dont let crafters kid you

[moo_work]

dont let crafters kid you about how hard it is for such little gain ever again (except SC/alc)

you guys make a MINT from trinketing !


<diss & cuss>

 

[kathal_tdd]

Sure
/slap

 

[Apathy]

It is very true. And if you do it cunningly with tailoring, you can get 1000+ for suitable trinketing for under 7plat.

http://strategy.guardiansofvalor.com/Strategy/PharaohTrinketingGuide.asp

But I think the hassle and expense of MP orders is gripeworthy.

Ding 568 AC! (Yes, I started before I read that guide. Doh.)

a.
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[Draylor]

Heh

Typical clueless Moo

 

[nerve]

Originally posted by moo_work
dont let crafters kid you about how hard it is for such little gain ever again (except SC/alc)

you guys make a MINT from trinketing !


<diss & cuss>

Do it yourself and then report again nob. Oh and don't choose the easy tailor one, no no, go weapon, armour or fletching...

Have fun...

Nerve, Legendary Weaponcrafter (semi-retired crafter, mainly thanx to nice comments like the above)

 

[moo_work]

hmm so about 2 - 2.5 plat getting to 800 tailor/metalwork

then make about 4 plat in 3 hours salvaging and trinketing the crap drops from barrows (about 5 backpacks of metal crap stuff) which i had anyway from pleving.

and then theres df stuff when you aint got your own drops to salvage:

bought 150 diamond seals (1.5 plat), which is 10 longswords at 100 asterite bars each sword, trinket and sell at just about 2.2g per bar so thats 1000 bars*2.2g = 2200g so thats a profit of about 700g and not a single mob killed.


do 450 seals and you make 2.1 plat profit - and you've payed for training up your skill already.

 

[moo_work]

Originally posted by Draylor
Heh

Typical clueless Moo

least I can tell the difference between a dwarf healer and a dwarf skald dray.

 

[kathal_tdd]

Do it yourself and then report again nob. Oh and don't choose the easy tailor one, no no, go weapon, armour or fletching...

Fletching is easy too.
Its WC that is the really biach.

 

[nerve]

Originally posted by kathal_tdd
Fletching is easy too.
Its WC that is the really biach.

Lol, being Legendary WC I kinda know that ;-)

But I was speaking moneywise mate, and there Fletching, WC and AC are all round the 17 plat mark to reach 1000.

Tailor is 7 Plat, and can be done wherever you please...

Oh and Moo, you're only talking cash, don't forget the time to get to 1000 (and the fact that higher tier materials were only available in Excal or Beno a few patches ago, go figure.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by moo_work
hmm so about 2 - 2.5 plat getting to 800 tailor/metalwork

Firstly I'd like to point out that you are not talking about crafters here, you are talking about trinketers. There's a huge difference between someone who only takes up crafting to get the metalwork for trinketting and someone who actually makes stuff.

Originally posted by moo_work

then make about 4 plat in 3 hours salvaging and trinketing the crap drops from barrows (about 5 backpacks of metal crap stuff) which i had anyway from pleving.

Okay, so you spent say 12 (?) hours plevelling in the barrows to get a vault full of stuff worth 4 plat when trinketted up, taking a further 3 hours to do this.

So either you do it yourself and make 4plat, or you pay someone a percentage to do it for you, and you get 3plat (for your time killing the mobs), he gets 1plat (for the 3 hours he's got to sit at the forge).

Originally posted by moo_work

and then theres df stuff when you aint got your own drops to salvage:

bought 150 diamond seals (1.5 plat), which is 10 longswords at 100 asterite bars each sword, trinket and sell at just about 2.2g per bar so thats 1000 bars*2.2g = 2200g so thats a profit of about 700g and not a single mob killed.

do 450 seals and you make 2.1 plat profit - and you've payed for training up your skill already.

The same goes with seals. A trinketer takes a percentage of their value for the time it'll take him to trinket the stuff.

450 seals is 6 hours of solid trinketting for that 2plat, the guy who had the sels walked away with 4.5plat for his time hunting (plus the cash/sell-loot drops, plus the exp)

 

[Draylor]

Originally posted by moo_work
least I can tell the difference between a dwarf healer and a dwarf skald dray.

?

 

[Draylor]

Originally posted by Pin
he gets 1plat (for the 3 hours he's got to sit at the forge)

1 plat for 3 hours trinketing? Hmmmm theres better ways to make more gold in that time.

Salvaging diamond seals was worthwhile for profit before SI. Now its for the 800 metalskill hinge-bots only. The profit from salvaging tier 10 materials (which will be used to make stuff, not hinged) is far better.

 

[old.LandShark]

I resent being called a hinge-bot
Can't deny it, of course. Can trinket up to & including netherium, but arcanium is beyond me. Atm I have made approximately 7p from trinketing the various asterite-salvage drops from PLing a char from 43->46. And no, that's NOT counting non-salvagable drops. I've spent that.

Originally posted by moo_work
dont let crafters kid you about how hard it is for such little gain ever again (except SC/alc)

you guys make a MINT from trinketing !


<diss & cuss>

Don't let crafters kid you blah blah blah make a MINT from trinketing

Mong.

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by moo_work
dont let crafters kid you about how hard it is for such little gain ever again (except SC/alc)

you guys make a MINT from trinketing !


