Classic Server Poll

[Gorrion]

There are no doubt in my mind that a Classic Server, in a very near future, will be avalible on EU-servers, its a demand from the customers that Mythic/Goa cant ignore.
What some of us stated shortly after TOA release, have finally reached the game-designers of Dark age of Camelot. That is. . . 50% maby more playing online games or anyother game for that matter are casual players, meaning maby 10 hours or less per week. with the arrival of Artifacts and ML's their adventures in this virtual realm suddenly became a impossible task, never to achive atleast some of the ultimate goals that once was within reach, when 1st joining this game. Hence since TOA players have left in a steady stream, and on top of that the game became VERY uninviting to new players, witch in the end surely will be the end of Daoc.
I know playes leave games like Daoc and others because of other matters and not only because "in Daoc case" TOA was launched . . But im sure mythic created a "Firewall" around their own game with the Artifacts and ML's, because the efforts of new players to join the game became imence and beyond reach for maby 99% of any new player who would try out Daoc.
Im welcomming a Classic server with open arms, and if they are making buffbots impossible to use ill welcome it even more. . .
Im signing up for a Classic server . . . and it will be here!

Regards Gorrion

 

[Everz]

Hell with classic servers, if its anything like the impact in had on US, rvr would be ruined for other servers.

 

[GrisomWarshadow]

a classic server would kill the english servers

goto US

True! but... can you kill the english servers anymore

 

[GrisomWarshadow]

Where's the option for 'I'm not interested in Classic server and don't want one added here'.

Next to the QQ Amagad kthxbye megameight option i think

 

[Kami]

True! but... can you kill the english servers anymore

Correction:

True! but... can you kill the english server anymore

and no I don't count Camlann as and English server

 

[blejs]

if classic i really hope they only do english on that server.

Otherwise i think the population on both classic and the toa server wont be good enough.


But if classic and english and getting some germans and french ppl, i think atleast the classic servers will work fine.


Just wondering how the pryd/exc server gonna be if lets say 2500peak hours.
Wonder how many % is gonna try it out.

Maybe 500ppl? Or more? No clue..

 

[Skaven]

No doubt if it ever came about the EU/classic server would be at full capacity for at least the first few weeks - having english/german/french on there as well with people trying it out. Over time though I think it'll go the same way as the pvp server to a certain extent,the figures will lvl off and you may get about 1500 players on there @ peak times.

Like someone said though, if you really really want to play classic daoc, go roll an account on the US, really isn't any excuses tbh.

 

[Honza]

No, I really don't wish to see EU classic server. It took me 2 years to level my pally and get him decent rank. Undertaking this whole anew, can't imagine I would do that.

You people are all flaming ToA... but imagine playing without all your MLs. I doubt you would be happy of downtimes slow regaining back your power, special spells arties allow you to use etc. etc...

And the thing I would hate the most - old frontiers... It was nothing other than zerging amg<->mmg, elitist groups taking noone other and mids having relics all the time. With new frontiers, actually using your brain and using of terrain, obstacles etc. can be of some use, which greatly increased it's popularity among players who declined OF.

You people remember good old days... Yee, but you already forgot bad things and remember only the good ones - it's the way human brain works.

Every new datadisc made some players leave the game - ToA for most and I don't wonder it - getting MLs, arties and XP them in the beginning was nightmare... Nowadays, it's damn easy to level your arties... 2-3 days exping in PoC/NF levels every possible arti to lvl 10 - not that bad imo. MLs are also much easier to do - you don't have to follow order, you can grant credit for LDs, what more would you want?

Classic server - now you say we'd all start with lvl 1... YEEEAH, but within a month, you would have players having lvl 30-40 and players getting RR5 - and the situation would be exactly the same... Casual players would simply always be in disadvantage.

And as for low population on servers... The most population of DAoC was blown out by WoW. And to be honest, WoW is faaaaar away of being that good to take so much players from other MMORPGs, especially from DAoC. It's just extreme advertisement campaign - tbh I am being sick of seeing WoW advertisement on every web page I open. And when WoW gets some datadisc, situation will be same - some people will say "It won't be like good old days" and they'll leave.

OFC many of you would say "It would be the best if ToA never came out"... Do you really think so? We'd have plenty of players leaving to other MMORPGs, cause there they would have Arties etc there. (Not that I'd be too much friend of arti fever though).

