Crazy American Cop

[Bahumat]

I wanna stab officer Ravioli in the gut, then pour some more ravioli all over his stupid face whilst screaming "I'm Mr Can Opener and it's your lucky day DUDE".

 

[Bahumat]

Nice. Too bad you don't get to act like that cop, since it's against the rules *ZING*
I wouldn't make a good cop, i don't have the patience to deal with people. Do you get one of those funny hats too then?

We make better ninja's imo

 

[Blackjack]

We make better ninja's imo

Waaay better.

 

[Ctuchik]

what a fcking dickhead tbh. Total abuse of power.

thats true in most european countries. but in USA yo have 7 kids out of 10 wearing some form of a weapon. the cops there cant really afford to be gentle.

they usually die or get shot at when they are.


besides, the second you start to argue with a cop about his dealings with you, ur pretty much out of rights. (this doesent quite sound right but my english vocabulary is quite restricted at times)

 

[Bahumat]

I always get worried when a member quotes himself "Mey" and looks like they're arguing a point. Curse all these "Mr Bean versus Tom Seleck" cases. I like to think a little bit of Magic helps.

 

[Mey]

Tbh if i was the cop i would of handled the situation differently but then i'm a different person. I don't think the way in which the cop acted was necessarily right, but i do however maintain the kid was an ass!

 

[Raven]

I am sure the whiny middle class skater boys parents will buy him a nice new one

 

[Blackjack]

I am sure the whiny middle class skater boys parents will buy him a nice new one

You'd be surprised at the money, you'll have to shell out for a good one

 

[kivik]

In that kind of setting. Cops don't just pick you up from the street and bash your head in. Call it wrong place, wrong time, whatever, but there's always a reason behind it.

Well you're right and wrong. Depends what you would define as 'a reason behind it' and I really wouldn't consider acting cheeky a valid reason to get pushed to the ground by a so called officer of the law. There is no reason at all to do that if the person in question is just being bit cheeky.

And lay off your talk about 'you wouldn't say that if they were chavs!' will you? Even if I keep telling you and even if others said no we would judge them the same way you'd still say you just don't expect us to admit it.

I've always stayed away from those 'UK-chav-bash-threads'. Actually I think it's quite strange, just like most brits seems to hold a bitter grudge towards frenchmen. Sometimes I wonder if I actually can take them seriously.

 

[Mey]

Well the French are lame!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well you're right and wrong. Depends what you would define as 'a reason behind it' and I really wouldn't consider acting cheeky a valid reason to get pushed to the ground by a so called officer of the law. There is no reason at all to do that if the person in question is just being bit cheeky.

And lay off your talk about 'you wouldn't say that if they were chavs!' will you? Even if I keep telling you and even if others said no we would judge them the same way you'd still say you just don't expect us to admit it.

I've always stayed away from those 'UK-chav-bash-threads'. Actually I think it's quite strange, just like most brits seems to hold a bitter grudge towards frenchmen. Sometimes I wonder if I actually can take them seriously.

There's that age old problem with the english word you, you can mean multiple overs there. So i should use the word yous.

I meant most of this community would hang any chav around, as you yourself might have noticed from the chav-bash threads. Don't think i said "you, as in, YOU would say it too!". Don't take that the wrong way. Even though, if everyone on this forum claimed they wouldn't want their heads bashed in if they were chavs, then there'd be some laughing to do.

Police officer often put you in place if you act "cheeky", why should the way the "cheeky" is potrayed be a basis for when they should or shouldn't?

Shut up, listen, do what the nice officer tells you and then take your video and complaint to the station. Slower, sure, but a working system.

 

[AngelHeal]

Sue them for what exactly?

it's america... you can think of anything.

 

[Mey]

It's just hit me, have any of you guys seen those police shows on TV (where they follow the police crew with a camera). They are forever arresting drunks for swearing at them (one warning then bang in with the submission lock). But none of you have moaned about this, why exactly is that? I mean it's pretty much the same situation save the age.

 

[old.Tohtori]

It's just hit me, have any of you guys seen those police shows on TV (where they follow the police crew with a camera). They are forever arresting drunks for swearing at them (one warning then bang in with the submission lock). But none of you have moaned about this, why exactly is that? I mean it's pretty much the same situation save the age.

Most people see "innocent teenagers just skating", but it's not the case now is it.

Also, it's about people comparing UK(and europe in general) police behaviour and laws to the american ones, i don't think they have THAT strict rules of engagement over there.

 

[Mey]

Well that's true (and i'm guility as anyone ).

I think (would have to go find a book in libary to be sure) in america most of its policing is done by sherif departments (atleast this is certainly the case in Canada).

 

[Marc]

What a wanker. Officer mc fatty thinks the kids bad mouthed him? fuck, he should come to the UK and see what the UK kids would say to him.

 

[DocWolfe]

Well it was just an expression as such, meaning both could've done things to make the situation better.

Anyway, my original point wasn't towards "if he abused power", even if the discussion went to that area and what the PERSONAL feeling towards it is, but more towards the key points i said.

Mainly, there wasn't much more then a bruised ego there.
The cop didn't act that bad. As in, assault an innocent little kid and beat him down.
And that in a different people-set, people wouldn't defend the kids.

I forgot to edit back there, that yes, the skateboard was on the ground. I was wrong in that(undisbutably), but the point of staying down still stands.

