Dunno about you.

[Thadius]

On another rant, maybe they should put an advert out saying "dont take your eyes off the road, some chav out on a joyride might crash into you as he only has been given an asbo or is out on day release from the Borstal."

 

[CorNokZ]

toht if you do have drivers license, try going at 40km/h and then close your eyes for 2 seconds and see how much further down the road you actually are

It will be the same with texting: Paying attention to the road, look down on cell for a second or two, look up and see a child infront of the car.. Hope that text was really important

 

[Huntingtons]

its not really about being incompetent (execpt i would call you incomptent for dring and texting). the best drivers wont be able to do it either because focus has changed from the road to the phone.

 

[kiliarien]

My activity is 99% too

Am I a bad person?

Ofc not, you never claimed that I was here more than Toht was, as he inferred.

Wubs you Thad.

Toht clearly doesn't drive.

Another Toht fail. Surprise surprise.

 

[Bugz]

I drive!

I passed my test/pass plus...and haven't driven since!

That was over a year ago!

 

[Everz]

Toht.

 

[leviathane]

I hardly like to talk when im drivin, too many idiots on the roads these days so gotta be docused. Cba to get into the toh bashin because its clearly a waste of time.

 

[soze]

I sorry but claiming its ok as long as you pay attention when you need to is stupid as if you hand brake is off you need to be paying attention. I will not even have one drink if i have to drive i don't drink after 10 if im working the next day and then only 2 or 3 at darts pool ect. And i ignore my phone if it rings even with a hands-free set up because i do not see why some one else should pay the price for my fun or impatiens's.

The problem seems to be the prick playing with his phone thinking hes a safe driver never seems the one to get in trouble.

 

[Sparx]

It was a stupid argument to bring up

 

[BloodOmen]

The worse part is the damage/collision would be much greater than shown in that video.

Moral don't text while driving and get an in car hands free kit for incoming calls if you MUST use it while driving.

 

[Olgaline]

You lot are far to hard on poor ol' Toht.

For you see...
it's just another day in tohts neighbourhood,

Spoiler

Aaah!
Another joyfull day in the Land of Nokia

 

[old.Tohtori]

My activity 46%, yours 99%. You might need a better argument than that.

If i'm logged on, doesn't mean i'm tapping F5 all the time. I'm logged on even when i'm at a night out.

You insinuated that i'm here 24/7 and am just thinking of a good answer, which i'm not.

Now stop taking it off-topic(though i find your "toht fail" pursuit quite cute).

I can understand where you are coming from, but what you said culd have been taken the wrong way(which it has)

You didnt mean to, just slipped ingently like Chodax asks me to every night

Yeah, but if i clear it up, it's backpeddling etc, so i think i'll let these peeps think "ooh he stupid".

Focusing on texting with such an over the top video, pointless.

What people missed is that i never claimed texting while driving is ok.

Though even if i said that, people would still live in their anti-lala land.

FYI; i don't need to have a drivers lisence to have an opinion, just like the rest of you don't need to know X to comment on Y.

 

[Bugz]

What people missed is that i never claimed texting while driving is ok

Stop blam ing innocent mobile phones on incompetent people!

it's not about texting and driving(it's about stupid people who can't drive)

There are millions of people who talk, put on make-up and text while driving and don't get into accidents. It's the stupid people who do it while in attention required spots that cause problems.

It's not texting that kills, it's stupid/incompetent people.

Seriously Toht - everyone on this thread disagrees with you and have the experience of having a driving license to go with it, whereas you have an opinion that means jack shit when you're making very bold statements like 'its not texting - its the fact people texting do it in spots where you have to have a lot of attention.' WTF. Driving requires full attention all the time.

You are just digging a hole and making an idiot of yourself on a forum where a lot of people dislike you already (note: I'm not in that 'lot' - but it's the impression I get).

 

[old.Tohtori]

Seriously Toht - everyone on this thread disagrees with you and have the experience of having a driving license to go with it, whereas you have an opinion that means jack shit when you're making very bold statements like 'its not texting - its the fact people texting do it in spots where you have to have a lot of attention.' WTF. Driving requires full attention all the time.

You are just digging a hole and making an idiot of yourself on a forum where a lot of people dislike you already (note: I'm not in that 'lot' - but it's the impression I get).

Yeah you're not in "that lot", you just claim to have me on ignore

Go you.

I don't care if my opinion means jackshit, it's my opinion, just like you i have the right to say it.

And all of the things that you quoted say the same thing; it's not just texting.

Me think focus on texting stupid.

Get it? Good.

Oh and, how many people did you ask on having a drivers lisence to say "everyone has one"? Didn't think so.

FYI; not making an idiot of myself, just have an unpopular view on it. It might be peoples lack of ability to discuss it that's the problem.

Rather then going "you stupid idiot", how about putting forth an argument?

 

[Bugz]

Jeez dude, you're beyond help.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Jeez dude, you're beyond help.