Well, if GoA would allow to take off our current characters ToA stuff and move to ToA-excluded server, I'd go for it in case my friends would do, but I really can't imagine all that leveling and getting template pieces together etc... Starting from 0... eek...

 

[Nedo]

Classic server - now you say we'd all start with lvl 1... YEEEAH, but within a month, you would have players having lvl 30-40 and players getting RR5 - and the situation would be exactly the same... Casual players would simply always be in disadvantage.

Agree to some extent with the difference that any player can easy enough get his toon to competetive state without alot of PvE after lvl50. Meaning the casual gamer is "only" behind in RR's and not cause he could not farm those 100p for super template and did not have the time/friends to lvl artis.

 

[Blizard]

WTF is all the bull crap about TOA being crap, i cant believe that most of you think TOA is crap!???
TOA imo is awsome, the game has just got so big that there so many places to travel, explore and farm etc...
The 1st time i saw TOA, i couldnt believe the extent of how far we had come from the begining days of DAoC!
All the underwater dungeons etc, its just amasing!
The way they have implemented these new Master Levels... I mean how cool is that? If you want your character to be the best he can be, then you have to work at it and spend alot of time on it!!
I for one am totally happy with the way the game has panned out!
I liked the old frontiers but NF gives it abit more scope for better and bigger battles and reinforcements to come to the rescue quick!
If you really dont like TOA, then why carry on playing the game? There must have been something still inside of you telling you its an awsome game!
I have played many MMORGs and none meet up to this standard!

As for Classic servers... theres no way i would re-roll onto another server and start from level 1 again!! I have put over 3yrs work into my account building up my characters so there the best they can be!

Sorry to sound abit pi55ed but after playing all this time and seeing everyone still playing DAoC and then seeing the same people who play every day whining about TOA just gets to me!! If its that crap, then leave...

 

[Cem]

half the people who want it can go to US and play it

the other half that dont, do not want there current servers ruined just so others can play classic when they can play it somwhere else

How would it ruin the server? if you mean by low population, then surely if half the people that wanted to play it all buggered off to the US server, that would have the same effect on the servers, than if they just joined one in the EU? or is there another element to this i am missing?

 

[Osri]

WTF is all the bull crap about TOA being crap, i cant believe that most of you think TOA is crap!???
TOA imo is awsome, the game has just got so big that there so many places to travel, explore and farm etc...
The 1st time i saw TOA, i couldnt believe the extent of how far we had come from the begining days of DAoC!
All the underwater dungeons etc, its just amasing!
The way they have implemented these new Master Levels... I mean how cool is that? If you want your character to be the best he can be, then you have to work at it and spend alot of time on it!!
I for one am totally happy with the way the game has panned out!
I liked the old frontiers but NF gives it abit more scope for better and bigger battles and reinforcements to come to the rescue quick!
If you really dont like TOA, then why carry on playing the game? There must have been something still inside of you telling you its an awsome game!
I have played many MMORGs and none meet up to this standard!

As for Classic servers... theres no way i would re-roll onto another server and start from level 1 again!! I have put over 3yrs work into my account building up my characters so there the best they can be!

Sorry to sound abit pi55ed but after playing all this time and seeing everyone still playing DAoC and then seeing the same people who play every day whining about TOA just gets to me!! If its that crap, then leave...

If you like pve...I bet toa is heaven...if not its opposite

 

[Votan]

and god i miss old Thidranki, new thid sucks big time.

I couldn't have said it better myself


A classic server with catas and NF is something that I'm going to try (should it ever come to Europe). One of the biggest pro's is the fact that everyone starts at lvl 1.. no more fotm rr7+ fg's (for the time being at least).
Making buffs ranged is good though having a BB in a keep can still provide some benefit.
OF was fun for a bit but its too limited, I much prefer the continuity of NF. Besides NF allows much more freedom of movement (I still have milegates).

 

[Anarawan]

EU classic now

I'm a casual player and i play daoc about 2 and 1/2 years, and i got TOA since it's released.

At this time i have 5 lvl 50's chars
The higher one is 1 ML1, and 0 artifacts lvl 10.
Tbh TOA ruined the game for me, and others like me.
I have a job and a rl outside Daoc. 99% of ml raids are unavaiable to me (and others).


Nevertheless i still enjoy the game and i dont think i'll quit, but being insta-killed constantly just because i dont have enough time or plats or a stupid encounter that takes 1/2 a day its just not fair.

