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[Cadiva]

While not wanting to get deeply involved in the 6 v 6 debate I will say I dislike it intensely for a number of reasons:

1 the exclusive versus inclusive,
2 the whole you can't play here we're having an epeen fest,
3 the lack of community spirit it engenders when people get sick to death of being told to ffs stop adding on my fight
4 the fact it killed off DAoC in Europe on the English speaking servers and resulted in the Freddys RvR forum turning into a deposit for venom, insult and just general moronic behaviour.

But, to go to the subject of the topic in hand, I won't move again. I've done it once to Hirn, I like Hirn, I also lost names during the move and I won't go through the hassle of having to set up a guild all over again.

If the forced move goes through, my sub ends now and I never thought I'd say that about a game I have enjoyed beta testing and playing in spite of all the hiccups and lack of balance issues.

 

[Nate]

i dont mind "oh lets go to X and fight someone or something"

i really DO mind "FFS get out of this -zone- if you arent soloing" and so forth

you want to do it, fine, but dont you fucking dare tell other people to stop MMOing so you can play counterstrike with GCD. *

* you isnt you , its people in general, obv

All I'm saying is, I haven't seen this so far in WAR. So it's hopefully something that can be forgotten as the players in the GvG community have evolved. I don't think they can all be blamed for past mistakes as a lot of them probably weren't ever involved in it at that time.

 

[Tallen]

I do not want to move from Hirn, it's one of the the best communities i have encountered in an mmo. If they shut it down I'm more inclined to quit than move server and i suspect I'm not alone.

This is what happens when you put trust in GOA and being a former DAoC player I should have seen this coming, they let you settle in, then fuck you over.

 

[Gahn]

gahn, fhanks for proving my point

oh look were so much better than you all laa dee daa

i was expecting this kind of reaction from one of you lot, and it has rather proved the point i was trying to make, so cheers

i could give a fuck if it works or not, the will and want is there

and i know your involved in it so i could care what you think .

/edit
oh and you were a known cross realm organiser in daoc, so where the fuck do you think you get the right to comment on any sort of server wide community little mr in-it-for-your-own-epeen-with-your-sad-mIRC-mates ?

It is exactly the other way around, i (and never saw any1 from KP8 6vs6 or 1vs1 ppl) never come on the forums nor in game telling any1 how to play, nor insulting em just cause they play different than me.
It's your behaviour and it is getting old and stinking.

You came out commenting on KP8 things and come here and tell me that i comment on anything? Get a grip already.

As for the cross realming organizer i just laugh at you me and my guild made a lot more than you could ever know for Hibernia and just cause we had respect for the persons playing behind red tags makes us, in case, better than you.

Just get over it already, you are just a fecking clown.

 

[Svartmetall]

Maybe take it to PMs rather than turn this thread into a public mudslinging contest? That's not going to do any of us any good at a time like this.

I echo what Tallen says - I'll go back to Gaheris before I endure another forced WAR move from GOA.

 

[rynnor]

Maybe take it to PMs rather than turn this thread into a public mudslinging contest?

I would like to echo Svarts comments - this is not a thread to discuss the merits of 6v6 - dont make me go all Nazi mod please!

 

[Dervish]

I will seriously have to consider my Warhammer Online future if this is allowed to continue. I can accept that this stuff happens but what I cannot accept is the way it is being handled. There must surely be alternatives but why haven't we, the paying, customers been involved in these decisions? I realise we pay GOA to manage the game and ideally this wouldn't be an issue but would it hurt for GOA to reach out and ask what people want? At least then people will feel involved even if they ultimately don't get what they want. After all, if we define 'managing the game' as 'making our overall WAR experience the best it can possibly' then surely in order to give us the best experience they have to know what we actually want.....

 

[Mabs]

I echo what Tallen says - I'll go back to Gaheris before I endure another forced WAR move from GOA.

been talking to a few bods, looks like most of our guild flat out wont move, already moved once, paid 70 odd quid for CE, and now lost all or most of the names they PAID to get at start.

other thing is, where does it end ? move again in another month ?

