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Zebolt

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Arus Canus said:
So roleplay cant be a human and elf working together to defeat the strongest realm/enemy? I would say thats some ( as you leet guys would say it ) STLONG ROLEPLAY.
What are you not thinking of here? Let me tell you :p
Usually Elf and Men ain't enemies, nor in war so normally it wouldn't be a problem. But in DAoC case this ain't so. Hiberna and Albion are in war and kill eachothers ppl every day. If you really wanna roleplay you can't just team up with your enemy one day and go beat up another enemy. Thats not how ppl would do and nor would you if you were in that situation if you think about it a bit more.

Funny tho how you call me leet :m00:
 

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Grats albs/hibs... there sure is some skillz0r in your teamwork & late night raiding :twak:
 

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Originally Posted By Amuse
So much whine atm.. its a GAME..

and snoz, why does it hafto be cross realming?

Hibs think stratigicly.. and wanted revenge..

They took all 6 rellics, and knowing that theyr defence of 3 relic would be greatly lower of they had all the 6, they gave them to albs (not planed)

and for all thos "buhuhuhu! stop alarm clock raids!!" , it was not an alarm clock raid, it was a raid that started early in the evening, and lasted for a loong time.. and besides, prime time raids has not been posible in middy lang, becouse of the crappy servers they are on.. even all the alarm clock raids until this point has coused the zone to crash..

No point trying to explain this to snoz, the little kid is obviously sad coz someone stole his cookie.
 

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Just to point this out to the thick people that cant seem to read.

IT WAS NOT A NIGHT TIME RR IT CONTINUED FROM WHEN YOU RELIC RAIDED US.

If you can't last it out then dont fucking bother mebbe?
 

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Zebolt said:
I'VE never said it was planned on irc or against the CoC! I was merely nagging at your attempt to roleplay in your joke.
I've never said you have said it was planned on IRC or against the CoC. My attempt to roleplay in my joke? Sorry, but the roleplaying was the joke and I seriously can't see myself roleplaying in here Oo
Zebolt said:
Im not telling you that you normally roleplay in the bad way. Im just telling you that saying things like: I smoke some weed and help my enemies cuz' it will help my realm with the guard spawn is just rofl. Ever heard of meta-gaming? Im not telling you, you can't roleplay like that. Im just telling you it's bad and would not be accepted in a serious roleplay.
Maybe its just Albs who act like idiots, do some silly things, hurt others feelings or do something suspicious and defend themselves with "I was just roleplaying"? I was sure some Hippie would come here and say "We just roleplayed", hence I said what I said (and no, I dont think Hibs done anything wrong here). Besides, no matter how you roleplay in Daoc it wouldn't be serious roleplay according to many players. You could probably enlight me how does gaining by helping a enemy realm differs from any other roleplay event in Daoc like slaughtering the Epic mobs? You said roleplaying is all about going into the role of the character and therefor hate the enemies - please do tell why in the name of god you have to hate the enemy to roleplay correctly? Meta-gaming? If I'm not totally mistaken meta-gaming is basically forcing someone to do something by threats? This has something do with this?
Zebolt said:
Usually Elf and Men ain't enemies, nor in war so normally it wouldn't be a problem. But in DAoC case this ain't so. Hiberna and Albion are in war and kill eachothers ppl every day. If you really wanna roleplay you can't just team up with your enemy one day and go beat up another enemy. Thats not how ppl would do and nor would you if you were in that situation if you think about it a bit more.
:eek7: Seriously, give me url where Mythic say this so we can /slap and /rude spam GOA. Or maybe, just maybe, this is just your opinion and in no way the only truth? The lovely thing about roleplaying is that you can do things that wouldn't happen in real life btw. You have probably missed the event where all 3 realms teamed up? Well, that kind of event happened and after that people have gained lots and lots of RPs aka killed each others oO I would be very carefull when claiming what is "good" and "bad" way to RvR/roleplay/whatever tbh.
 
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Zebolt said:
What are you not thinking of here? Let me tell you :p
Usually Elf and Men ain't enemies, nor in war so normally it wouldn't be a problem. But in DAoC case this ain't so. Hiberna and Albion are in war and kill eachothers ppl every day. If you really wanna roleplay you can't just team up with your enemy one day and go beat up another enemy. Thats not how ppl would do and nor would you if you were in that situation if you think about it a bit more.