Yeah, just don't reply me anymore. Better off like that since you start the "lalala" act every time.

Same goes for anyone who can't keep civil and doesn't want to throw in some arguments, just don't bother.

 

[TdC]

after just having driven 5000km to, in and from Norway I will go as far as to say that you don't need a mobile phone to be a complete idiot on the road. Fiddling with one does make it a damn sight easier to be so though.

During my recent trip I had two of what I would call incidents: in Germany a car pulled out in front of the car in front of me while said car and myself were overtaking the other car doing round about 170kph. I was surprised, because normally in my experience German drivers on the autobahns are very good, eg anticipating extremely well and keeping a careful watch on both the traffic ahead and the potential upcoming traffic behind. I put the incident down to the fact that some drivers just hate people who drive quickly, and this driver did not want to wait the 20 seconds or so it would take to allow us to pass before being able to pull out and overtake the truck in front of him. The traffic situation was not busy, with few cars on the road well outside rush hour.

The other incident was actually when back in Holland: a car nearly T-Boned me because he failed to give me right of way in a situation where I actually had it. I was forced to slam on the brakes because I was expecting to have right of way. In passing the other car once the road situation had cleared the other driver did not look at me, nor did he indicate in any way that he had been aware of the error he had made in leading me to put the incident down to the other driver being a complete moron. The road situation was a roadworks area with me on the main stream and him merging in.

None of the situations involved phones, but I did see people using them on the roads some of which drove normally, some erratically. It is actually illegal to use a mobile in a car in Holland without a hands-free kit, and using one to text while driving -even though I have done this myself at times- is stupid imo: it divides your attention from what you were doing in the first place. This doesn't just count for driving a car, but for anything else, except perhaps having a poo. I find that texting while poohing is strangely beneficial.

 

[Garaen]

Me think focus on texting stupid.

Get it? Good.

Why is an advert focusing on texting being a cause of crashes wrong? Of course shit drivers cause accidents but so does texting - the advert attempts to highlight the danger of texting which many people don't see in an attempt to reduce the number of accidents.

It's similar to saying, why focus on drink driving campaigns, only shit drivers crash.

 

[kiliarien]

Yeah, just don't reply me anymore. Better off like that since you start the "lalala" act every time.

Same goes for anyone who can't keep civil and doesn't want to throw in some arguments, just don't bother.

Actually, most people stop because you bore us to death, not because you win an argument. You're the forum version of Swine Flu; nobody wants you and tries their best to avoid you but you just keep appearing nonetheless.

FYI; i don't need to have a drivers lisence to have an opinion, just like the rest of you don't need to know X to comment on Y.

No you don't - but it makes your opinion less valid than it was to begin with (if that is even possible). So you shouldn't get all 'waa waa' when people argue against you because they have experience you don't in a certain (and very mundane matter).

 

[tris-]

drinking and driving is a good idea if you pay attention when you need to pay attention.
on the phone at the same time is also cool, as long as you pay attention when you need to. while youre at it, have a little sleep when you dont need to pay attention.

all these arguments would be great if it was possible to know WHEN you need to pay attention.

sadly we arnt psychic and cannot see in to the future, so best pay attention all the time.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Why is an advert focusing on texting being a cause of crashes wrong? Of course shit drivers cause accidents but so does texting - the advert attempts to highlight the danger of texting which many people don't see in an attempt to reduce the number of accidents.

It's similar to saying, why focus on drink driving campaigns, only shit drivers crash.

Exactly. The point is in the context of it being so over the top.

A "don't text and drive" commer is ok and good, this is over the top by a mile.

Hope that's clear.

Actually, most people stop because you bore us to death, not because you win an argument. You're the forum version of Swine Flu; nobody wants you and tries their best to avoid you but you just keep appearing nonetheless.

What now? I never spoke anything about winning an argument, i told YOU to stop replying me if you can't keep the anti- speech, insults etc away and discuss things.

Should be clear enough.

drinking and driving is a good idea if you pay attention when you need to pay attention.
on the phone at the same time is also cool, as long as you pay attention when you need to. while youre at it, have a little sleep when you dont need to pay attention.

all these arguments would be great if it was possible to know WHEN you need to pay attention.

sadly we arnt psychic and cannot see in to the future, so best pay attention all the time.

Fact is, good drivers don't have to pay attention on every second. Incompetent drivers crash.

Most drivers change CDs, check maps, find the waterbottle and a numerous other tasks that "avert the attention" and don't crash. Why? Because they know WHEN to do so.

They don't do it on a busy intersection, or in the middle of the city etc.

 

[CorNokZ]

Fact is, good drivers don't have to pay attention on every second. Incompetent drivers crash.

Most drivers change CDs, check maps, find the waterbottle and a numerous other tasks that "avert the attention" and don't crash. Why? Because they know WHEN to do so.

They don't do it on a busy intersection, or in the middle of the city etc.

