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Gil Gerard Dies At 82: Star Of ‘Buck Rogers’ Leaves Posthumous Message For Fans

UPDATED with message from Gerard: Gil Gerard, the handsome hero of early-Eighties TV hit Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, died after a battle with cancer this morning in hospice with his wife at his side. He was 82. The news was announced by his wife, Janet Gerard, on social media. After sharing...
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DaGaffer said:
Definitely one where you have to separate the art from the artist IMHO.
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If it's the bit in the article where he effectively said he was taken down by a media hit, I could believe him. But then that's all that was said in an obituary so...

Edit: Cursory dig: Dilbert comic strip dropped by US media over creator's racist tirade

...people were asked to agree or disagree with the phrase: "It's OK to be white."

26% [of black respondents] disagreed

Mr Adams said that those that disagreed were a "hate group"
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I mean, that's a fair assessment. If 1 in 4 black americans think it's not ok to be white then that's crazy isn't it?

However, I visited Chicago many years ago and what really struck me, as I drove from downtown, out towards the suburbs, was the stark and obvious segregation into racial groups (once you left the centre). The white bit, then the spanish bit, then the black bit. I was running low on petrol and went into a petrol station in a black area and the mate who I was visiting told me I'd better not, but I ignored him. They shuttered the shop, made me pay for my petrol up front, then as I was filling two cars pulled up and a bunch of black guys got out looking like they were spoiling for a beating. It's one of a couple of times an impersonation of a chipper British attitude and a massive exaggeration of a dim English accent got me out of the shit.

So, for me, it looks like he was trying to prompt conversation and the press being the press during peak cultural marxism... In the UK, he'd absolutely have faced prosecution for a hate crime.

Thankfully the UK's racial issues aren't anywhere near as stark as they are in the States.
 
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Scouse said:
It's one of a couple of times an impersonation of a chipper British attitude and a massive exaggeration of a dim English accent got me out of the shit.
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Lucky you didn't need any acting ability then :p
 
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Scouse said:
I mean, that's a fair assessment. If 1 in 4 black americans think it's not ok to be white then that's crazy isn't it?
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The whole "it's OK to be white" thing was/is a meme used by white supremacist groups in the US. There's a fair chance a good proportion of those "not OK's" in the survey were responding to that, since the survey used the exact phrase.

Adams then jumped all over it and torched his career. He didn't have to do that, the animus was obviously already there, and subsequent events where he went full MAGA, just revealed his true colours.

Yes, there are black racists in America, and yes the segregation you described is definitely there, I've observed the same thing; but I suspect if you asked white people something negative about black people in an anonymous survey, you'd get at least the same 25% response, and there are a lot more white people than black people, and a lot more white people in positions of power to act on those views.
 
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DaGaffer said:
Yes, there are black racists in America, and yes the segregation you described is definitely there, I've observed the same thing; but I suspect if you asked white people something negative about black people in an anonymous survey, you'd get at least the same 25% response, and there are a lot more white people than black people, and a lot more white people in positions of power to act on those views.
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There's a few things here and whilst I don't disagree with your last statement there's some other stuff:

"Suspect". I'd love to see a proper scientific survey. But I suspect it's very different.

I met a girl, a white American girl, in Vietnam. Travelled with her for a few days (before she pitched for a threesome my missus, sadly, wasn't up for). She told me that by-and-large she "hated white people".

The whole cultural marxism thing that's been going on since the late 80's/early 90's has worked to a large extent. But it's racial component has been aimed squarely at white people alone. The messaging has been off - and if we tell people they're victims and it's "white people'sfault" then it's not exactly going to dampen down racism in the non-white communities is it. In the same way that being anti-Israel (which is fair) is going to produce anti-jew hatred in some people...

The fact that white people tend to be in more positions of power is a whole separate argument and whilst there are links is completely irrelevant to the subject of who holds racist views.

The fact he torched his career (he said he knew he had) and went MAGA could well be because the MAGA movement is anti-woke, anti cultural marxist anti-DEI. And all those movements, which started off wantimg to address structural racism have become structurally racist themselves as they've developed, as identitiy politics dlinevitably does.

Even if he'd largely hate Trumpism it was the only game in town which was taking this seriously, so it could well be a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Admittedly, it'd be difficult to figure it out because his first, fair, statement - pointing out racism (even if ham-fistedly) - was jumped on by a polarised agenda-driven press. And every statement subsequent to that has to be viewed through that lens.

"Full-MAGA" is a label used to pigeonhole people and treat them like they're all just a group of racist idiots and bigots. But if we're honest that is palpably untrue and we all know it. But we don't want to engage.
 
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