I would like to echo Svarts comments - this is not a thread to discuss the merits of 6v6 - dont make me go all Nazi mod please!

aaw ok then

 

[Cadiva]

I echo what Tallen says - I'll go back to Gaheris before I endure another forced WAR move from GOA.

Ditto

 

[Grotnob]

I'm beginning to accept the grim inevitability of all this.

So, pragmatically, of the destination servers, which one are they going to be moving people off in 2 months time?

My money's on Burlock, which is a crying shame because every MMO needs an RP server. (Although this opinion isn't reflected in the number of people playing Burlock, so maybe there's a deeper issue preventing roleplayers like myself from rolling on an RP server...)

So, two months down the line when Burlock is dead and gone, Norn next?

Cut to the chase, GOA. Which server do you want English speakers playing on?

 

[rynnor]

So, pragmatically, of the destination servers, which one are they going to be moving people off in 2 months time?

My money's on Burlock,

Mine too - I can see why GOA would try to retain at least one RP server but logic suggests it wont have massive population?

 

[civy]

Why they didnt just merge hirn and db i dont understand

hirn order > dest
db order < dest

maybe its to simple a solution.

Edit:
Well I can guess the reason they wont merge. MJ once said if they merge servers then the game has failed. Offering forced transfers is a merge without calling it a merge. Semantics > Logic

 

[Cadelin]

My money's on Burlock, which is a crying shame because every MMO needs an RP server. (Although this opinion isn't reflected in the number of people playing Burlock, so maybe there's a deeper issue preventing roleplayers like myself from rolling on an RP server...)

So, two months down the line when Burlock is dead and gone, Norn next?

Cut to the chase, GOA. Which server do you want English speakers playing on?

The RP server stops working as soon as you can gain an advantage by not roleplaying. The only people that wil enjoy playing on a RP server are the people who enjoy that above all other aspects of the game, which is not very many people.

I believe the answer to your final question is: Mythics

 

[Mabs]

Why they didnt just merge hirn and db i dont understand

hirn order > dest
db order < dest

maybe its to simple a solution.

Edit:
Well I can guess the reason they wont merge. MJ once said if they merge servers then the game has failed. Offering forced transfers is a merge without calling it a merge. Semantics > Logic

clustering isnt something you "do"

you have 2 poeple called BOB, which one keeps the names? or do you write code that changes them to BoB-Hirn and BOB-db ?

its not as easy as it looks

 

[Tetley]

Is there any chance of a response from GOA either on this thread or on the similar one I started which accused them of cowardice in how they had gone about this?

Is it simply that now the bullets are starting to fly around (metaphorically speaking) they are keeping their heads down and so proving my point, or is it that GOA have told their people here to shut up and say nothing?

What do GOA have to say to defend how this has been done?

 

[Mabs]

Is there any chance of a response from GOA either on this thread or on the similar one I started which accused them of cowardice in how they had gone about this?

Is it simply that now the bullets are starting to fly around (metaphorically speaking) they are keeping their heads down and so proving my point, or is it that GOA have told their people here to shut up and say nothing?

What do GOA have to say to defend how this has been done?

there are 2 posts on WHA about it, not recent tho, earlier today afaik

 

[ford prefect]

Is there any chance of a response from GOA either on this thread or on the similar one I started which accused them of cowardice in how they had gone about this?

Is it simply that now the bullets are starting to fly around (metaphorically speaking) they are keeping their heads down and so proving my point, or is it that GOA have told their people here to shut up and say nothing?

What do GOA have to say to defend how this has been done?

I think the term "Cowardice" is a bit strong. Nic and Magnus are obliged to take the usual stance. A decision has been made upon high, and that is that. What is the point on them commenting on something that they have no power to change?

I daresay the usual system is in place; the feedback from here and other places will be forwarded to the powers that be, and promptly ignored.

