Two blocks is fucking massive in manhatten.
We have a prayer room at work, guess that's a mosque too.
What the fuck is with all this, 'its not a mosque its an islamic centre with a prayer room' stuff? Its a building dedicated to Islam, you're really getting in to symantics imo. Sure they call it the Ground Zero Mosque because its more head line grabbing than Ground Zero Islamic Centre but that dosen't stop it being what it is.
Secondly, it was close enough to ground zero to get hit by fucking plane wreckage.
Thirdly, the guys behind it specifically wanted to build it near Ground Zero. They probably would have built it nearer if somewhere was available/affordable.
Saying its not 'The Ground Zero Mosque' is pointless. Accept that it is a mosque for all the important intents and purposes, accept that it is near enough to Ground Zero for its positioning to be meaningful to both sides and then justify it. Stop deflecting the important debate.
Fox news - 1, rational thought - 0.
Also pez, the attack was by al-queda, not the entire Islamic faith. Aterrorist group that uses religion for it's own ends.
Can we agree to call it the Islamic Community Centre Which Includes and Area that Was Previously Called a Mosque but is Now Being Called a Prayer Room and Which is Very Close To But Not On The Site Of Ground Zero But Was Close Enough to Be Hit By Wreckage From the Plane That Crashed In To The Towers?
Yes Fox and the right have blown it up but that dosen't stop it being insensitive and in my view foolish.
The genie is out of the bottle, it can't be put back in and trying to pretend it dosen't exist is futile.
One of the best pages currently on wikipedia is about this subject. Because its so sensitive almost every statement has about 5 sources backing it up. Have a read and see waht you think.
The attack was in the name of Islam whether you care to accept it or not. How are you surprised when a proportion of the attacked are upset when a building is built in the name of islam on the doorstep of the attack.
Can we agree to call it the Islamic Community Centre Which Includes and Area that Was Previously Called a Mosque but is Now Being Called a Prayer Room and Which is Very Close To But Not On The Site Of Ground Zero But Was Close Enough to Be Hit By Wreckage From the Plane That Crashed In To The Towers?
Yes Fox and the right have blown it up but that dosen't stop it being insensitive and in my view foolish.
I understand why some Americans are upset about it but I genuinely think that if it weren't for all the negative propaganda that they wouldn't be anywhere near as angry.
Moving past that I think "tough shit", if you're suggesting that Islam is responsible for 9/11 as opposed to extremists then you deserve to be outraged and annoyed. Backing down from putting the community centre there would be a form of admission that Islam is responsible for the attacks and that's just bullshit. I hate to be the one defending religion as I despise all forms of it, but these extremists were to Islam as the KKK are to Christianity, people don't seem to have trouble keeping those two separate.
I agree completely. Its a very strong arguement but as someone who has looked in to the history of park 51/The Corboda Initiative and looking at the picture I posted I think you lose a lot of credibility by flat out saying its not Ground Zero its not a Mosque.
In my view it makes you sound as bad as Fox by just repeating stock phrases without looking in to it.
I don´t see the point. Islam didn´t bomb the towers, Al-Qaeda did.