stuck and the risj is not worth it. over 7 mill CR gone in a few seconds. Not a problem with any of the smaller ships.

@TdC know how you feel, this game has a habit of being easy going, lulling you in a false sense of security, then wham! It bites you in the arse big time!

 

[Urgat]

I think that is one of the things i like about it, though.

If takes me back to pre-trammel UO

When dying had consequences... And you didn't run around with stuff you couldn't afford to loose because one death was all it took.

 

[TdC]

just bought a HOTAS...I blame YOU GUYS! now I have to clean up my desk

 

[TdC]

heh, I buy a Cobra, and on my very first landing the FUCKING WINDOWS UPDATER pops up and claims focus. luckily I could alt-tab back in game and save things. ofc I forgot all about the updater, and in a random USS I badger some wanted trader into dropping his goods. While considering what to pick up first out of all the goodies laid out before me -there were like 10 Tobacco, which is 50K credits ffs- the bastard updater promptly reboots my computer. Oh well, time for bed.

 

[Athan]

And this is why I have Windows Update set to only check and notify, and then only for Administrator (when I use a Limited account). Yes, I remember to check for fresh patches on (or the next day) the 2nd Tue of the month.

Anyways, another Friday, another newsletter. This one is teasing about some Beta 2 features, but still no hint of a date for that. Plus we've definitely not been teased about some vital features like Exploration yet. So still anyone's guess when we'll get Beta 2, current best guesstimates being the 16th Sep (as it's almost always on a Tuesday).

 

[TdC]

FFS now I got a 401 error, which is a desync between server and client ship states it seems. I couldn't change my weapons loadouts on the Cobra anymore....so hadda buy a Sidewinder and then jump back up to a Cobra again. Refits only cost me something like 50K credits. Bugger it I'm off to do some school stuff.

 

[TdC]

@Urgat is famous!!
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW8UUvRG7Hg

 

[Shagrat]

Nice little dogfight that. Nice advert for the tactical side of space combat

 

[TdC]

heh couple of exciting interdictions: 3x Cobra, 3x Eagle. One USS with 5 or 6 ships in it, Cobras, Sidewinders, etc. I attacked a Cobra with a Wanted scan reading and *everyone* turned out to be pirates and I got attacked from all sides. I managed to disengage and make a run for it, but just as I hit the surge button missiles were launched and I was sucking down some vacuum :-/

 

[Urgat]

I remember that engagement. Good fight vs a very smart eagle pilot.

I almost just bailed and disengaged during the long range engagement... But my fighting spirit kicked in.

Now fly a viper. Would have turned out very differently, i think.

 

[TdC]

got my HOTAS now. holy shit, the configuring! I spent about an hour faffing about last night and am still working out things to do with it 0_o

 

[Jupitus]

I got jealous, so just ordered a budget HOTAS myself

 

[Jupitus]

I like this guy's videos - he reminds me a bit of @Roo Stercogburn :


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft0Ufrbon_8&list=UUxzC4EngIsMrPmbm6Nxvb-A


So - I have a Viper with 8 tons cargo, and took his advice for making cash... I netted 36k credits on my first run by finding an USS with 10 Gold floating around first try!!