The current english servers are doomed. has someone stated b4 newcomers are not welcome.
shlt if i wanted to start daoc know from lvl 1 someone should kill me, they were be doing me a favour.

No newcomers=game death, and that is a fact.


your point of "if u want classic move to US". Well why should i move there?
I have the same right has u all are. But u dont have the right to send anyone away, just because they are diferent.

EU classic server - will bring back the old players (The REALLY GOOD PLAYERS), and encourage the newcomers.

 

[Zebolt]

None ToA server was teh s00k, it's like playing in slowmotion.. good for slow players tho I guess

 

[Zede]

There are no doubt in my mind that a Classic Server, in a very near future, will be avalible on EU-servers, its a demand from the customers that Mythic/Goa cant ignore.
What some of us stated shortly after TOA release, have finally reached the game-designers of Dark age of Camelot. That is. . . 50% maby more playing online games or anyother game for that matter are casual players, meaning maby 10 hours or less per week. with the arrival of Artifacts and ML's their adventures in this virtual realm suddenly became a impossible task, never to achive atleast some of the ultimate goals that once was within reach, when 1st joining this game. Hence since TOA players have left in a steady stream, and on top of that the game became VERY uninviting to new players, witch in the end surely will be the end of Daoc.
I know playes leave games like Daoc and others because of other matters and not only because "in Daoc case" TOA was launched . . But im sure mythic created a "Firewall" around their own game with the Artifacts and ML's, because the efforts of new players to join the game became imence and beyond reach for maby 99% of any new player who would try out Daoc.
Im welcomming a Classic server with open arms, and if they are making buffbots impossible to use ill welcome it even more. . .
Im signing up for a Classic server . . . and it will be here!

Regards Gorrion

thats mostly rubbish tbh, 95% of people going to classic servers are all old pros, its the new players that LIKE toa, and see it as a role playing game... not a rush to get kitted out for rvr asap.

 

[Frust]

I can understand why people who play this game for the first time, or who has sold their accounts would prefer a classic server. What i cant grasp is why folks with full ToA-gear, artis and ML10 choose a classic server. If the classic servers had OF and the old RA-system it would make more sense to me as to why they would want to play classic.

 

[Zebolt]

If you like pve...I bet toa is heaven...if not its opposite

Wrong :<

 

[Heta]

4 runs in DS with zerker and I got all items I need (2x rings, 1x bracer, 1x belt, shoes) the haubark, sleeves, leggings will I buy from ME as it aint to expensive anyways. Each run took about 1.5h-2h.


kinda fast compared to make ml10+artis+scrolls+exping artis

 

[Ballard]

I can understand why people who play this game for the first time, or who has sold their accounts would prefer a classic server. What i cant grasp is why folks with full ToA-gear, artis and ML10 choose a classic server. If the classic servers had OF and the old RA-system it would make more sense to me as to why they would want to play classic.

- Because the new server doesnt have all the bullshit like banelords spamming tendrils,FZ and speed warps. Stuff that seriously is just plain frustrating not fun..
- No FOP to extend fights much longer than what they should be (especially multi group fights, bridges and tower fights)
- No artifact levelling or camping and the griefing that goes along with it.
- No five hour raids that you have to go on.
- A chance to make a mark if you are a newer player

 

[Gamah]

People that think Classic servers are good for casual players are wrong, all that will happen is the good guilds will move to classic and farm the zerg, happens on Lamorak..will happen on a Euro one. I am personaly bored with zergfest Lamorak, you can't solo because a vamp will just insta pwn you, and I hate pugs roll on cluster <o/

 

[UndyingAngel]

and u will h8 teh zerg when the cluster comes..

 

[Gamah]

and u will h8 teh zerg when the cluster comes..

Maybe so but I am better equiped to deal with it.

 

[Ballard]

People that think Classic servers are good for casual players are wrong, all that will happen is the good guilds will move to classic and farm the zerg, happens on Lamorak..will happen on a Euro one. I am personaly bored with zergfest Lamorak, you can't solo because a vamp will just insta pwn you, and I hate pugs roll on cluster <o/

You think you have experienced a casual players viewpoint when you say 'I hate pugs'. If you ran in a few pugs you would get plenty of low RR fg fights and also 2-5 fg vs 2-5 fg fights aswell (otherwise known as zerg wars). How do I know this? because I sometimes run in them.

And regarding soloing I think we all knew that these servers were not going to be a soloers paradise didnt we? I mean no buffs man!!?!? That said I beleive there is alot more soloing done on ector and gareth.

 

[mirieth!]

not sure whether the above poster is on about pugs in europe, or on classic servers. however, having played in both euro pugs and classic server pugs - the difference is massive. the average yank random is about as usefull as a retarded special needs child trying to play with daoc with a psx controller.

all in all, unless you have a good guild, or ideally a set 8man - you're never going to get good rvr on lamorak. if you do, it's great fun. addmitedly, however, after the initial 'excitement' it's not all that different, it's nice to have a bit of a change and all but just as you get rid of the annoying things about toa - you gain other annoying things: the main bugbear being playing with yanks (as biggoted as that may sound, i honestly can not stand 90% of them), then you have overpowered determination totally buttfucking casters, meaning group setups become rather stale.

 

[Gamah]

You think you have experienced a casual players viewpoint when you say 'I hate pugs'. If you ran in a few pugs you would get plenty of low RR fg fights and also 2-5 fg vs 2-5 fg fights aswell (otherwise known as zerg wars). How do I know this? because I sometimes run in them.

And regarding soloing I think we all knew that these servers were not going to be a soloers paradise didnt we? I mean no buffs man!!?!? That said I beleive there is alot more soloing done on ector and gareth.

I did run in pugs, and now I hate them..because of Lamorak..I don't see the fun in sticking to another group and zerging everything 2,3,4,5 fg's vs one, while some retarded Yank yells at you for not healing "HEY MAN WHY YOU NOT HEALING" "well, BECAUSE I AM A FUCKING BERSERKER" (True story )

 

[UndyingAngel]

lol gamah.. :< its so true as well T_T

 

[RS|Phil]

It looks like a massive majority of people will be moving over to classic then. A good third of current players moving for good, and up to 50% looking into it.

I think this is great news. Personally I'll probably move over. DAoC, for me, is a bit stale. I like to play loads of different toons and I honestly just don't have the patience or time to get them all TOA'd out (MLs and artis).

Honestly, I get toons to 50 now and think to myself "Right now I need to make a template, find out what Artis I want.... then see if there's any ML raids coming on in the next few months....ah bollocks I can't be arsed." Most of my 50s just sit there gathering dust. Occasionally whip out the three that are TOA'd and get bored of being pwned by casters (not a caster fan so I can't keep up with TOA'd out Sorcs and Banshees etc) and play an Alt again.

Thing is I'm actually out of character slots now and have nothing to XP - so for me, being able to play a classic server on another realm without having the crap to do once you get to 50 is a God-send. Not to mention I'm a HUGE fan of the NF Battlegrounds... Why? Cos ToA doesn't affect the game there! I'm really looking fwd to playing in a HUGE level 50 BG and so are literally hundreds of other people pissed off with ToA. And that's not even counting the people that will come back.

 

[LawBringer]

Totally agree with you on this Phil - and having just logged back onto Pryd and finding not only missing Arti's but ML steps missing aswell.

Only 1 thing I will disagree with you about is ----

Heretics are stupid

Heretic is not a mad wtfpwn class compared to the others - actually a nice rounded toon that breathes life back into Alb where active clerics are a rarity - I got one so I am biased - and tbh find myself being more of a healer in groups than getting to Tic - but great class without the overpowered-ness of the others which are all stupid

Although I have not tried a Catacomb yet - what realm is that class on

 

[RS|Phil]

Totally agree with you on this Phil - and having just logged back onto Pryd and finding not only missing Arti's but ML steps missing aswell.

Only 1 thing I will disagree with you about is ----



Heretic is not a mad wtfpwn class compared to the others - actually a nice rounded toon that breathes life back into Alb where active clerics are a rarity - I got one so I am biased - and tbh find myself being more of a healer in groups than getting to Tic - but great class without the overpowered-ness of the others which are all stupid

Although I have not tried a Catacomb yet - what realm is that class on

Hehe that's just my sig tbh. I made that after I played Cata for a week and was just one shotting people with my WL, being on the receiving end of a Banshee CaE, and seeing a vamp take out everyone at will in BG5. I was like - Well what's the point in playing a non Cata toon now? :-/

But yeh Heretics are ok - only thing I think is stupid is the monster rez. Needs to be on a timer.


Back on topic, I reckon enough people will vote on GoA's site in favour of classic servers they'll make one for sure. I've even spoken to some people that left after ToA and they said they'd come back to play again so its looking good for it.