Edward Snowden....what do you think?

[Ju[iaN]

nothing as you like, but it is an electroshock and as Scouse said, now we're more accurate, deal with it if you can change it, be the change ...

 

[Scouse]

Interesting and quite surprising use of logic from a judge re: snowden.

It's an article about Guantanamo trials and surveillance btw.

 

[Raven]

The more shit that comes out the more stupid America looks for trying to persecute Edward Snowden. He is simply reporting criminals for carrying out crimes. He should be rewarded.

The US government appear to be complete mongs.

 

[Job]

These fukers are literaly tapping the entire world..but still Bin Laden hid in ahouse for ten years

 

[rynnor]

These fukers are literaly tapping the entire world..but still Bin Laden hid in ahouse for ten years

It's more about snooping on normal citizens than anti-terror - that's just the excuse they use to deflect criticism.

 

[Chilly]

The problem is that he didn't just steal/publish the big stuff that was kind of known but not proven. He took SHITLOADS of highly classified material relating to all sorts of operations. I find it hard to believe he studied each one and decided correctly that it was in the public's interest to leak. The US authorities are chasing him because he's gallivanting around fucking Russia with the FSB's wet dream in his head/pocket/whatever. If I were the US, I'd pardon him just to get him home and away from foreign intelligence (and then jump him at the airport and lock him up).

The leaking of the prism stuff and other things like bugging of Merkel's phone, I agree with leaking, but he took so much more with him. Extremely reckless.

 

[rynnor]

The problem is that he didn't just steal/publish the big stuff that was kind of known but not proven. He took SHITLOADS of highly classified material relating to all sorts of operations. I find it hard to believe he studied each one and decided correctly that it was in the public's interest to leak. The US authorities are chasing him because he's gallivanting around fucking Russia with the FSB's wet dream in his head/pocket/whatever. If I were the US, I'd pardon him just to get him home and away from foreign intelligence (and then jump him at the airport and lock him up).

The leaking of the prism stuff and other things like bugging of Merkel's phone, I agree with leaking, but he took so much more with him. Extremely reckless.

How do you know exactly or is this another smear story from the embarassed security agencies involved like all their talking heads have been spouting?

 

[Raven]

Obviously he didn't check every last detail before stealing the huge amount of data. However, as far as I know he has not (yet) released any names of informants, spies or anything at all related that sort of thing.

 

[Scouse]

He took SHITLOADS of highly classified material relating to all sorts of operations. I find it hard to believe he studied each one and decided correctly that it was in the public's interest to leak

No. He handed it to a responsible news outlet that is doing just that.

Well done Mr Snowdon. Who's not "gallivanting around fucking Russia" - he's living in a land he doesn't really want to be in, in fear for his freedom (as Russia have granted him 12 months asylum) - without easy access to all of his friends, family and the land of his birth - which he professes to love.

He's clearly being right royally fucked over for being a man of conscience.

And yes - he is a man of conscience - if he wasn't a man of conscience he'd be sitting pretty on his 150k a year, in Hawaii, laughing his tits off, drinking cocktails in his easy job that he didn't have to work hard at.

 

[Job]

Funny really..we all sorta knew it was going on..every politically based movie hints at it..so why are we so shocked to see it in the flesh..is it like catching your parents having sex.

 

[Scouse]

This is how to protest

 

[rynnor]

This is how to protest

You first mate

 

[MYstIC G]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/in...en-nsa-files-surveillance-revelations-decoded

Thought that was a reasonably interesting overview of all this.

 

[Calaen]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/in...en-nsa-files-surveillance-revelations-decoded

Thought that was a reasonably interesting overview of all this.

Runs off to download TOR

It certainly looks like his actions are going to cause some kind of change over the pond.

 

[Chilly]

Bet you they don't. Bet you they pass more secrecy laws and take more piss out of the public.

 

[Scouse]

The UK Government is officially in your home, looking at you, watching you wank.

And the best GCHQ can say is that "it's not illegal".

 

[Raven]

How dare he show to the world what utter pricks we have in control!

 

[Fweddy]

I can't help but think that the chain of events that lead to @Wij's neutering started with a GCHQ agent hacking his webcam feed and then rolling on floor screaming about his eyes.

 

[MYstIC G]

I can't help but think that the chain of events that lead to @Wij's neutering started with a GCHQ agent hacking his webcam feed and then rolling on floor screaming about his eyes.

It was *snip* *snip* or getting buggered in Guantanamo. @Wij was going to go for Guantanamo until he was told he'd be the receiver.

 

[Scouse]

What’s really changed 10 years after the Snowden revelations?

The whistleblower forced US intelligence agencies to admit extensive spying on their own citizens. Some reforms were enacted but Snowden still faces potentially 30 years in prison

www.theguardian.com

 

[Embattle]

I'm about as bothered about Snowden now as I was 10 years ago, basically not much and he will remain in jail for the rest of his life should he get caught by the yanks.

 

[Scouse]

As always, there are some people who dislike wholesale government surveillance of law-abiding citizens, and there some people who don't care and would rather shoot the messenger I guess.

The article's not about him @Embattle...