Easymode realm?

[Shike]

hihi alb is easymode... hihi..

haha

nub!

Mid is by far the best kitted out realm overall imho even though they maybe fail to realise it themselves..

Midsupport if played well are superior to anything we can put up, combine it with bugabusing midtanks so they cant be grappled.. fun..

AoEstun isnt really any good
Neither is 3 lulclasses in one grp along with CC on all 3 aswell
PBAE on a near unhittable class for melees suck ass or better yet, lifetaps
The interruptmachine shaman < mentalistspecced mentas
10s unpurgable stun is total crap, especially combined with the nifty sideeffect of problems with rezzing afterwards someone got killed in it, it make no difference that mids have 3-4 of these masterabilitys in one grp tbh since its so sucky anyway
Instalifetap with a nice selfdebuff is shit
All midsupport is in chain, i mean, chain? give em plate or better imo, chain isnt good enough
Depending on groupbuild a midgrp can have up to around 5 curemezzers in one group, thats awfully bad too, it really is

I dunno, mid is kinda sucky tbh..

 

[Shike]

Paladin melee doesnt suck, Jjuraa managed 200+ a swing on me which is pretty good. It sucks if you dont spec Slash high which most pallies do. Thats not the fault of the paladins dmg output thats the players fault for not speccing there melee line higher.

Paladins meleeoutput do suck, wardens suck even more though but pallys damageoutput do suck.

Compare it to what you want, it still sucks...

 

[NeonBlue]

Sorcerer also has a more tools to defend himself thanks to pet, quickcast and lifetap.

and pray tell how does a sorc defend himself with an assist train or constantly getting interrupted?

in theory ur right...but in practice ur not...the sorc from my experince was the FIRST target for any Hibs/Mids to take out

A fire wizard gets nukes as efficent as a darkness runemaster and bolts as efficent as a runecarving runemaster.

hmm i had to retire my fire wiz due to 3 things...
a) not getting groups
b) maxxed heat resists made my dmg crap
c) 2 bolts..1 baseline 1 specline....95% of the time blocked or missed coz of combat
d) which leave me 1 spec DD but coz of b)...made it pointless

though this was before TOA...i cant see it being that vastly improved

again great in theory....shit in practice

So are Albion DAoC on easymode? I dunno but I think they have it easier than Mids when it comes to RvR.

Mids have it easy when making up a rvr group...this has been said many many times before...you only need 2 healers & 1shammy...3healers at most and u got ur core sorted

Albions utility is spread too thinly over too many classes to be able to have an effective core...but u need at least mincer/cleric/pally/sorc ...before u can even think dmg dealing classes...though this might be different now with TOA & caster groups

 

[Sycho]

hmm i had to retire my fire wiz due to 3 things...
a) not getting groups
b) maxxed heat resists made my dmg crap
c) 2 bolts..1 baseline 1 specline....95% of the time blocked or missed coz of combat
d) which leave me 1 spec DD but coz of b)...made it pointless

though this was before TOA...i cant see it being that vastly improved

again great in theory....shit in practice

It's hard to get groups with them yes but 95% times bolt blocked or miss?i can't believe that at all, they should only really be used on stealthers/casters and vs them i find them pretty good i think most runecarving runies would say the same.Fire wiz with 25% piercing can nuke hard...takes a lot of time for that though and getting nerfed soon.Mids have high heat resists but hibs do not seem to cap it at all mainly due to fire wiz being only heat thing they would face and they aren't any at all really lately.

