DAOC: Bounty point changes

[Bahumat]

surely art raids etc WILl be done.

Not if the Police get a tip off...

 

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Not if the Police get a tip off...

so owned

 

[Azathrim]

I am so torn ...

I agree with Keitan that this change is good.

Yet his obvious lack of brain activity really makes it hard for me to have any sympathy for his point of view. Oh well, with that kind of language he'll probably get a quick and much needed holiday from FH soon.

 

[Keitan]

I am so torn ...

I agree with Keitan that this change is good.

Yet his obvious lack of brain activity really makes it hard for me to have any sympathy for his point of view. Oh well, with that kind of language he'll probably get a quick and much needed holiday from FH soon.

 

[Jeremiah]

I really dont see how it is much of a problem. If this system was implemented when TOA came out, people would have cheered. You'd have 2 ways of advancing, one for the RvR person, and one for the PvE person (Although I'm sure the RvR way would still be quicker )

I'm guessing that the majority of negativity is generated because people have spent lots of time doing the PvE to get to a certain level, and now theres a fast track being added.

No doubt countless hours have been spent on the ML raids, artifact camping and scroll farming, and now its all been made a whole lot easier. But this just highlights a point which MMO players seem to miss. The aim of playing games is to have fun, not to be uber. If you have spent so much time in the game that you feel aggrieved with these changes making everything quicker, then really you've spent too much. It shouldnt get to the stage that you feel you've wasted time, since these new changes are coming, since the reason to spend time on games is fun, and not achievement.

I think its a great thing for newbie players, and its a shrewd bit of buisness by mythic to get the TOA haters back too.

 

[Septima]

Got a question for the guys currently playing on US. Can you buy steps from ML's or only all the ML?
Asking that just because got some toons stuck in one grp step or bg step i missed but with all the rest done, so it would be a nice way to fill the holes on the missing steps. If it's all the ML it will not be as much as interesting, but still usefull.

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

Got a question for the guys currently playing on US. Can you buy steps from ML's or only all the ML?
Asking that just because got some toons stuck in one grp step or bg step i missed but with all the rest done, so it would be a nice way to fill the holes on the missing steps. If it's all the ML it will not be as much as interesting, but still usefull.

you can buy individual steps, or all of say ml1 together..

 

[Keitan]

Got a question for the guys currently playing on US. Can you buy steps from ML's or only all the ML?
Asking that just because got some toons stuck in one grp step or bg step i missed but with all the rest done, so it would be a nice way to fill the holes on the missing steps. If it's all the ML it will not be as much as interesting, but still usefull.

yes you can do that its really cool hehe

 

[Keitan]

you can buy individual steps, or all of say ml1 together..

you beat me by 7 seconds.. lol

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

you beat me by 7 seconds.. lol

i win

 

[Infanity]

Got a question for the guys currently playing on US. Can you buy steps from ML's or only all the ML?
Asking that just because got some toons stuck in one grp step or bg step i missed but with all the rest done, so it would be a nice way to fill the holes on the missing steps. If it's all the ML it will not be as much as interesting, but still usefull.

Individual steps aswell ;] Last page has full book.

 

[Keitan]

Individual steps aswell ;] Last page has full book.

3rd

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

3rd

no one ever claimed jamie to be fast.

 

[Darzil]

I don't mind alternative methods, unless raid leaders start skipping particular ML steps, in which case ML's become impossible without rvr. I hope most won't do this, though.

It's a little unforunate that I used to blow all my bounty points on wood to help the realm, whereas I could have bought items or ML's with it instead. I guess many never used to buy wood to help, and thus have the bounty points to spend.

On the other hand, I never had that many !

Darzil

 

[Infanity]

no one ever claimed jamie to be fast.

I always cum last.

 

[Thadius]

Would have tried it but US servers down again :/

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

I always cum last.

last place isnt good in a one man race though

 

[Davejohnson]

Like flim said, Pendragon is test only, so im not sure you are getting the thread title quite right.

This is more easymode bull that came from whiners who wanted PvE made easy. Now its too easy the older players have something new to whine about, including me.

EAthic really havnt thought this through, as some classes will have naturally higher BPs than others, seers for example have to group to gain BPs, which means they get less per kill than say a valk or an SB, doesnt mean they are less deserving but solo classes can make a shed load of BPs in a fraction of the time.

This also kills things for players who dont RvR as much as others, some (beleive it or not) are happy to PvE, but now the ML runs will be empty and casual group raids will be a thing of the past. I feel especially sorry for people on servers like Dyvet, who suffer with a lack of numbers on raids as it is, the PvEers will now have even more to consider when they think about leaving for pastures new.

