Ebay is okay ?

Simory

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What is ppl's opinion about small kids and n00bs that buys an already rr6+ acc and plays it in RvR, so they dont have to lvl there own characters ... ??
 

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Simory said:
What is ppl's opinion about small kids and n00bs that buys an already rr6+ acc and plays it in RvR, so they dont have to lvl there own characters ... ??

PM Manisch, he's an expert in these things.
 

Phule_Gubben

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it's not the little kids that buys em thou, where should they get the money for it from?.

Anyway, I think it's rather unnecessary since you don't know how to play, prolly, the new class which will show pretty fast anyway. And tbh just buying one for the sole reason of no xping, why even buy an account at all?

just my 2 cents.
 

shadowofthenight

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lol in some ways its wrong because theres no point in playing daoc if ya not gnna lvl a char but its there cash and they can do w/e they want with it tbh what i dnt agree with is people buying Plats off ebay thats just sad its not hard to farm cash nowadays i farm in PoC ,AC,Brim and the money drops are nice
 

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I don´t see why I should be bothered about other peoples actions. If a kid wants to play a high RR toon and is willing to take all the risks of being scammed, then it´s his choice. Seriously, life is too short to waste your time thinking about Ebayed chars. It doesn´t make a difference for me, most of the time, it´s good for a laugh when you meet someone in RvR who doesn´t have the slightest clue about how to play his char or if a level 50 Paladin in Camelot is asking for directions to Campa Forest. :)
 

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I used to hate it a while back, when it wasn't an everyday thing, but now half the proper characters got ebayed (aswell as a load of shit chars) and it doesn't really make a difference anymore. Besides, if 700 people online at prime time is as good as things get, every account online makes a difference :p
 

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shadowofthenight said:
what i dnt agree with is people buying Plats off ebay thats just sad its not hard to farm cash nowadays i farm in PoC ,AC,Brim and the money drops are nice

I bought plats on US to get myself started
Made me happier than pulling mobs all day long would
I don't want a PvE farming char, even though thats all my classic ranger has become

I play this game for RvR, not to feel like steve mcqueen in a prison cell with a baseball.
 

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i would assume it`s not the kids who by stuff on ebay (what is you defenition of a kid).

i think a lot of ebayed chars are bought by people who already have level 50 chars.

motivations can be

-to start on a new server/realm without going through months long trials to make 1 or more chars level 50, artes, ml`s, champ levels.

-to take a char from a friend over who takes a break / quits. i know of some chars that were sold by the owner to friends and were bought back after 1 or more years of abscence by the original owner. something you can`t do if you sell to a stranger.

imho, `true` kids don`t have the cash or visa to go buy stuff on ebay.
 

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Muylaetrix said:
i would assume it`s not the kids who by stuff on ebay (what is you defenition of a kid).

i think a lot of ebayed chars are bought by people who already have level 50 chars.

motivations can be

-to start on a new server/realm without going through months long trials to make 1 or more chars level 50, artes, ml`s, champ levels.

-to take a char from a friend over who takes a break / quits. i know of some chars that were sold by the owner to friends and were bought back after 1 or more years of abscence by the original owner. something you can`t do if you sell to a stranger.

imho, `true` kids don`t have the cash or visa to go buy stuff on ebay.

I agree! :)
 

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i'm not too fussed except when it comes to a toon being ebayed by a guildmate who forgets to tell anyone in the guild and you find your vaults have been emptied for salvage by the new owner :p
 

Simory

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the point is using Ebay is the same as using cheats in any other single player game, where u start in last level and cant be killed and got all weapons if its a shooting game fx. thats just bs ... why buy a game that u already have finished before u even get started ?? but yes its ppl's own buisness what they do with there money i just think its crap to buy on ebay, why dont ppl sit down and learn the game from the start of lvl1 like many ppl have done ???
thats just my opinion!
 

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Greag u play your zerk like a ebayed moron!!
Btw u playing alb cluster atm?
 

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Personally im fine with ppl that have bought their account, as long as there not complete dicks that is.
Wouldnt do it myself for much the same reason my 50's werent pl'd and toa/CL rushed: I like to get the feel of the class from the start,and enjoy getting stronger with the effort i put into it :)
 

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Imho speaking from experience make ur own char, you choose the name the starting point the size etc, its yours! like the face I put 3 charisma and 2 empathy in my merc starting stats, but hes still mine! :) chars like Subedai will never feel like they are mine, I have done from 8Lx to 10L6 and still doesnt feel like my char. whereas my other chars including brackus and nadiah and haidan are all mine all my rps all my names etc etc. Its up to the person tho, yes its nice to get insta 50 insta template insta ml10, and insta rr10 but the enjoyment of a char is knowing the hard work you put into making it lvling it, templating it and rr'ing it.
 

Simory

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Dre@d said:
Greag u play your zerk like a ebayed moron!!
Btw u playing alb cluster atm?

Hey Dreaddy :p yeah i know i play zerker like shit ;D but then again ive played mid once and i got a SM to lvl 32 atm on pryd/mid ... ive always played alb, it took me 2 years now to get my 5 lvl 50's and only 1 of em is ml9 wich is Greag (my sorc) rest is ml4-8 ... and yes acc has been reopend now so will come and play Avalon again tonight :D looking forward to get rr3 on zerker if we get a grp runing
 

Dre@d

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Instead lvl in cluster go to join some pugs on avalon! and get some rps :/ amazing population now with clustered servers so even u can get a grp :/
 

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the point is using Ebay is the same as using cheats in any other single player game, where u start in last level and cant be killed and got all weapons if its a shooting game fx

Yup. And I don´t give a flying f*ck about people using cheats in single player games either. ;)

why dont ppl sit down and learn the game from the start of lvl1 like many ppl have done ???

