do any archers still play regularly?

[Glottis_Xanadu]

Not insanely bitter though But a day of being owned by SB will do that to a person...

Problem with archers is that despite arrows having a +bonus to hit, Mythic in their eternal wisdom has taken that into account, so the end result is that we have no to-hit bonus on our arrow shots. Silly, I should get that bonus for buying those expensive arrows. They were a major cost when I was around lvl 20-40.
Buying lower lvl arrows means you are gimping yourself, which also seems a bit stupid to me.

If we assume Mythic is dumb enough to keep See Hidden...
I feel all the three archer classes should get reduced timer on camo as their stealth spec increases, for example 30 stealth spec means 8 min timer, 35 spec 7 min timer, till 50 with a 5 min timer. And the chance to spend RA's to reduce it by a minute per RA lvl. Minimum of 2-3 minutes, so there is plenty of chance for an SB to find us (auto camo would be nice indeed...)
I also feel archers should get a chance to pierce (p)bt. After lvl 30, we could get a 15% chance to pierce pbt on a shot, lvl 35 bow spec 20%, working up to 35% if 50 spec in bow skill. Again, RA's could take this to 50%, so an archer with 50 bowspec could get to 50%, but most likely most scouts will have 40 bow, so would get 40% or 35% pierce rate.
Other option is to give styles to higher bow spec, such as longbow, or volley, or maybe a bleed style, reduce attack-speed, or even a snare (ie legshot). This would improve our rvr skill maybe too much though, and I do not want get anuber class to only get nerfed again.
Regards, Glottis

 

[old.CrazyMuppet]

Good ideas glottis!

These are actually the idea's you should post on the TL forum. Oakleif is the TL for scouts, and he listens to people, and he's currently reviewing scouts together with Mythic devs...

I play an asassin too and see-hidden is indeed a powerful tool... having camo-timer shortened according to stealth spec sounds very logical.

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

Yep, I do post on Cristshot forum also, Oaklief has GREAT patience. I could not imagine having to work with Mythic dev's, as I think it would be like talking to a brick wall. Something Oaklief has been doing for a year now
But I believe Oaklief is pushing for better melee skills, like being on the hybrid table, instead of the rogue. Not sure though. I do not feel that is the solution, I do not want to melee damnit
Regards, Glottis

 

[bishibosh]

Originally posted by findannain
just started a ranger and i must say i love it

give it time

 

[bishibosh]

oh btw, patch 1.60 is adding stealth abilities (detect hidden/climb walls/danger sense/safe fall) to minstrel , but not archers! lol, why the fek would a mincer want to climb a wall, they have no effective way of killing ppl inside, its total bs. Since when were musicians supposed to be stealthy neway, i thought that the whole idea was being noisey
but dont worry scouts.. guess what, longshot is being lowered to 6 spec pts! wooow no more nerfs now we can buy longshot, which is "very good"

 

[Kagato.]

http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50255

 

[Hit ^_^]

whit cammo=gimps
before cammo=overpowered.

 

[eragrim]

Reading the link above was intresting indeed, but how are you able to target a buffbot while he is inside mtk?

Does he need to walk a round first to become targetted?

In that case the idea is rather un effective.

 

[Tranquil-]

This link tells you what Volley is.

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=46121892&replies=51

 

[bishibosh]

well thats great but the archer must get to the portal first, past the assassins that make up 50% or more of players on excal lol

 

[xplo]

My usual day in emain:
Come out of pk, sb attacks on the turn left of the pk.
You are hit for 300ish dmg (phew missed PA)
You slam, you prepare your shot, you are hit for 900ish dmg, you die.
O wait a second sb :/

Still 1.3 levels to 50 then i'm playing my enchanter on prydwen and will only bring my scout out if:
-there are keep/relic raids
-events.
-Archers get unnerfed.

I would like to see crit shot piercing pbt (like PA), longshot and volley in the bow spec line, get an instant speed buff like the hunters.

 

[loxleyhood]

Its hard going, certainly, and we're forced to group. But I actually prefer grouping most the time, and in a good group im rather rocking. In a group with a deligent cleric I was able to fight off and kill 3 nightshades, but things like that don't happen very often.

Scouts need love, and are borderline broken, but I still wouldn't play anyway else.

 

[Jergiot]

Originally posted by loxleyhood
Its hard going, certainly, and we're forced to group. But I actually prefer grouping most the time, and in a good group im rather rocking. In a group with a deligent cleric I was able to fight off and kill 3 nightshades, but things like that don't happen very often.

Scouts need love, and are borderline broken, but I still wouldn't play anyway else.

THEN U ARE A FOOL! =P

 

[skile]

Originally posted by Hit ^_^
whit cammo=gimps
before cammo=overpowered.

Heh, there was actually a month or two when archers on EU had no cammo and assasins had See Hidden.

But removing see hidden and true sight doesn't necessarily make archers overpowered. Esp with the miss and fumble nerfs. Can't see how archers get overpowered by just removing see hidden & ts atm.

Just can't see it.

 

[Trinilim]

Originally posted by skile


Heh, there was actually a month or two when archers on EU had no cammo and assasins had See Hidden.

But removing see hidden and true sight doesn't necessarily make archers overpowered. Esp with the miss and fumble nerfs. Can't see how archers get overpowered by just removing see hidden & ts atm.

Just can't see it.

Roll and infil and get see hidden, then maybe you'll "see it"

 

[skile]

I'll see how easy it will be to kill :\.

 

[burglash]

i play my scout to a lvl 48 gimped one that dont want to exp cuz its too boring..