At RR4 my shammy has 4k BPs, hes a BB, not much more, and 4K doesnt buy a lot, fortunately hes already ML10, but if I was to be starting the game now, I would be fecked for ML raids and not be able to compete properly in RVR without the ML toys.

Double edged this one, the hand giveth and the hand gets shoved up ya ass in the same action.

so people that like pvp should be forced to pve, but not the other way around?

and uh solo classes versus grouped ones... have you ever seen a solo guy rack in 20-30k/h night after night like the fgs?

 

[Infanity]

last place isnt good in a one man race though

I tend to keep my sex life with only one man, and that man being me

I prefer sex with ladys mate, Just depends what your into i guess Some like stealth zergs some dont, Some like men, Some dont ;d

 

[Thadius]

I tend to keep my sex life with only one man, and that man being me

I prefer sex with ladys mate, Just depends what your into i guess Some like stealth zergs some dont, Some like men, Some dont ;d

I like both, im greedy

 

[elbeek]

I am sure most will agree that the time achieving anything of use on a toon can be huge. What is wrong with providing the more "casual" player base with an incentive to play more? Surely it cannot hurt a "dying" game to have a fresh burst of newcomers so that all you oh so leet players can chase the holy rp.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

so people that like pvp should be forced to pve, but not the other way around?

PvP always has been and always will be part of the genre known as MMORPG, get used to it! Since the first MMOs this has always been the case, and still should be. My point was that those who choose to RvR constantly will now have it easy mode to gain the abilities the others who prefer PvE will now struggle with, especially with lack of numbers. RvR is not for everyone, some people simply dont have the time or dedication to devote to it, plain and simple. Dont turn this into another l33tist thread about PvEers being n00bs and dont deserve to play, thats just bollocks.

and uh solo classes versus grouped ones... have you ever seen a solo guy rack in 20-30k/h night after night like the fgs?

Yes I have, but also you earn more BPs for killing when solo than you do when grouped, seers have to group to get RPs, to give an example, a valk in my guild hits RR4 with 8k BPs, and a healer hits RR4 with 4K, so go figure.

 

[rampant]

this thread is filled with FH lurve - has someone turned back the clock to 14th February???

 

[megadave]

Would have tried it but US servers down again :/

2 days of my 14 day trial are wasted

 

[Golena]

It actually makes the gap between new players and old players just that much greater.

Now as a new player you'll almost never run into a none ML10, CL10, fully arti'ed player.
This stuff won't be getting done in PvE anywhere near as much, and to cap it off there's a load of items you can't get until you've RvR'ed for a while as well. Those first few RR's on a new char are going to be even more painful!

I'm sure PvE raids will get done occasionally, since it's still going to be the fastest way to ML10, just not with the regularity that they are now. What it might do is make them less zergy more small group things tho, which might be more of an entertaining challenge for them wanting to do them instead of /stick /sleep.

If it's a good idea or not will have to wait to see how it actually plays out. A big advantage I can see is if you miss a step due to a LD or bug, you don't need to do the entire raid over again..
Think it's too early to tell what kind of impact this is actually going to have tho.

 

[Septima]

Thanks dwera, keitan and infanity for fast awnsers

And wtf did you manage to turn this simple question in a sex one ?! :touch:

 

[Dutch_NS]

They should make ML's in pve easy enough for a duo/group ,except the .10 steps, remove abit agro getting to the steps on the way.

All people happy, the pve people and rvr, all fixed \o/

 

[GReaper]

I personally welcome the changes. The consequences of this patch might be a little be concerning though, only time will tell.

It would still be faster for players to join an ML raid over a weekend to get most of the battlegroup steps, and then use these NPCs to get credit for group steps on the more awkward MLs. For once the bounty points (a reward from your RvR effort) actually becomes useful!

It still takes some effort to get the bounty points, players won't instantly get the rewards unless they put in quite a lot of effort into RvR.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

They should make ML's in pve easy enough for a duo/group ,except the .10 steps, remove abit agro getting to the steps on the way.

All people happy, the pve people and rvr, all fixed \o/

That ruins the whole point of PvE in an MMO, itys supposed to be a social game, not full of soloers, the game you describe sounds more like counterstrike.

 

[Imgormiel]

That ruins the whole point of PvE in an MMO, itys supposed to be a social game, not full of soloers, the game you describe sounds more like counterstrike.

This quote does nothing more than please the counterstrike toobstrikers of DAoC. DAoC almost turned into cs had the gimps not gone home but still there is an element of those toobstrikers left here