Crazy American Cop

Huntingtons

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the sooner you learn he's officer rivieri the longer you're gonna live in this world! NOW LEARN IT!
 

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he has probably just been to Iraq or something.
 

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What a douche'. Though the kid was a cock.

ROFL @ the end, you got that camera on, cause if i find myself on yo...
 

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Fat fucker.
Good thing they had the camera on. That kind of force should not be applied to kid, who doesn't even do any kind of resisting.
 

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Well to be honest, that wasn't anything really.

He came to take the skateboard, kid resisted some(can't even see what the kid did completely), he took a simple necklock and put him on the ground and when the kid tried to get up right after(stupid, offensive move towards a cop), he pushed him back down.

The sound is irrelevant in this case, can't hear at work, but the kid only got a bruider ego from that.

Not saying the cop should've taken their skateboard, but, i'm guessing they were giving lip?
 

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I don't think it is, if the kid was so badly hurt/abused why didn't they make a complaint against the officer, they had his name and a video to identify him.

I agree it was slighlty heavy handed for a kid, but, respect for the police is something that I was always brought up to have. It wouldn't have been hard for the kid to say "sorry officer I had my headphones in and didn't hear you, I understand now, I won't skateboard here anymore."

End of the matter, jobs a good'un.

The kid was a asshat, and probably didn't want his mum to see what a wanker he had been to the officer cause she'd have beaten him senseless.
 

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I don't think it is, if the kid was so badly hurt/abused why didn't they make a complaint against the officer, they had his name and a video to identify him.

I agree it was slighlty heavy handed for a kid, but, respect for the police is something that I was always brought up to have. It wouldn't have been hard for the kid to say "sorry officer I had my headphones in and didn't hear you, I understand now, I won't skateboard here anymore."

End of the matter, jobs a good'un.

The kid was a asshat, and probably didn't want his mum to see what a wanker he had been to the officer cause she'd have beaten him senseless.

Respect for the police? By letting him screaming at you telling you to shut the fuck up when he is talking and to call him by Officer Wanker instead of whatever you want to call him? Sorry but that's not respect.

A policeman should set a good example by acting respectful towards other people himself, this tool clearly fails that.

It wouldn't have been so hard for the police to just say "sorry guys, you aren't allowed to skateboard here. please move to another place or I will have to confiscate your skateboards" in a calm manner.

Maybe I missed something when watching the clip but how exactly was the kid acting like an asshat?
 

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I agree it was slighlty heavy handed for a kid, but, respect for the police is something that I was always brought up to have. It wouldn't have been hard for the kid to say "sorry officer I had my headphones in and didn't hear you, I understand now, I won't skateboard here anymore."
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Didn't he say sorry that he didn't hear him at one point but the officer insisted on going on

Well, you don't know all that happened before etc.
 

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Well, you don't know all that happened before etc.

Exactly, have to say.

Don't know what happened before, what they did, did they almost break something, did they almost ride under the cops car, what happened when the camera wasn't on the conflict etc.

Like i said, i think it was good to watch it without sound, as now it seemed like:

Cop says boys naughty(the words are a bit irrelevant).
Cop wants skateboard.
Kid resists.
Cop "throws"(rather gently actually) kid to ground and takes board.
Kid tries to get up right away.
Cop pushes kid down.

It was very, well, light contact.
 

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The cop was actually quite respectful when he first started to talk to them but then the kid started to be an ass.

Was there any need for the kid to say "I don't have a father.." "I didn't do anything.."
 

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well the kid tryet to be a smart ass tbh! only way those little punks understand anything is the way the policeman did, nothing wrong here imo.
 

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well the kid tryet to be a smart ass tbh! only way those little punks understand anything is the way the policeman did, nothing wrong here imo.

Kinda funny i think, that while smart-a** kids are the "wronged" in most peoples minds here, if it were some teenagers in the UK and a bobby kicked their behinds 'till kingdom come, i think the most common answer would be:

"Those chavs deserved it!"
"They should've been killed!"
 

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Kinda funny i think, that while smart-a** kids are the "wronged" in most peoples minds here, if it were some teenagers in the UK and a bobby kicked their behinds 'till kingdom come, i think the most common answer would be:

"Those chavs deserved it!"
"They should've been killed!"

I think that is a bit of a sweeping statement for someone who does not live in the UK. Aye the country is Pc'd up to the eyeballs but any kid that disrespects an officer of the law deserves a slap. There is no respect shown to policemen or pretty much anyone by these teenagers (not just the so called chavs) They need to be punsihed.
 

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I think that is a bit of a sweeping statement for someone who does not live in the UK. Aye the country is Pc'd up to the eyeballs but any kid that disrespects an officer of the law deserves a slap. There is no respect shown to policemen or pretty much anyone by these teenagers (not just the so called chavs) They need to be punsihed.

I think you missed my point there though.

I was saying that the same people who defend this sort of "disrespect", which i don't, wouldn't defend it if there were chavs in place of those kids.
 

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Seel you are so on the mark its unbelievable! Because the kids aren't Chavs the police man has abused his powers, if it was a bunch of chavs it'd be "Policeman beats up disrespectful Chav menacen!" and everyone would be going "HELL YEAH" "FUCK YEAH" "they deserved it!".

Interesting really.
 

