Politics Coronavirus

[Scouse]

Dickhead.

I suspect it was tongue in cheek.

Suspect

 

[Gwadien]

I suspect it was tongue in cheek

Yes, but reading off the Tory hymn sheet, he does think parents are bad today though.

 

[caLLous]

He even dropped "nationalising kids" in, which I only heard for the first time the other day out of some Tory tosser.

 

[Gwadien]

If @Embattle and @Moriath believe that we're nationalising kids it's fair for me to say that the Tories want to gentrify having children.

 

[caLLous]

World. Beating.

Coronavirus: Senior Conservative MP and Johnson ally calls for Dido Harding to be axed from Test and Trace role

Claiming the public has lost confidence in Test and Trace, Sir Bernard Jenkin calls for Dido Harding to be removed from her role.

news.sky.com

 

[Moriath]

I suspect it was tongue in cheek.

Suspect

Yes it was taking giving them all food to the nth degree. Total socialism. I dont think it should or would happen. But it would be a way to ensure every child had the same chances despite parentage.

 

[Moriath]

Yes, but reading off the Tory hymn sheet, he does think parents are bad today though.

No i am sure a lot of parents are good, but theres a growing minority that shirk their responsibilities. But there will never be an even chance as long as everyone is different

 

[Ormorof]

Yes it was taking giving them all food to the nth degree. Total socialism. I dont think it should or would happen. But it would be a way to ensure every child had the same chances despite parentage.

There are ways to work towards that without "nationalising kids in camps", in Nordics vast majority of kids go to state funded daycare from about 1.5 years until they turn 7, when school starts

Society has yet to collapse on itself due to this evil communism, on the other hand gender equality, income equality stats are improving, food poverty, and infant mortality are declining. Its not utopia and it certainly has issues (aging population combined with growing anti immigration rhetoric is a dangerous combo) but seems worlds better than letting kids go hungry and taking away opportunities because of financial status of their parents

 

[Scouse]

income equality stats are improving

Actually, wealth inequality in Sweden is increasing (as it is in all the nordics).

In many respects it may be a better system that they're running, but it's still a broken system.

 

[Ormorof]

I stand corrected . We have a more lefty government here after a decade of rightys hopefully improvements to come

 

[Ormorof]

I saw this and thought it was an ad from the onion

Report: Trump Administration Scraps Santa Claus Coronavirus Vaccine Plan

Santa Claus performers would have received early access to the coronavirus vaccine in exchange for promoting its benefits. Elves and Mrs. Claus were included, too.

www.forbes.com

Apparently Santa is not bringing a vaccine for xmas

 

[Scouse]

More lockdowns on a regular basis incoming...

Track and trace is a shitshow

 

[Raven]

I think it will hit people hard, psychologically once we get Xmas out the way, January is dreary as fuck anyway, add Covid to it all and people are going to lose their shit.

 

[Raven]

Common sense failure detected.

Wales lockdown: Tesco 'wrong' to say period products 'not essential'

It had cordoned off the aisle after a break-in, but told a customer it was due to lockdown rules.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Gwadien]

Common sense failure detected.

Wales lockdown: Tesco 'wrong' to say period products 'not essential'

It had cordoned off the aisle after a break-in, but told a customer it was due to lockdown rules.

www.bbc.co.uk

Funny how they tried to blame the Government.

Use your fucking brain lol

 

[Scouse]

On track for -66000 deaths by the end of the year

20,000 would be "good" said the government.

 

[Raven]

On track for -66000 deaths by the end of the year

20,000 would be "good" said the government.

Small caveat

But more up to date government figures show that 1,189 deaths have occurred within 28 days of a positive test since the figures were registered in each nation: 1,044 in England, 62 in Scotland, 47 in Wales and 36 in Northern Ireland.

But yeah, complete failure by the Tories. You can't expect people to follow the rules when they contradict each other every few days, apathy is strong in the UK.

Lead, follow or fuck off is very much a thing and the Tories are incapable of leading.

 

[DaGaffer]

Funny how they tried to blame the Government.

Use your fucking brain lol

Why the fuck would any toiletries be off-limits? Absolutely retarded.

Now, clothes etc. yes, close it down, if only because it gives supermarkets an unreasonable competitive advantage, but chemists are open anyway, so toiletries are fine.

 

[Job]

Forget track and trace, the 2nd wave which was an absolute guarantee, if you lockdown and hide then the 2nd wave comes directly after you release restrictions...in a cycle for ever.

My issue is we seem to be protecting the fucking nhs again and call me an idiot, but wouldnt preparing for a second wave be some kind of priority.
Not a single penny been spent on doctors and nurses for this second wave that you could actually time on demand.

Heres the second wave!!

