[DISCUSSION] Prydwen Down

[Cylian]

news about a maintenance on thursday, not one word about Prydwen

 

[Cromcruaich]

If you ask me the problems experienced on prydwen was due to a malicious duping attack.

They had to shut down prydwen to resolve the results of that attack, but took the decision not to shut down other european servers even thou they were at risk of being similiarly targetted.

In the meantime they contacted mythic's developers to find a fix to prevent the specific exploit that was used in the prydwen duping attack, hence the rather longer than apparently necessary downtime on prydwen.

This patch is what is infact being applied to all EU servers, i suspect including prydwen which i suspect will be up tommorow with the rest of the servers at noon.

To me, nothing else seems to provide an adequate explanation of current events.

And I know this doesnt tie in with the official explanations so far.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Tin Foil Hats!

 

[Cromcruaich]

Tin Foil Hats!

It's true i tell ya!

 

[Kami]

If you ask me the problems experienced on prydwen was due to a malicious duping attack.

They had to shut down prydwen to resolve the results of that attack, but took the decision not to shut down other european servers even thou they were at risk of being similiarly targetted.

In the meantime they contacted mythic's developers to find a fix to prevent the specific exploit that was used in the prydwen duping attack, hence the rather longer than apparently necessary downtime on prydwen.

This patch is what is infact being applied to all EU servers, i suspect including prydwen which i suspect will be up tommorow with the rest of the servers at noon.

To me, nothing else seems to provide an adequate explanation of current events.

And I know this doesnt tie in with the official explanations so far.

Nice conspiracy theory lol. I suppose it could just be they're applying a fix to all servers to prevent the same thing happening to them that took Prydwen out? Hmm that's a sensible suggestion too!

 

[Cromcruaich]

Could be, though it doesnt add up that all EU servers have been running happily on the current 1.75 code base without this problem rearing its ugly head elsewhere.

 

[Righthandof]

ive just read this from Xalin:
"Q: If we get free days as compensation are you going to give them to all your customers or just the Prydwen players.
A: It is almost impossible for us to determine who is a "Prydwen player" and who isn't. I mean where do you draw the line? And giving free days to everyone might feel unfair for the Prydwen players that were most affected. Therefor we're also looking into other ways to compensate you for the downtime. Think of heightened xpgain for a short period for example."

the thread is closed so i reply here.
kiss my azz, i dont have new chars, and i dont want any, i would have been rvring all the time, so i missed fun & realm points <- dont dare to give me exp instead of these

 

[Cylian]

Update:

We're currently testing Prydwen internally and will continue to do this all evening. There will be news up on the official site later today as well.

soooo, what's the plan for tomorrow morning ?

 

[Poox]

<Insert what it says in my signature here>


They say there testing it tonight.. so it might be up tommorow morning

the day i go back to school!

 

[Outlander]

ask them to keep it down till your off again then

I for one am glad to hear of any progress

 

[tallwiz]

pulled this from another thread that was started...

Well they are cleaning up damaged save files...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by brad
There will naturally be compensation to Prydwen players for this unavailability and we are continuing to do everything that we can to get the server restarted as soon as possible.

How long do they expect this problem to take to be solved? like is it 1 more day or another week.

just would be nice if we could be told an estimated date/time it will be back up. Because they know what the problem is so surely they will have a rough idea when prydwen will be back up right?

just wanted to know when ruffly things will be back to normal.



Well their post said that they are currently cleaning up several hundreds of damaged characters save files. They could probably give an estimated time of when that job will be done. But I think they dont want to risk beeing wrong. But if all goes well with cleaning up the files it should only be a matter of days or day not week/weeks!

/Charmangle


my reply:
i reckon after so long, they think we wont notice if we are short of cash or an arti.... or even a character....
watch this space if anything of mine is gone..... and it dont get replaced....
:touch:

 

[xxManiacxx]

such whining. I lost quite a few items and was quite mad when it happened. But now I don´t really care. it´s only a game.

 

[Belomar]

Yay, another gem by Tallwiz.

 

[PozZ!]

[31-08-2005] News about Prydwen

The database has been purged of the corrupted files that have been discovered and Prydwen was restarted today for internal testing. We will keep you informed of the results of these checks in the next news concerning the situation on the server. We apologise once more to all players who have been deprived of their characters since last week.