Guess one could say that the cop went through the routine, but with too much zeal, but also it didn't help that the kid tried to interrupt him and such.

Whole thing would've been over if the kid had answered "Yes i can hear now.", because after that, the little pingpong of the discussion went to hell.

Also think, that went an officer approaches ou, you don't hold your skateoard close and try not to give it.

Stop fucking arguing some crappy little points that mean nothing in the grand scheme of things - we've already established that the guy used unnecessary force to confiscate the skateboard. I mean as far as I can tell the group wasn't do anything wrong.

In the UK the police would generally confront the group of youths and ask them to move on, but the problem is that all they seem to do. I've seen a bunch of chavs drinking on the street the piggies confront them and then they move off and go and assault some people waiting at the bus stop about 200 meters down the road. I mean even I could tell that they were gonna go do something stupid, as chavs are a voilent bunch of *****.

But some 10 yr old kids on skateboards... dear me.

 

[Mey]

haha! More skate kids get pwned by a policeman! All avoidable if they would of just complied.

[youtubevid]aFUpa0OwlyU[/youtubevid]

 

[old.Tohtori]

Stop fucking arguing some crappy little points that mean nothing in the grand scheme of things - we've already established that the guy used unnecessary force to confiscate the skateboard. I mean as far as I can tell the group wasn't do anything wrong.

In the UK the police would generally confront the group of youths and ask them to move on, but the problem is that all they seem to do. I've seen a bunch of chavs drinking on the street the piggies confront them and then they move off and go and assault some people waiting at the bus stop about 200 meters down the road. I mean even I could tell that they were gonna go do something stupid, as chavs are a voilent bunch of *****.

But some 10 yr old kids on skateboards... dear me.

In the grand scheme? You mean YOUR grand scheme. The group was skateboarding, where they shouldn't, and not shutting up when talked to by an officer. Sure, not enough to throw a kid to the ground, but not "crispy" clean either.

About stopping with arguing, i'm not, i'm discussing my views on it and seeing what others think. Your "commanding" doesn't effect one bit.

10 year olds? They keep getting younger and younger. Soon it's "cop beats up 6 year old kid for having a lollipop".

So, you're defending those kids, and at the same time saying "cops should do more", i'm ocnfused here, do you want cops to do more or not?

 

[Mey]

Seel he falls into the category you were talking about early, i.e if it was chavs it would be fine.

 

[kivik]

haha! More skate kids get pwned by a policeman! All avoidable if they would of just complied.

What did they do? I couldn't hear some of it.

It's just hit me, have any of you guys seen those police shows on TV (where they follow the police crew with a camera). They are forever arresting drunks for swearing at them (one warning then bang in with the submission lock). But none of you have moaned about this, why exactly is that? I mean it's pretty much the same situation save the age.

Actually I was going to bring this up, but not because they abuse their power (they really do, in many of the clips) but actually to show how they acted when dealing with a man wearing a knife. They were like 8 cops just walking, following him and repeately telling him to put him down his knife for like 5 minutes. In the end they had to go disarm him with violence and eventually had to shoot him in the stomach when the man attacked one of the cops with his knife. Not a good ending but they certainly gave him time to think about it and acted accordingly to the mans response.

Now replace the knife with a fucking skateboard, how can you even fucking think about using force to take it?

But as you said, there is no doubt that those fuckers in 'Cops' abuse their power to hit people for the fun of it.

 

[Mey]

Um they gave him time cause a guy with a knife is alot harder to disarm perhaps?

 

[Eeben]

haha! More skate kids get pwned by a policeman! All avoidable if they would of just complied.

[youtubevid]aFUpa0OwlyU[/youtubevid]

 

[Himse]

The Kid did nothing wrong, the cop should realise kids speak like that and deal with the situation with a cool head.

Just cos the fat fuck didn't get his doughnuts, doesnt need to take it out on the kid at all.

I don't think what he was pulling them up for was wrong, i think the way he dealt with it was wrong.

Also, in the 2nd vid, i'd beat the shit outta that guy, tbh it would be worth going to juvi for.

 

[Lollie]

haha! More skate kids get pwned by a policeman! All avoidable if they would of just complied.

[youtubevid]aFUpa0OwlyU[/youtubevid]

unkess i'm mistaking at no point during that video did the kids get thier rights read to them?

 

[Huntingtons]

nope, officer not reading their rights is quite bad, especially when doing it 3-4 times at once (as in, the arrests wont stick)...

 

[old.Tohtori]

unkess i'm mistaking at no point during that video did the kids get thier rights read to them?

I think it's moot when you're arresting someone for a "while", usually the "i didn't get my rights" comes up only when there's a layer need, even if it SHOULD be read every time.

 

[Huntingtons]

on what grounds should he then arrest if not for having a chance of getting them prosecuted

 

[old.Tohtori]

on what grounds should he then arrest if not for having a chance of getting them prosecuted

Basically same as taking someone into a drunktank.

Off the streets, slap on the wrist, etc.

Every arrest doesn't have to lead to prosecution.

 

[Lollie]

Basically same as taking someone into a drunktank.

Off the streets, slap on the wrist, etc.

Every arrest doesn't have to lead to prosecution.

but surely every arrest must have thier rights read to them regardless if they are gonna prosecute? it is thier rights after all? any bobbies here that can clarify?

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pulled this off wiki Miranda warning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia