Clerics Good/Bad

[mordsythe]

ok heres the thing that bothers me. i got a lvl 48.5 FULL rejuve cleric. i wanted full 50 rejuve cos i wanna b a PURE breed healer. i can heal ftw and im fully ToA'd. but can some1 tell me WHY i cant get a group.. eitha PvE or RvR????

any1 that wants to post on here and is gonna say "ill help u to get to 50 thn PLEASE DO!!!

i work till 5pm GMT Mon-Fri and get home and online by 18:30 and thn im on till 11:30pm most nights. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!:worthy:

 

[Ckiller]

rvr u want enough enhance to not get sheared tbh

we will see how it looks once we get that cool patch theyre makin in the US atm

 

[scorge]

ok heres the thing that bothers me. i got a lvl 48.5 FULL rejuve cleric. i wanted full 50 rejuve cos i wanna b a PURE breed healer. i can heal ftw and im fully ToA'd. but can some1 tell me WHY i cant get a group.. eitha PvE or RvR????

any1 that wants to post on here and is gonna say "ill help u to get to 50 thn PLEASE DO!!!

i work till 5pm GMT Mon-Fri and get home and online by 18:30 and thn im on till 11:30pm most nights. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!:worthy:

not many full rejuve clerics as it lacks utility, most go for 41 rej 36 enh, reason being is that the power cost of the higher heals does not give you enough Hp's when you can spam two lesser heals for the same power cost and get better Hp's back


Try getting a group in AC normally plenty in there or doing catacombs quests as the give a lot of Xp.

As for RvR, unfortunetly even though people say they need rejuve clerics they are not likely to pick you up, unless they know you. guild groups are normally easier to get.

 

[eggy]

Neither.

A balanced cleric is best in any group.

 

[kirennia]

36rej/40enhance or 41rej 35enhance. First one if you want to be in combat buffer and shearer as well as healer, second one if you think you're competant enough to ahealer to not just rely on spread heals. Generally the second one would require a higher realm rank as the single heal takes up power when you miscast and higher RR will allow you to get better mcl/rp

 

[Graendel]

Got 3 clerics myself.

One 50 enh for buffs and pet healing - generally heals are shit and I need MCL, FoP and Aug Dex to do ok. RvR is a nono unless I'm only botting for one person.

One 42enh/33 rejuv. The buffs are great stuff and caps casters (dex, acu). And if you haven't noticed they are often the first to die. I've got good shears and do ok with heals since I prefer to use the base group heal and base single target heal. Only thing I find crap is the 50% rezz at times. Reason why this cleric works is probably the rr, 5L2 or so.

My new cleric, 41rej/35enh. So far it's fun. I'm getting used to the big spec heal, and the 100% rezz is cool. Power is definitely an issue, but thank god for power barrels, FoP and MCL. Still, I find I use the base heals a lot.

Conclusion: Try a split spec, see how you like it. Whatever you do, get out of the full rejuv spec unless you plan to pve the rest of your life. It simply does not work in rvr, where people count on you to rebuff anybody who dies.

Good luck!

 

[Shanaia]

You're not even 50 yet and you cry about not getting rvr groups?

kk

And yeah "pure breed healer" etc is crap. A 41/35 cleric heals just as well as a 50 healer and better because he'll have better buffs that can't be sheared... a 35/41 cleric will still be better for a group as it gives better buffs, still heals sufficiantly and shears.

Full rejuv = bad mkay
50 = good mkay

 

[Talsar]

imo the best cleric setup is 41 Rej 35 Enh and 3 Smite

I have always had a cleric as my main since beta, and i have tried various specs with various templates and the one above imo is by far the best.

With wild healing2 i can heal for 1600+ & 300 Critical.

Yes i am high RR and it does make a difference however imo with the number of buffbots around there is no real need to take enh above 35.

I too have a 50 enh Buffbot which i use to replace the blue/yellow specs that i can only do with 41rej 35enh.

When you are in the "heat" of battle there is very little u can do in the way of using your cleric to "attack" i.e. using debuffs. As a clerics primary job is to keep the group alive and fully buffed at all times. It is your fellow members job to pawn! yours is to assist.

With a rej 41 cleric - solo'ing can be a pain! however at ML 5 you laugh all the way to the bank! FOH and FOP give you ability to solo red's (odd purple).

I hope this has been some help.

 

[Vladamir]

Do an Andrilyn and go 50 smite Ml10 warlord, unstoppable!.

 

[Zagg]

There is the good spec (40e/35r/9s), the okay spec (41r/35e/3s) and loads of other specs, which are only viable if you either have an opted group or like to run solo.

 

[Rhori]

Rhori's running around on 40 rej, 36 enh rest smite and that seems to work fine

 

[Andrilyn]

I'm currently 40 enh 36 rej and I like it the best at the moment.
Main thing about it is the fact that you got capped buffs and can't be sheared add to it that you got d/q shear which is really nice.
I was 41 rej 35 enh before and I lost around 100-200 hp on my Greater heal and nothing on my major heal and lost my 100% rez but I gained shear immunity, more shears and capped battle buffs which is alot better than 100 hp and 100% rez imo.

I wouldn't go 50 in any line unless you want to make a buffbot, 50 rej will mean you will overheal alot which means alot of power waste.
With my 36 rej I heal with my Major heal for around 550-600 and with my Greater heal for near 800 add aug dex 5 to that and I can cast my Major heals (very little power cost) extremely fast and my greater heals are lifesavers due to their 2.2 sec cast speed while Major heals are 3.2 cast speed on 36 rej anyway.
I don't see why people want to heal for 1500+.. it's nice but 9 out of the 10 times people don't need that amount healed and when I was 41 rej I remember the 41 spec heal to cost loads of power compared to the level 32 one (which only heals for 100-200 hp less like I said earlier).

Though if you are still low RR I'd suggest the 41 rej 35 enh spec as you probably don't have points for MoH or WH yet and if you run with another cleric who has battle buffs then it's not a problem.
But once again I wouldn't suggest going 50 rej or 50 enh (unless you want to be a buffbot) I tried 50 rej on Gorse (test server) when we got to test NF and the mana use on all the heals was ridiculous high and I was overhealing all the time.
But whatever you tend to spec remember to use your spec heals (if you are not going lower than 32 rej) most of the time and stay away from the spreadheal button as much as possible as 9 out of the 10 times it's better to use single target heals than to be a spread spammer, yes also if you got 75%pp

 

[Zede]

In rvr, we run 1 40 rejuv 36 enh & 1 40 enh 35 rejuv cleric

High end rejuv spells cost alot more power to cast, in rvr u will go oop some what quicker, (50% power pool needed to make up for it i reckon)

 

[Cameron]

imo the best cleric setup is 41 Rej 35 Enh and 3 Smite

When you are in the "heat" of battle there is very little u can do in the way of using your cleric to "attack" i.e. using debuffs.

Disagree in the first 5 - 10 seconds of any fight u have ample opportunity normally to get a couple of shears in while ppl are positioning. Take an int and dexs of a caster can make a huge difference to the outcome. Agree that primary job however is to keep the group alive... if taking lots of dmg no time for shears maybe.

 

[Talsar]

Disagree in the first 5 - 10 seconds of any fight u have ample opportunity normally to get a couple of shears in while ppl are positioning. Take an int and dexs of a caster can make a huge difference to the outcome. Agree that primary job however is to keep the group alive... if taking lots of dmg no time for shears maybe.

I agree and disagree!... Yes there is certian group formations that you come up against that you have time to get a few shears in.... however, there is some when your group is falling faster then chocolate domino men and you need to keep them up.

I also would like to add that as a "tank looking class" - clerics often look like a tank in RVR. If you cast "too early" i.e. to do shears, then you have given away the fact that you are not a paladin/merc and that you are indeed a cleric = instant death on assist chain.

By waiting those vital few seconds (standing as though you were mezzed) you are often ignored to a degree that you can cast heals in peace (unless there is a Healing Scout looking for you).

 

[Doink-666]

Dunno if I should of read all of that but all I know that pure rej is bad bad bad thing. Prefer the enhance way of thing hehe found buffbots able to heal for more than most rej clerics out there. Ofc when I saw this they were fully suped up

 

[Flimgoblin]

does this really have to be a poll?

no.

Repost it as a discussion.