Funny tho how you call me leet :m00:

Acually thats far from the truth in many acient wars and recent wars ppl have "cross-realmed" and teamed up then the next day backstabbed eachother, one example is Hitler and Stalins little teamwork in the earlier years of 2nd world war. They agreed not to kill eachother and split poland and a few month later germany attaked sovjet. So u cant sit there n say whats right or wrong and base it on an ideal idea of how wars should be.
Imo whats maknig daoc very funny is that these things happend it makes it exciting and challening. Next time maybe mids n hib "teamwork" against a far superior albion invasion army, and if it is in both sides interest ( mids / hib ) then what wrong with it?

On the other hand i can agree abit that its not very fun when ppl go to IRC n plan this things...
 

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Pio said:
Just to point this out to the thick people that cant seem to read.

IT WAS NOT A NIGHT TIME RR IT CONTINUED FROM WHEN YOU RELIC RAIDED US.

If you can't last it out then dont fucking bother mebbe?

some of ur realm mates dont agree :(

Originally Posted by Tareregion

Tonight started out as a simple keeptake of Fensalir to farm some RPs, but more and more Hibs came to our keep and hardly any Mids, so we decided to take another keep to draw out mids etc. Nothing planned, no rams, just 50 Hibs running around the Mid frontier, unchallenged.
This 20% dmg, I liek it [/remimode]
 

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nuky said:
some of ur realm mates dont agree :(

Originally Posted by Tareregion

Tonight started out as a simple keeptake of Fensalir to farm some RPs, but more and more Hibs came to our keep and hardly any Mids, so we decided to take another keep to draw out mids etc. Nothing planned, no rams, just 50 Hibs running around the Mid frontier, unchallenged.
This 20% dmg, I liek it [/remimode]

Afaik they had taken Fenslari before you went and attacked our relic... So its true in both cases tbh.
 

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Eroa said:
Afaik they had taken Fenslari before you went and attacked our relic... So its true in both cases tbh.

dont get me wrong i think the way hibs took relics was all good, although i dont appreciate someone taking relics and giving them to another realm. just trying to point out that they didnt repair the doors in dagda then say we are going for relics like they are trying to make out they did. they went to odins to farm rp, later that night they came up with the RR idea
 

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snoz said:
As a mid i feel rather cheated after all the hard work we did to get the relics, without any external help.

tbh ... such HUGE stlong STLONG lollage at this!!!

How do you think albs felt after raiding upland 4 times in a row and server crashing???

No external help .. yes ok :confused:
 

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It dosent concern me that we lost all the relics last night to be honist we sucked bad and deserved to loose them.

It dosent concern me eather that the hibs gave 2 strength relics to the albs ( tho I do consider this a poor showing as the hibs obviously dont have the guts to try and defend 2 RK's)

The only concirn here is how 1 alb managed to get into a Hib occupied RK. I can see no way this could be done Legit without some out of game contact and some hib shouting dont kill the alb dont kill the alb all the time.

So at best the hibs have been really dull (maintaining a status quo) at the worse some of them possibly colluding to allow an alb to get into the mid RK. Get some guts and try and keep all 6 relics yourselves that IS the idea afterall.

Eather way its irrelivent as Mid is still the only realm who can take the relics from the others at any time of day or night and we will just have to go do so again.
 

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Shanaia said:
tbh ... such HUGE stlong STLONG lollage at this!!!

How do you think albs felt after raiding upland 4 times in a row and server crashing???

No external help .. yes ok :confused:

severs have shit all to do with it, u guys have benefited from the crap servers mid runs on too, so dont start talking a load of balls mate.

if we could make goa upgrade them dont u think we would? its just as much of a hinderance to us
 

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We took fens at like 5pm ages before the rr defended it with 6 ppl first time and killed 2fg at lord repaired doors then killed 35 mids with around 12 people then TDD claimed (puppet was in our group) stuck it to lvl 10 and then everyone suicided and went on ml8 raid.

Near the end of ml8 raid mids attack rk take power relic ml8 ppl dont suicide but finish then clear out rk then go to mid I presume they used the CS at fens seeing as mids did fuck all about it and then you know the rest.

Due to mids lazyness we had a cs at fens way before the relic raid so hush.
 

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Saggy said:
I've never said you have said it was planned on IRC or against the CoC. My attempt to roleplay in my joke? Sorry, but the roleplaying was the joke and I seriously can't see myself roleplaying in here Oo
Ok maybe I missunderstood when you talked to me and the second later about the CoC, I took is for me but maybe it wasn't so. And about the roleplay joke, thats exactly what I meant but you seem to have missunderstood me too.
Saggy said:
Maybe its just Albs who act like idiots, do some silly things, hurt others feelings or do something suspicious and defend themselves with "I was just roleplaying"? I was sure some Hippie would come here and say "We just roleplayed", hence I said what I said (and no, I dont think Hibs done anything wrong here). Besides, no matter how you roleplay in Daoc it wouldn't be serious roleplay according to many players. You could probably enlight me how does gaining by helping a enemy realm differs from any other roleplay event in Daoc like slaughtering the Epic mobs? You said roleplaying is all about going into the role of the character and therefor hate the enemies - please do tell why in the name of god you have to hate the enemy to roleplay correctly? Meta-gaming? If I'm not totally mistaken meta-gaming is basically forcing someone to do something by threats? This has something do with this?
Whether or not I think albs or hibs did anything wrong in this case is not the issue here. And sure I can understand if DAoC roleplaying ain't serious, even tho I thought it wasn't just some kiddies saying, hehe lets talk funny. So you mean if say Sweden came with forces everyday to your country and killed loads of your ppl for no reason you wouldn't grow hating them? Im kinda sure you would. And even thinking that this is middle ages ppl thought it wasn't a huge deal if another country invaded another. And meta-gaming is when you for example go out to kill mobs with no other reason than exping and lvling, cuz' your character doesn't have any idea what exp and lvls are.

Saggy said:
:eek7: Seriously, give me url where Mythic say this so we can /slap and /rude spam GOA. Or maybe, just maybe, this is just your opinion and in no way the only truth? The lovely thing about roleplaying is that you can do things that wouldn't happen in real life btw. You have probably missed the event where all 3 realms teamed up? Well, that kind of event happened and after that people have gained lots and lots of RPs aka killed each others oO I would be very carefull when claiming what is "good" and "bad" way to RvR/roleplay/whatever tbh.
No I was in all those 3 events and stood there beeing friendly. I tho for one doesn't think that has anything to do with roleplay. Killing eachother one day, beeing friends the next and then minutes after hacking on eachother again. If someone come up with a good reason for that I might change my mind but I for one can't think of a thing to make that a good roleplay session.

Matriarch|Sneakers said:
Acually thats far from the truth in many acient wars and recent wars ppl have "cross-realmed" and teamed up then the next day backstabbed eachother, one example is Hitler and Stalins little teamwork in the earlier years of 2nd world war. They agreed not to kill eachother and split poland and a few month later germany attaked sovjet. So u cant sit there n say whats right or wrong and base it on an ideal idea of how wars should be.
Imo whats maknig daoc very funny is that these things happend it makes it exciting and challening. Next time maybe mids n hib "teamwork" against a far superior albion invasion army, and if it is in both sides interest ( mids / hib ) then what wrong with it?

On the other hand i can agree abit that its not very fun when ppl go to IRC n plan this things...
I don't believe for one second that Hitler and Stalin met eachother on the battle field and just said, let's team up. I don't know the case but I'm pretty sure they had some sort of conversation before they met on the battlefield. And again, whether or not I think it's wrong or not is not the issue here.
 

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Eather way its irrelivent as Mid is still the only realm who can take the relics from the others at any time of day or night and we will just have to go do so again.

what he said

and nerf midnight not being night time raid some of us have jobs you know :D
 

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And just to point out I think it was hib power relic we took at 9pm on a weekday but that isn't primetime huh?
 

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Nuky,

The RR call went out on /as before the doors were fully repaired. I guess some people were already thinking about it too, which is why they were taking Mid Keeps.

Given that Mid had just taken a relic, it doesn't show much sense of defense to leave Fens at level 10 :eek:


Carrot,

Many Albs and Hibbies will quite happily explain why Mids are the only realm able to take Relics Primetime. Although I was pleasantly surprised that we managed to re-take Dagda and prevent the loss of the other 2 power relics when 140 Mids were there.

I think it's a little understandable that we don't try to hold 2 RKs, since we already start with half the population of the other 2 realms? Having said that, I would certainly be up for trying :)
 

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nuky said:
severs have shit all to do with it, u guys have benefited from the crap servers mid runs on too, so dont start talking a load of balls mate.

umm..tbh shit servers have everything to do with it, when theres 70 albs and maybe 120 mids and the server crashes not once but 4 times! [also think back to Fensalir defence by DoA...about 50 albs and 100 mids and it crashed twice in 15 mins]


Now think back to the times wehn alb mainland crashed when the mids were rring...there were over 200 albs in FS and 200 mids [ish] and it crashed...hardly the same thing is it?

One crash by pure numbers [400+ in a zone is gonna lag it to buggery like that]
The other with at most 200 people in a zone and it crashes.....that just aint right as i KNOW we have had mids attack excal with 200ish mids and 150 albs and it hasn't crashed [iirc for an entire week this happened and no crashes..but this was pre ToA]

How would you feel if everytime your about to get the relic..the server bombs out repeatadly, all the effort getting rams and people sorted...getting them to the RK undetected [nice work mids last night btw...we spotted u in 'a certain frontier zone' and then again when you left 'a certain frontier zone' but the hibs didn't..nice approach] to have it all wasted because the mid frontier server can't handle the amount of people needed to make a RR happen?

I'm sure if posiions had been reversed...mids had been raiding the albs and the frontier had crashed repeatadly...you would be just as pissed off as we were/are

-Gale
 

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Good show Ove1

Its good to see some ppl from other realms have a bit of backbone, even if as a hib its made from bark and purdy flowers :)
 

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grats to albs when they had so much brave players who scout to mjölnir and take relic 4am middle week!
dam, make me wonder how you sleep after so big fights etc what there happend?

well, hope every albs have again irc up to date and allways online :) like we all know, its albs last line of defense :D

40% pop in this server and 4am relicraid?!?! dam


ps.
if you still whine and try explain this raid, but but mids side cannot handle 400 albs same time? dont blame us! blame goa.
we have write and allmost beg better servers but what happend?
nothing.
relicraid 4am its lame, nothing big against it, but when albs whine mids need do allways RR primetime + self show this kind action? its different rules to different realms?
 

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Pio said:
Just to point this out to the thick people that cant seem to read.

IT WAS NOT A NIGHT TIME RR IT CONTINUED FROM WHEN YOU RELIC RAIDED US.

If you can't last it out then dont fucking bother mebbe?

Stop whining .. it was a nighttime raid. And hib alb coop.
But if thats what it takes i dont blame you :) not everyone can get relics with dignity.
 

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Oh crap, does this mean that we have to defend our realm again, get whines about alb classes being overpowered and what not?

Hurrah!
 

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Fensalir was captured before Mids RRed Hib. Mids are lazy and didn't take it back. We took other keeps, Mids didn't respond. "so, turn it into a relic raid?" Own fault you lost your relics. If you had responded to the keeptakes we would have stayed and farm RPs.
Remi whine, i liek it :p
 

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I'm not whining you mong mids are the one's whining I'm stating a fact.

Your rr, you take one relic, hibs clear rk, hibs go take back power, hibs think fuck them they can suffer now, hibs go take stre relics.

Thats what happened one after the other hence FACT
 

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Ahahaha

Rustan said:
Stop whining .. it was a nighttime raid. And hib alb coop.
But if thats what it takes i dont blame you :) not everyone can get relics with dignity.

U must have kidding rofl, next time think twice before making stupid things ;)
 

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Gale said:
How would you feel if everytime your about to get the relic..the server bombs out repeatadly,


probably the same as when the server bombs out and u get to keep the relics.

yes the servers are shitty, but there is nothing we can do about it, but saying it has only ever helped mids is just silly.
 

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