 

[NeonBlue]

It's hard to get groups with them yes but 95% times bolt blocked or miss?i can't believe that at all, they should only really be used on stealthers/casters and vs them i find them pretty good i think most runecarving runies would say the same.Fire wiz with 25% piercing can nuke hard...takes a lot of time for that though and getting nerfed soon.Mids have high heat resists but hibs do not seem to cap it at all mainly due to fire wiz being only heat thing they would face and they aren't any at all really lately.

like i said was about 5months before TOA i retired mine...just put him on PL duty

yes of course bolts were used on casters / stealthers, but sometimes u would fire off a bolt, and before it hit, someone else would be attacking ur target, so when bolt landed it missed or got blocked

true about the hibs heat resist remember 1 shotting 1 poor elf chanter with my spec bolt for 1024dmg ( was cap at that time)

must admit if i still had my chars would like to try my fire wiz now...with decent Scing / piercing etc...i can imagine he would be worth playing again

always did enjoy playing him

though wouldnt of minded playing a theurg either...would of been fun harrassing support and playing "interrupter"

 

[Leleith]

This thread is made by one from a realm that has ae stun together with a class with intercepting pet+pbae. Whats easy-mode to you?
As said: what you dont have (and obviously: what you know too little about) is always "better" than the stuff you got yourself.

Whats up with morons making this sort of threads? Whats the point? Feeding the already way too well fed "nerf this" meaningless flame-threads?

 

[Sycho]

yes of course bolts were used on casters / stealthers, but sometimes u would fire off a bolt, and before it hit, someone else would be attacking ur target, so when bolt landed it missed or got blocked

The reason why that happens is because bolts never get resisted, if you bolt a target which is rooted/stunned or more than 1 attacker on it you get that message sadly :/(you probably know that heh) but i haven't seen it much then again i haven't rvred much as fire spec and also having no + fire magic skill sucks xE but sc tomorrow hopefully

Dunno if there's any darkness runies on pryd with 20-25% piercing, 9% spell damage and +11 darkness....would love to see their nuke caps if they do not mind posting here.

I think the thread starter is on serious dose of heavy drugs

 

[leviathane]

end of the day pointles thread, going over same stuff that's been brought up time and time again.

 

[Morchaoron]

Minstrel: Chain stealth with 204% speed, insta stun, AoE mezz, group power / health regen, instant DD, pets upto 110% level, group ablative pulse.
Theurist: Millions of pets, group bladeturn pulse, Dam&Snare, Mezz.
Reaver: pulsing Damage pbAoE, pulsing abs debuff pbAoE, Lifedrain proc, insta DoT.
Palladin: Tank Rezzer!!, Heal chant, endregen chant, AF chant, 3resists chant!!
Cabalist: Reclaim pet??
Cleric: Insta PBAoE Mezz, powerfull offence
Friar: Main healer/buffer with weaponspec and 1.5 specpoints!
Necromancer: Powerdrain, powertransfer, lifedrain, insta lifedrain, self heal over time in base line

should I continue?

yes please continue talking more crap...

 

[NeonBlue]

i haven't rvred much as fire spec and also having no + fire magic skill sucks xE but sc tomorrow hopefully

would be interesting to know how a fire wiz does these days, personally i loved mine...and could never understand why they was never wanted in groups (probably preferred the ice noobs at the time )

Though saying that now i noticed from forums theres more body sorcs around...so maybe a firespec wiz might get into a group more these days

anyways out of interest ull have to let me know how u do once ur fully Sc'ed / ToA'ed etc

for curositys sake

p.s howcome u dont play ur theurg? or dont seem too?....thought that would be great class to play now

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

This thread is made by one from a realm that has ae stun together with a class with intercepting pet+pbae. Whats easy-mode to you?
As said: what you dont have (and obviously: what you know too little about) is always "better" than the stuff you got yourself.

ae stun and pet+pbae are two different spec lines

Whats up with morons making this sort of threads? Whats the point? Feeding the already way too well fed "nerf this" meaningless flame-threads?

if you find me a moron, and find this thread meaningless why do you bother to reply?
I made this thread cos I seriously don't think mid is the "easymode" realm. I play a healer... I'm swinging my qb's from side to side all the time in rvr. if I'd have a camcorder I'd tape my keyboard sometimes while fighting, and you'll be amazed. I'm even an aug healer and not nearly as busy as pac or mend.