You might have had a drivers license for 40 years and never been in an accident.. But the moment you pull out your cell for the billionth time to send your 18y old au-pair a dirty text, might be the time you kill yourself, or even worse, someone else! Those two seconds when you're not paying attention to the road and thinking of something else might be the two seconds it takes transforming from competent to incompetent...

When you hear ppl talk about their accident they usually say: "He came out of nowhere"

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

Toht,
Your comments in this thread can only be said to be moronic beyond comprehension...
Really, don't start if you know jack-shit of the subject.

 

[old.Tohtori]

You might have had a drivers license for 40 years and never been in an accident.. But the moment you pull out your cell for the billionth time to send your 18y old au-pair a dirty text, might be the time you kill yourself, or even worse, someone else! Those two seconds when you're not paying attention to the road and thinking of something else might be the two seconds it takes transforming from competent to incompetent...

When you hear ppl talk about their accident they usually say: "He came out of nowhere"

So when you drive, you pay attention to the road non stop, no matter what, 10-2 hands and all that?

Everyone should drive model robot style, or not at all?

Didn't think so.

Toht,
Your comments in this thread can only be said to be moronic beyond comprehension...
Really, don't start if you know jack-shit of the subject.

Well put, you obviously thought about that and felt that it's the appropriate contribution to the thread.

 

[Bugz]

I actually am getting slightly angered by the pure fkin stupidity he is displaying.

Wish he'd just fuck off from the forums tbh - discussion would be so much easier and nicer and more rewarding and and and!

 

[kiliarien]

Exactly. The point is in the context of it being so over the top.

A "don't text and drive" commer is ok and good, this is over the top by a mile.

Hope that's clear.

What now? I never spoke anything about winning an argument, i told YOU to stop replying me if you can't keep the anti- speech, insults etc away and discuss things.

Should be clear enough.

I'm replying to everyone, not just you - stop being an egotist. And what the hell is anti-speech?? Silence?? Stop making up words.

It has been proven time and time again that 'don't do this' adverts get you nowhere - shock advertising has worked and will continue to do so. As usual you're 'discussing' a pointless perspective because you like to be in the minority, and yet you have still failed to give one sound reason how incompetence is to blame. From a non-driver too.

Man up on this thread and stfu. You can't even claim to know how driving might affect your concentration span etc. etc.

Actually while you're at it Toht, just leave the FH forums please.

 

[CorNokZ]

So when you drive, you pay attention to the road non stop, no matter what, 10-2 hands and all that?

Everyone should drive model robot style, or not at all?

Didn't think so.

You're basically saying you don't really have to pay attention when driving, because it doesn't really seem like that big of a deal to you that people aren't paying attention in traffic

Oh Nemesis where art thou when needed the most?

 

[soze]

There have been Drink Driving, Driving on the Phone, Falling asleep at the wheel and Applying make up changing CD's ect this has been the cause of a few teen deaths in Wales so they have made an advert aimed at teens to target it.

Even driving down a 100% flat and straight road still needs your full attention the closest i have ever come to an accident was when my car got blown on to the opposite side of the road luck there was no traffic at the time but one hand on the wheel could have cost me.

 

[Zenith.UK]

Doesn't mean that i'm saying what the commercial is about, it means that i think it's more about stupid drivers then texting that accidents occur.

No, you're being contrary for the sake of it and the number of responses picking up on it shows that the majority of people don't care for your opinion in this matter.

It's really simple. Once you drop your handbrake, your hands do not touch your phone. If you do, you're committing an offence under the Road Safety Act 2006 and are liable for a £60 fine and 3 penalty points on your licence.

I have to have my phone on while I'm driving so work can call me in transit. I ignore the call, let it run to voicemail and pull over at *MY* convenience. Work absolutely hate me ignoring their calls, and I've had some colleagues actually say,
"Why don't you just answer the bloody phone?"

My response is always the same,
"Are you telling me to break the law?"
Work won't pay for a handsfree set, so they're expecting me to get one at *my* expense for *their* convenience? I don't think so!

The YT clip is only part of the video. There's another section in the hospital where the grandmother of that kid (the one saying "Mummy! Daddy! Wake up!") goes off on one about the young woman driving. When she finally runs out of steam, the other people quietly reply "Our daughter was that driver". The whole video is shows that there's a hell of a lot more damage done than mangling a couple of cars.

The drink/drive campaign that used Mungo Jerry's "In The Summertime" had the biggest impact on me.
YouTube - Don't Drink & Drive - In The Summertime - UK Advert

This one is short, sweet and to the point...
YouTube - Drink driving pub crash road safety advert


Finally this seatbelt awareness advert hit home because of the deadpan way the narrator says "after crushing her death, he sat back down".
YouTube - Julie - TV advert THINK campaign - Always wear a seat belt

 

[old.Tohtori]

Since last three replies to me were the basic mere "you're just doing x", nothing to reply here. PEople should atleast try to reply to something i say.

I've given my opinion, if someone wants to discuss it, reply accordingly.