As Muy already said, a lot of ebayed accounts are played by people who have played one realm and just wanted to try another realm without going through all the levelling grind. I guess the percentage of complete noobs ebaying chars is quite low.
 

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I used to be against it, but now I have seen the benefits I take back all I ever said about it.

Firstly, an open account no matter who it belongs to is a good thing for the health of the game.

Secondly, try starting this game from scratch now, level 1, no money, no toons, no lowbie groups, its depressing. The grind has improved in the last couple of years, but back in the day when there were xp groups queuing up everywhere things were different, more social.

Thirdly, give them half a chance, todays n00b maybe tomorrows RR11 or PvE Raid organiser extrodinaire, you were n00bs once, and you got to where you are. Anyone here saying the word "n00b" who wasnt here for day one should not use the word, as you were right in that position once!

Finally, who does it really hurt, if better safeguards were in place by GOA to protect the "current legimiate owner" from getting shafted by the guy who bought it, got to level 20 and quit, then decides he wants it back 6 months after selling, then there wouldnt be a problem. Possession is 9/10th of the law they used to say, and so it should be in this case imo.
 

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Lets say you have been playing alb for 3 years have loots of toons you made and are kinda proud of. Tired of the classes since u tried them all ,
then u hear 4 friends started on mid avalon but they did it 1 month ago and are all set for rvr and ask if you want to join playing a class u like on mid lets say bonedancer. you start lvl on mid youreself and notice u cant do a single quest cos u dont speak german and to lazy to keep a 2 computer on to read step by step instructions on the net. when u are lvl 10 super bonedancer u hear from a friend soem oen want to sell a 50 bonedancer rr5 ml 10 for 60 euro . think meny would take that offer cos it saves u time that u might not have so much of with irl stuff and work etc that some atleast have. And i dont see any problm with it. since i know i have played for 3 years and so does my friends even tho im no bd expert it wont take more then a few h to mater the 2 buttons well 4 then.

thats my view on the matter.
 

Simory

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epoxy said:
Lets say you have been playing alb for 3 years have loots of toons you made and are kinda proud of. Tired of the classes since u tried them all ,
then u hear 4 friends started on mid avalon but they did it 1 month ago and are all set for rvr and ask if you want to join playing a class u like on mid lets say bonedancer. you start lvl on mid youreself and notice u cant do a single quest cos u dont speak german and to lazy to keep a 2 computer on to read step by step instructions on the net. when u are lvl 10 super bonedancer u hear from a friend soem oen want to sell a 50 bonedancer rr5 ml 10 for 60 euro . think meny would take that offer cos it saves u time that u might not have so much of with irl stuff and work etc that some atleast have. And i dont see any problm with it. since i know i have played for 3 years and so does my friends even tho im no bd expert it wont take more then a few h to mater the 2 buttons well 4 then.

thats my view on the matter.

good point there, but dont u think the friends would help him/her lvl then perhaps ? Atleast i would offer a friend if he startet playing the same realm as me and i had some lvl 50 chars rdy for RvR etc ... As for myself i wouldnt sell my acc to anyone since ive put all the hard work into it, but thats just me ... :)

p.s nice to see a Thread were ppl dont go nuts and call other ppl stupid things like twat or anything else :clap:
 

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depends a bit, theres various types

ebayers that have a big ego and brag about the amount of rps they "made" - the type I'll flame at every single opportunity possible

and

those who are modest and just play with their friends in their own way, don't hide the fact they bought the acc and try to maintain a good reputation - the type I'll still flame but usually prove to be nice people, which makes me apologize :(.

making a char from scratch will always give you more respect then buying one, but in some situations its kinda understandable. best way to ebay is to buy an unknown but fully toa'd char tho, that way you can start from rr1 without the pve hassle
 

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Vodkafairy said:
ebayers that have a big ego and brag about the amount of rps they "made" - the type I'll flame at every single opportunity possible
The problem with that type doesnt normally start with them, it starts with someone who knows full well the twink is ebayed yelling "you ebayed and dont deserve it n00b" and so an arguement begins, normally with (by your own admission) people like you yelling at them about what "they" didnt acheive. Its a chicken and egg thing tbh.

Too many players are critical of how people play, how they earned their RPs or toons and dont take enough time to get to know people, which puts all kinds of people off playing, I do know one guy who did ebay an RR8 account, only to be shot down in flames when he logged in by l33t players who resented the fact he hadnt earnt his place in the game. 1 month later he quit and told the people in the game he knew that the game was great, attitudes sucked.
 

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Muylaetrix said:
-to take a char from a friend over who takes a break / quits. i know of some chars that were sold by the owner to friends and were bought back after 1 or more years of abscence by the original owner. something you can`t do if you sell to a stranger.

Yes, that's one of the reasons I have personal experience with =)

I also know people who bought an account cause there was an LGM sc'er on it, combined with other chars that are useful in PvE, thus they saved lots of time.

I wouldn't say it's about leveling and ML's cause tbh, in 5 weeks on Avalon we nearly got all we need at soon ML10 with very relaxed playing, but crafters is always another thing.

I mean it bothers me when people I know sell their chars to some random person and I've made not so nice remarks about it, but even worse is those who buy 10L9 chars and 1year later they go like woot I dinged RR11, such a great achievement. As long as people keep it a bit quiet and don't go so mad about it, oh well, why not.
 

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Would of said ages ago it was a bad thing since when the population was ok, and the game was still fun to play.

Now the game is pretty dead I can understand why people buy
 

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Ebay or not. ppl with crap daocskills should be perma banned.
 

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