 

[rynnor]

I feel a bit sorry for the destination servers too - theres a fair bet most people will head to 1 server which could then end up overloaded at peak times

 

[Mabs]

I feel a bit sorry for the destination servers too - theres a fair bet most people will head to 1 server which could then end up overloaded at peak times

its ok tho

cos in 2 months the other 3 will be merged with it anyway, so it doesnt matter where u go now..

/despondant cynicism

 

[Shagrat]

well great,

as others have said. Some of us have already gone through this once, and already lost character names that weve carried across multiple mmo's.

To now have it dropped on us again is just frustrating. I was holding out to see how a choppa plays as my main is a shammy and im missing my axes

Now I think I might let my subs slide and play Empire Total War for a while. Then I can see what develops/dies communitywise without paying them £10 a month to punt me from server to server for a laugh.

 

[Muylaetrix]

moved server once, i feel no reason to leave a (imho) perfectly fine server now, the only problem is that GOA is CREATING a problem now by almost forcing people to move, which will result in a dieing server.

i realy don`t get it.

hirn server population just seems fine to me, already fortress fights have way more people in it that the zone can handle. most of the time, a large number of players simply can`t join a fortress fight due to the caps.

i would really like a CM to come and explain us what looks to me like GOA shooting a riot gun shell in their own foot for no apparant reason.

moving servers is a disaster, it kills guilds.

 

[Grotnob]

Unfortunately, the rot is already set in and what is done cannot be undone. The server transfers are now live, and people are probably leaving Hirn as I type for pastures painted greener.

I suppose GOA could apply a tourniquet and cancel the transfer, but what then happens if half a guild's transferred already, and the other half haven't?

 

[Cadiva]

Unfortunately, the rot is already set in and what is done cannot be undone. The server transfers are now live, and people are probably leaving Hirn as I type for pastures painted greener.

I suppose GOA could apply a tourniquet and cancel the transfer, but what then happens if half a guild's transferred already, and the other half haven't?

Don't care, I won't be moving and if that means I end up not playing WAR well that's GoA's issue not mine. My auto renew is already canceled and I'll see what happens during the time I've got left on my sub as to whether I want to renew or if I'll go back to playing DAoC on Gaheris.

 

[Tetley]

I think the term "Cowardice" is a bit strong. Nic and Magnus are obliged to take the usual stance. A decision has been made upon high, and that is that.

I don't think it is a bit strong. I am talking about GOA here rather than Nic and Magnus. Having said that it is their function here, to act as a communication link between ourselves and GOA management. If they have no information to give then they can just say that - I do not put blame on them for this. A question I would like answered is did GOA expect the reaction this statement has got or were they just naieve?


Has anyone heard of a date when the transfer offer is over by the way? Are we working to a timescale here to decide?

 

[Mabs]

cancelled my sub, and re-patching DAOC US at the mo

gaheris here we go, again

 

[Appollo]

what i do find laughable, is the talk of "community"

really, i keep meeting people who have fled from K8P due to the cock ends on their driving people away with their exclusive attitude*

K8P was offered as an exit rather than a target in a recent move, why the hell are they now a target ?

someone at GOA plays on there i take it ?


* this sort of shit

hahaha

noh!

 

[pikeh]

strange situation tbh. I thought Hirn was doing pretty well?

Could cause a whole lot of sub-loss.

 

[Mabs]

strange situation tbh. I thought Hirn was doing pretty well?

has caused a whole lot of sub-loss.

fixed

 

[Bugz]

What is the point on them commenting on something that they have no power to change?

Because they're fuckin' community managers.

We want to hear them say 'yeah, we've fucked up guys' so at least we know we're not being serviced by a munch of totally inept morons.

 

[Ctuchik]

Unfortunately, the rot is already set in and what is done cannot be undone.

yep, already noticing it on karak hirn. been queued for T3 scenarios all fucking day (11 hours or so) and not ONE single scenario popped up. the day before the announcement i had scenarios popping near instantly after queueing.

thanks a fucking lot GOA, youre incredibly retarded timing is making me fail the live event because no TT scenarios start..