Oh fuck...anyone know a nurse?

 

[Raven]

call me an idiot

You're an idiot.

 

[Job]

Maybe we could borrow some off sweden

 

[Moriath]

On track for -66000 deaths by the end of the year

20,000 would be "good" said the government.

To be fair no one knew what to expect when that statement was made it was an optimistic guestimate. Or please tell us what would have stopped the extra 46k

 

[Raven]

Anyway, protecting the NHS, lets mull that over for a bit.

Protect the only institution that can realistically do anything about it? Yeah, sounds like a decent enough plan, unless you're an idiot ofc.

Not that the Tories are protecting anything, except ofc nice little PPE contracts with their best mates in media and PR ofc, helps if they incorporated recently and went to Eton or are mates with Cummings..

 

[Moriath]

Forget track and trace, the 2nd wave which was an absolute guarantee, if you lockdown and hide then the 2nd wave comes directly after you release restrictions...in a cycle for ever.

My issue is we seem to be protecting the fucking nhs again and call me an idiot, but wouldnt preparing for a second wave be some kind of priority.
Not a single penny been spent on doctors and nurses for this second wave that you could actually time on demand.

Heres the second wave!!

Oh fuck...anyone know a nurse?

It takes longer than 4 months to train either.

 

[Raven]

To be fair no one knew what to expect when that statement was made it was an optimistic guestimate. Or please tell us what would have stopped the extra 46k

No. It was a Tory cabinet statement, everyone else was/is screaming that this shit is serious.

* and still fucking well is, 7-8 months later.

But ofc, the fuckwits are still claiming that not giving the remotest fuck about it is the way to beat it. Because, fuck knows why, I can't even be arsed to come up with an analogy now.

Stupid fucking people, doing stupid fucking things.

 

[BloodOmen]

Anyway, protecting the NHS, lets mull that over for a bit.

Protect the only institution that can realistically do anything about it? Yeah, sounds like a decent enough plan, unless you're an idiot ofc.

Not that the Tories are protecting anything, except ofc nice little PPE contracts with their best mates in media and PR ofc, helps if they incorporated recently and went to Eton or are mates with Cummings..

In short - follow the £££ trail.

 

[Moriath]

No. It was a Tory cabinet statement, everyone else was/is screaming that this shit is serious.

* and still fucking well is, 7-8 months later.

But ofc, the fuckwits are still claiming that not giving the remotest fuck about it is the way to beat it. Because, fuck knows why, I can't even be arsed to come up with an analogy now.

Stupid fucking people, doing stupid fucking things.

But it was a statement with the facts as they were before anyone really knew what the disease could do. So it was a guestimate but in statement form. Its always best to make people feel more secure than they might otherwise be.
as if anyone would stand up in march and say well i think 60 thousand of you wont make it maybe a lot more. Just induces panic. To no ones benefit.

 

[caLLous]

But it was a statement with the facts as they were before anyone really knew what the disease could do. So it was a guestimate but in statement form. Its always best to make people feel more secure than they might otherwise be.
as if anyone would stand up in march and say well i think 60 thousand of you wont make it maybe a lot more. Just induces panic. To no ones benefit.

And giving a concrete number as a marker that they'd done a good job and then flying past it is better?

 

[Raven]

Mmmm, but here we are, when we know exactly what it can do, in the same boat. Well, a different boat tomorrow, then the same boat again on Thursday, then a different but the same boat again on Friday. But as long as you get the bus to work but avoid other people and remember to not use public transport, but only if you remember that you should avoid crowds.

And then we might have turned a corner and can safely get back to avoiding funerals and eating in crowded restaurants.

Next week 2 for 1 deal if you want to have a pile on at all you can eat. Just remember to wear a mask ffs.


God, I'm tired of it all, I really am.

Edit, we are a fucking island nation, always have been, it's why throughout history we have been so bad-ass, shut the channel and no fucker is getting in. We could have and should have had complete shut down in April/May, the economic fall out would have been far less fucked than it's going to be.

While yes, this is a global issue, you really couldn't ask for a better position than we were in, if we wanted it be so then everyone that wanted to travel here would have to swim.

 

[Scouse]

To be fair no one knew what to expect when that statement was made it was an optimistic guestimate. Or please tell us what would have stopped the extra 46k

Testing, tracking and tracing.

Effective removal of infectious people from the population is the single most effective thing ypu can do in a pandemic.

After a decade of Tory rule we weren't prepared for a pandemic we were warned about and told to prepare for, and despite boasting that our testing, tracking and tracing would be "world-beating" it's a fucking shitshow.

Aside from that @Moriath - we are one of the worst performing countries on the planet. Period.

So don't get pissy when I knock the Tories - they've measurably done one of the worst jobs on the planet.