All that about healers having insta mezz and insta stun (both on incredibly long timers) and being CC-class and main healer in one.. that also just isn't true, cos they are different speclines. CC is pac, and healing is mend, if you wanna do both you sacrifice a lot on both lines since we only got 1xlevel specpoints.
and okay. we wear chain, I admid that's perhaps "ubah" but even that won't last long when you're having an MA train up your arse, which we quite often have.

 

[Zapsi]

As a realm taking pvp pve into it mid isnt Easy mode, but when it comes to rvr they have the best class of all Healer.
They could remove grapple fine with me just make ZF go same way.

 

[NeonBlue]

ae stun and pet+pbae are two different spec lines

"Theurgist: Millions of pets, group bladeturn pulse, Dam&Snare, Mezz"

PBT = Earth spec
Dmg&Snare = Ice Spec
Mezz = Wind Spec
Pets = all 3 lines

u cant have those u mentioned above without gimping urself and speccing in 3 lines

All that about healers having insta mezz and insta stun (both on incredibly long timers) and being CC-class and main healer in one.. that also just isn't true, cos they are different speclines. CC is pac, and healing is mend, if you wanna do both you sacrifice a lot on both lines since we only got 1xlevel specpoints.

Mind Sorc Albions main CC'er.....healing = none
Minstrel....healing = none
Air Theurg....healing = none
Smite Clerics = non exsistent

so Alb has 3 classes that can mezz and none of them can heal

Mid has 1 class that can do both...even if u have to sacrifice in either line...u can still mezz/heal and demezz and lets not forget poweregen too

 

[Morchaoron]

As a realm taking pvp pve into it mid isnt Easy mode, but when it comes to rvr they have the best class of all Healer.
They could remove grapple fine with me just make ZF go same way.

glory to toa and mls!!! \o/ \o/

 

[Leleith]

ae stun and pet+pbae are two different spec lines

You dont say?

Why do you bother to reply?

To hopefully contribute to the end of this kind of threads? Both from you and others that might read it. I dont find you as a person a moron. Rather the threads being stupid and meaningless. This kind of thread always ends up as a 120+ post replies by people comparing classes that dont really have anything in comment, and that keeps telling others how lucky they are to have this and that spell and ability. If you wanna read that crap, please go back a few pages here. You will be busy reading about it since the day we changed from barrysworld to here.

I made this thread cos I seriously don't think mid is the "easymode" realm. I play a healer... I'm swinging my qb's from side to side all the time in rvr. if I'd have a camcorder I'd tape my keyboard sometimes while fighting, and you'll be amazed. I'm even an aug healer and not nearly as busy as pac or mend.

That kinda shows that your class got way too many tools then. Meaning way too much utilty (if you want) on one single class. Using healer as an example when speaking of midgard being a "poor" realm wont do the trick, as most people knows what a great class it really is.

All that about healers having insta mezz and insta stun (both on incredibly long timers) and being CC-class and main healer in one.

You STILL have AE castable ones. If you have instas, you are speced for it, meaning you will have castables. And thats why you have 2 healers and 1 shaman in the grp, to cover cc/celerity/buffs and heals?

that also just isn't true, cos they are different speclines. CC is pac, and healing is mend, if you wanna do both you sacrifice a lot on both lines since we only got 1xlevel specpoints.

Same thing goes for every other class in the game. You spec for something, while losing something else. Healers still get their baseline cc though, even if they arent speced as pac:ers.

and okay. we wear chain, I admid that's perhaps "ubah" but even that won't last long when you're having an MA train up your arse, which we quite often have.

Once again, same thing for every other class in this game. Not even paladins or armsmen lasts very long when having /assist against them

 

[willowywicca]

Paladin melee doesnt suck, Jjuraa managed 200+ a swing on me which is pretty good. It sucks if you dont spec Slash high which most pallies do. Thats not the fault of the paladins dmg output thats the players fault for not speccing there melee line higher.