<diss & cuss>

well then the crafers should stop crafting and only trinket, as thats the only way they get money. Besides they spend hours making the MP item for you and then you give them back the cost off it? Sorry but i doubt any crafter wouldnt want some kind off reward for it back and generally helping out your realm is a reward, but not big enough to do something boring like crafting.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Draylor
1 plat for 3 hours trinketing? Hmmmm theres better ways to make more gold in that time.

Salvaging diamond seals was worthwhile for profit before SI. Now its for the 800 metalskill hinge-bots only. The profit from salvaging tier 10 materials (which will be used to make stuff, not hinged) is far better.

exactly... which is why I (generally) stopped doing that aaaages ago. The only trinketting I do now is netherium stuff gathered from my own powerlevelling (or occasionally do asterite+ stuff for guildies if they have a load of crap to get rid of). The arcanium goes into weapons I make, but really it doesn't go very far. 40 bars of arcanium needed per attempt at a level 51 weapon, so over 200 arcanium per 99%, etc.



Anyway, powerlevelling a char 1-50 (in the right places, not Barrows, ffs) you'll get ~10-15plat in cash and merchant loot, and about the same again in salvagable loot.

 

[Draylor]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
I resent being called a hinge-bot

Thats a shame, since its exactly what Landshark is Its not as if you/anyone actually plays it as a friar more than once in a month

 

[Draylor]

Originally posted by Pin
The arcanium goes into weapons I make, but really it doesn't go very far.

Which for lazy crafters who really cant be bothered making much these days (ie ME) is a very good thing. I can use up salvaged arcanium very quickly without spending hours at that damn forge.

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Draylor
Which for lazy crafters who really cant be bothered making much these days (ie ME) is a very good thing. I can use up salvaged arcanium very quickly without spending hours at that damn forge.

I would fall into this category... then occasionally I get pursuaded to make a MP weapon thinking there's a reasonable chance the 1k arcanium I have in my vault would get me through it.... Then 5 hours and 10k arcanium later it finally pops out and I now have 3 vaults full of bloody 99% weapons again :doh:

 

[old.LandShark]

Originally posted by Draylor
Thats a shame, since its exactly what Landshark is Its not as if you/anyone actually plays it as a friar more than once in a month

Wtf?!

A week ago I was 41, I'm 46.5 atm :[

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
Wtf?!

A week ago I was 41, I'm 46.5 atm :[

= 6-8 hours

 

[parlain]

Re: Re: dont let crafters kid you

Originally posted by driwen
well then the crafers should stop crafting and only trinket, as thats the only way they get money. Besides they spend hours making the MP item for you and then you give them back the cost off it? Sorry but i doubt any crafter wouldnt want some kind off reward for it back and generally helping out your realm is a reward, but not big enough to do something boring like crafting.

Erm why do you think there's like over hundred Legendary Crafters out there and only a handful of them are active...

 

[Demolay]

<< does Alc for cost of ingredients - noone asked me to craft just kinda handy

 

[Mishy]

Originally posted by moo_work

you guys make a MINT from trinketing !


<diss & cuss>

yeh.... and?

 

[Driwen]

Re: Re: Re: dont let crafters kid you

Originally posted by parlain
Erm why do you think there's like over hundred Legendary Crafters out there and only a handful of them are active...

my point is that if Moo wants any nice stuff made for him, he better pay with a profit. As they spend alot of time on it. Besides as it is now the prices for crafting are already low and he wants them even lower? Which would mean there would be no crafter around, as you dont get anything back for it anymore . So thats what i meant.

 

['Shy]

Re: Re: dont let crafters kid you

Originally posted by Mishy
yeh.... and?

Mishy 50 Mercenary
Legendary Weaponsmith 1065 - Inactive.

 

[Pin]

Re: Re: dont let crafters kid you

Originally posted by Mishy
yeh.... and?

givf glod!

 

[StormriderX]

Originally posted by moo_work
dont let crafters kid you about how hard it is for such little gain ever again (except SC/alc)

you guys make a MINT from trinketing !


<diss & cuss>

you = mong -_-

 

[old.LandShark]

Originally posted by Pin
= 6-8 hours

= the entirety of the time I've spent in daoc
Plus, I soloed 44.0->45.5, so... neener neener!

edit: update.... 800g of loot and 400 diamond bars richer. Can some hib come trinket this diamond for me pls? :|

 

[Pandemic]

i'm uber rich

Pandemic richest on Excalibur server Ac 1158 on strike

 

[Gorb]

Originally posted by moo_work
hmm so about 2 - 2.5 plat getting to 800 tailor/metalwork

then make about 4 plat in 3 hours salvaging and trinketing the crap drops from barrows (about 5 backpacks of metal crap stuff) which i had anyway from pleving.

and then theres df stuff when you aint got your own drops to salvage:

bought 150 diamond seals (1.5 plat), which is 10 longswords at 100 asterite bars each sword, trinket and sell at just about 2.2g per bar so thats 1000 bars*2.2g = 2200g so thats a profit of about 700g and not a single mob killed.


do 450 seals and you make 2.1 plat profit - and you've payed for training up your skill already.

Well by all means start to craft immediately. Your skill doesn't actually go to 800 in a day or 2, if it takes as long as armorcrafting, be prepared for nice long crafting sessions.