The latest news on the offical site

 

[Truflight]

Can't wait for clustering, Pryd being down is the best thing that's happened in DAOC for ages.

/SLAP

 

[Blaien]

They say there testing it tonight.. so it might be up tommorow morning
the day i go back to school!

At least all of your homework might be done now.

 

[Shanaia]

Yay, another gem by Tallwiz.

He's great isn't he? He makes all this worth it really. I can feed my hunger for dumb and unfounded flames for months over this Prydwen crap just by searching for posts by him!

Thanks GOA!

 

[Belomar]

You can guess where I got my inspiration for the fourth strip in my cartoon. (Shameless plug, I know. )

 

[Doink-666]

I blame all of this on George Bush tbh

 

[myris]

aint pydwen suppose b up at 12cet?

 

[Frust]

aint pydwen suppose b up at 12cet?

They havent said when its due to come back up. Some people thought it would come back up with the other servers after down. I was more hoping...

 

[semanon]

If you ask me the problems experienced on prydwen was due to a malicious duping attack.

They had to shut down prydwen to resolve the results of that attack, but took the decision not to shut down other european servers even thou they were at risk of being similiarly targetted.

In the meantime they contacted mythic's developers to find a fix to prevent the specific exploit that was used in the prydwen duping attack, hence the rather longer than apparently necessary downtime on prydwen.

This patch is what is infact being applied to all EU servers, i suspect including prydwen which i suspect will be up tommorow with the rest of the servers at noon.

To me, nothing else seems to provide an adequate explanation of current events.

And I know this doesnt tie in with the official explanations so far.

dupe ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dp, dyp)
n.
1.An easily deceived person.
2.A person who functions as the tool of another person or power.

tr.v. duped, dup·ing, dupes
To deceive (an unwary person). See Synonyms at deceive.

 

[Shanaia]

You can guess where I got my inspiration for the fourth strip in my cartoon. (Shameless plug, I know. )

Host it somewhere else Belo it's out of bandwith

 

[Belomar]

I did, take a look here.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

If you ask me the problems experienced on prydwen was due to a malicious duping attack.

Cause and effect please. Cause: Server is unstable and desychnronized, Effect: DB gets corrupt and some stuff gets duplicated and not duping as cause and corrupt DB as effect.

I played the morning when the first issues came, there were 10-30 seconds long lag windows for all people on the server and I doubt anyone was doing an attack to screw the server.

 

[Puppet]

Cause and effect please. Cause: Server is unstable and desychnronized, Effect: DB gets corrupt and some stuff gets duplicated and not duping as cause and corrupt DB as effect.

I played the morning when the first issues came, there were 10-30 seconds long lag windows for all people on the server and I doubt anyone was doing an attack to screw the server.

Well, im in no way an expert, but both can be causes and effects. You can get an unstable server because the DB is corrupted due to malicious hacking aswell obv.

I dunno how we as normal players can see if a server gets hacked.

However, conspiracy-theories are always fun, the day we went down I launched one on IRC already: Prydwen went down to use the server Prydwen uses for the French-cluster (who clustered happily when Pryd. went down). They ordered new hardware but the mailboy dropped it on the floor due to frogs on the ground. He slipped, new server broke --> Prydwen down longer.

 

[Tafaya Anathas]

I dunno how we as normal players can see if a server gets hacked.

When 2-3 Apocalypse and 2-3 Legion wandering around apkE in OF you are not far from truth if you think server is hacked

 

[Fana]

When 2-3 Apocalypse and 2-3 Legion wandering around apkE in OF you are not far from truth if you think server is hacked

As far as i remember that wasnt a hacking, just someone that had gotten his grubby little hands on a GM client/login etc. Ofc, how he got those details is anyones guess.

 

[suelothvar]

there internaly testing, patched other servers, obviously now waiting for 3pm for mythic to tell them how to put server back online, or wich button turns it on :touch: !!!

 

[Tafaya Anathas]

As far as i remember that wasnt a hacking, just someone that had gotten his grubby little hands on a GM client/login etc. Ofc, how he got those details is anyones guess.

Iirc that was when we got new game passes