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have you actually watched it Mey? Think the cop needs to lay of the juice tbh, seemed abit like roid rage to me.
 
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you can't put your hands on a child like he did, its assault, he has been suspended as a result, take from that what you will

also you have to give respect to get it mostly, and the policeman did not give any respect at all to the kid, the cop started with the wise cracks when the kid took his earphones out.
 

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The cop was actually quite respectful when he first started to talk to them but then the kid started to be an ass.

Was there any need for the kid to say "I don't have a father.." "I didn't do anything.."

What the fuck? The idiot was screaming at him "I'm not your father!", if I didn't have a father I'd probably come up with that reply too. Secondly, don't tell me you wouldn't say "I didn't do anything" if an 'officer of the law' (lol) starts screaming and shouting at you for no apparent reason.

You're just saying that the cop did indeed start act disrespectfully. Sure the kid might have been cheeky but what the hell, a policeman just shouldn't react that way.

Toth may claim the policeman 'gently' pushes him to the ground, and that's it. But I've been in a similar situation to this and I can tell you that after that experience I felt very ill and was quite shocked about these 'officers of the law' acting so extremely aggressive towards me and pushing me down to the ground in public and said they were arresting me for no reason, with no rights what so ever. I think that kid felt the same.
 

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It was the kid that was an ass first, and yes I have watched it, I've watched it a number of times.

And the kid was doing something wrong, firstly he was skating in an area where you are not allowed to skate, secondly he was disrespectful and gave back chat to a cop - that's a great way to win friends.

I'm with Seel, if it was chavs you'd all be going "Fuck yeah!".
 

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It was the kid that was an ass first, and yes I have watched it, I've watched it a number of times.

And the kid was doing something wrong, firstly he was skating in an area where you are not allowed to skate, secondly he was disrespectful and gave back chat to a cop - that's a great way to win friends.

I'm with Seel, if it was chavs you'd all be going "Fuck yeah!".

Again, how exactly was the kid being an ass first?

And personally I've nothing against 'chavs' because I've never really met any persons that apply to you british FHers descriptions of 'chavs'. I'd judged it exactly the same way I do now.
 

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Again, how exactly was the kid being an ass first?

And personally I've nothing against 'chavs' because I've never really met any persons that apply to you british FHers descriptions of 'chavs'. I'd judged it exactly the same way I do now.

By interrupting and saying 'sorry i had earplugs in' and again 'i dont have a dad, he's dead'. Then continuing to say 'sorry' at which point the officer got pissed off at him for 'being defensive'. Can't you see how much the kid provoked him?

/sarcasm off

The cop didnt like the kids attitude toward him so he felt like he had to teach him some respect, that was what it was about.. Anyways, i probably would also have a bit of an attitude toward him after starting the conversation by threatening me with juvenile and generally talking down to me instead of talking to me...

That cop clearly DIDNT understand how to keep a situation calm and under control...
 

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Great :D

Youtube commentary:

"So the comment "Okay I didn't hear you." had an annoyed tone in the kids voice but damn the officer had no right to wrestle that kid to the ground. I am an officer for the city of Chicago and even I am appalled by this. I have already called Officer Rivera's department and reported him officers like this should be kicked clean off of the force. There is a time when force is necessary but not against a puny skateboarding kid is not one of those times."
 

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You are wrong in this case Toth.
No matter if he was disrespectful (and i really don't think he was that disrespectful) REAL cops takes waaaaaaay worse verbal abuse, and solve it with words.
It's a 300 pound adult man twisting the neck of a skinny 13 year old kid, who does not do any actual resisting.
The response does not match the threat or situation, and he was correctly suspended.
There is a massive difference between three 12-13 year olds who skateboarded a public staircase. And three 17-20 year old chavs who jump someone on a streetcorner.
 

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hmm not sure how i feel about this tbh.

firstly i really do not think the way the cop handled it was at all good, yes police need respect in order to do their job but the guy was a bit of a tit the way he went off on one, he displayed a lack of control got mad at the kid then got mad again that the kid made him react that way. I agree with Blackie that a big adult should be aware of their size and probably not go grabbing a kid like that, that was wrong.

The kid should have behaved respectfully in the first place so I coul feel that he brought it on himself but the cop really should have handled it better, i mean if he loses it over a lippy child whats he going to be like when its a real bad guy he's facing up to (me thinks he is possibly only like that with people smaller than him)

There was something on the news about police in this country not being allowed to use an anti dispersal device called a mosquitoe (which emits a high pitch noise) to break up gangs of people behaving in a way thats liekly to errupt, all the human rights arseholes were saying how this infringed in the civil liberties of those it was aimed at/

My answer to this would be the same as to the boy in the video:

If you dont want to get got dont do anything wrong.
 

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i dont know the exact law but according to what i know of american law the cop did a search without consent (ie confiscating an item without suspicion). the kid wasnt respectful nor disrespectful. the cop was disrespectful and abusive in his power. Throwing abusive words and almost racist like comments (degrading him to a city area which clearly must be a poor mans area).
In all countries and on all schools legal rights should be taught to avoid these situations. and toht, saying words are irrelevant cannot be more wrong. but in the state of maryland that clip is nulled since its illigal to record people (audiowise) without consent or warrent. thats probably why it didnt go to court
 

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