Was that when alb had 3 str relics? And paladins cant viably spec to high slash anyway.. if they do they either lose out on good shield or chants.. without those.. even if a pally does good dmg.. would anyone actually want them? Why not take a merc then for det and even better dmg..

 

[Shike]

fs even a solid mincer hit for 200+ easily lol.. and they are rouges with a supportrole in albgrps, and you call that good damage Emma.. stop smoooking crack man Compare it to a savage and.. hmm.. 200+ good? Umm.. ye.. .. .. .. .. .. NOT! lol

 

[Killerbee]

Cleric: powerfull offence

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA. Not?

Necro and pally is powerful in PvE maybe and thats it?

 

[Killerbee]

Smite Clerics = non exsistent

/slap
/cry

 

[Minimez]

Lol at this thread ..

 

[Bloodhunter]

Paladin melee doesnt suck, Jjuraa managed 200+ a swing on me which is pretty good. It sucks if you dont spec Slash high which most pallies do. Thats not the fault of the paladins dmg output thats the players fault for not speccing there melee line higher.

yup i do around 250 dmg with my pally buffed... and 42+14 shield is enough for me

 

[Bloodhunter]

Was that when alb had 3 str relics? And paladins cant viably spec to high slash anyway.. if they do they either lose out on good shield or chants.. without those.. even if a pally does good dmg.. would anyone actually want them? Why not take a merc then for det and even better dmg..

zzz....

palas get det in NF mercs drop too fast if pala dosent have guard on him

 

[Stunned]

4 seers in chain = to much aoe spam. ( Lull+disease )
Insta aoe's vs castergroups= so so ,and will be evenmore powerfull in NF with less meele and nerfed det.

 

[Marcus75]

NeonBlue:

Sorcs get the MA-train on them and that fire-wizzies dosnt get groups in RvR, ok. Well the point was if Alb is easymode and I say that a runie, darkness or RC, is probably as easy/hard to play as a wizard. You still have the decision to chose what type of damage you wanna do as a fire wiz - bolt support/casters to avoid blocks and DD the rest. An RC runie's DD is really horrible in comparison.

Most will probably agree, I think, that playing an Healer is alot harder than playing a Sorc just because of the utility it has and what it has to do - hence the easy-mode discussion. And even tho Midgard at the moment have a good amount of active healers, the good ones arent as numeros. My own healer is 46 now and I find it a real challenge to play - I doubt I will play it good in RvR due to the fact that they got so damn much to do.

Albion might have the core of the group spread out alot but in a class by class comparison with Midgard I think Albion classes are easier to play. Sorc can focus completly on CC and clerics on healing and stunning.

 

[Fadeh]

Utility is a good thing to have you know...

 

[Bubble]

okay perhaps not main healer/buffer.. but it's a healer/buffer nontheless. that one doesn't make albion less overpowered

newbie ^^

 

[Marcus75]

Utility is a good thing to have you know...

Its great I agree that wasnt the topic in this thread now was it?

 

[leviathane]

I think, that playing an Healer is alot harder than playing a Sorc just because of the utility it has and what it has to do Albion might have the core of the group spread out alot but in a class by class comparison with Midgard I think Albion classes are easier to play. Sorc can focus completly on CC and clerics on healing and stunning.

you actually played any of these classes, sorc is damn hard to play in RvR
a) crappy cloth armour, whilst you get chain.
b)low hp, dorf healers-v.nice hp
c)flagged as caster always 1st target for enemy realms.
Ye ill agreee healers can be hard to play but they survive in groups, whereas even the best of sorc will be eating the grass.

 

[Derric]

Aye, Sorcerer is a really easy class to play due to the fact it got nothing else to do but mez.

 

[Derric]

Its great I agree that wasnt the topic in this thread now was it?

Whatever you say.