Castable stun

[Ckiller]

i thought since i havent QQed bout it in quite a while it was time for a new Castable stun on DMG classes thread

This time im adding a poll

 

[jolt]

i think hibcaster should get a baseline stun, but it shouldnt be 9sec, it should be like 5 or 6 sec orso

 

[censi]

yer like hib casters are so OP for the magic realm.

 

[Haggus]

Stupid poll as all hibbies will say yes and others will say no, so theres your answer.

 

[Faril]

its great, love when they stun my zerk

ml6 spammage <3

 

[Calo]

Stupid poll as all hibbies will say yes and others will say no, so theres your answer.

I took "yes i do" and im a mid!!

 

[Brack]

As censi said even with baseline stun a mid caster group >>>>>>>>> a hib caster group

 

[Majsan]

its great, love when they stun my zerk

ml6 spammage <3

like you live that long

 

[echekiel]

castable stun is ok but not 9sec it should be less like 5sec as it can be hard for a tank to get to close combat with 9sec stun

 

[Ocalinn]

yes nerf smite clerics tbh

 

[Arumos]

stun is nice but its overatted, they have no other form of crowd control, chanter anyway

for example if a pet is comin towards me i can control it for 9 seconds, i'd then have to make the choice of killing the pet in the 9 seconds or somehow stunning the pet user aswell (which at this time i'm sure hes nuking me or interupting), probably pet comin unstunned and interupting me before i kill him, therefore rendering me useless for the rest of the fight.

yes I do prefer stun over root, however its not overpowered as I once thought.

and tbh i think stun is a valued payoff for facing warlock+bd, feel sorry for albs in some ways....well...almost

edit: not gunna bother mentioning det5 tanks...o...err...nm

 

[liloe]

castable stun is ok but not 9sec it should be less like 5sec as it can be hard for a tank to get to close combat with 9sec stun

must be hard to get stunned for 1 second as tank, I truly feel for them.....

 

[Faril]

like you live that long

ususally do cept vs bainshee grps who cant play fair

 

[Naffets]

must be hard to get stunned for 1 second as tank, I truly feel for them.....

Yeah the stutter in fps must be horrible

 

[Raven]

get proper resists and resist classes and say hello to stun imunity after you are stood there for 4 secs on a caster or 1 sec on a det tank.

 

[Rockk]

I cant say that i agree on Casters having 9 sec stun
hell they nerfed DF 9 sec stunn from Infils etc cus it made em to OPed ppl said but what is a solo player that gets stunned for 9 sec then nuked for 400+ ? he is dead so it's the same thing imo 5 sec stun is ok tho
would be nice if All casters had it tho, SM Caby,wiz,runemaster + hib casters
cant say WL's need it nor do sorc as they have mezz

 

[Kanim]

ususally do cept vs bainshee grps who cant play fair

and aftermath, get us, get savage conclave addgrp free is fair ?

 

[Haggus]

Ok, why not give all casters a 9 sec stun and then see how everyone likes it? xD

 

[Mastade]

Not all hib casters have 9sec stun

 

[Jeriraa]

Ok, why not give all casters a 9 sec stun and then see how everyone likes it? xD

Yeah, or just give dem hib casters some decent cc... what about a root? or a high-percentage snare?

Am I biased? Yes I am. I hate getting stunned after blowing moc to keep a chanter from nuking the snot out of me. I hate getting stunned and nuked to shit when I pop my head over the battlement of a keep or tower.

But and thats unbiased: Its only logical to nerf that stun... it wasnt just Mids who complained about Dragonfang being an unfair advantage was it? Dragonfang, a style that requires 1274 spec points and is only usable when you evade was adjusted.
A stun that has the same duration, 1500 range, is uninteruptible when quickcasted and requires 0 spec points to get shouldnt?

 

[Deadnala]

i want to trade my stunn for albi cast in 1 sec combo: mezz nuke nuke die or for a lifdrain that damage 600+ or even a spammable DD on tanks instead. allso 5 CC types would be nice (thinking of mids) i can continue for hours if you want. Anyway baseline stunn isnt that OP as you guys claim.
enough said,

 

[Stallion]

stun has it advantages, but so does singel target root. or singel target mezz/snare... its just verry situational..

 

[Void959]

get proper resists and resist classes and say hello to stun imunity after you are stood there for 4 secs on a caster or 1 sec on a det tank.

Most solo albs can't justify a friar bot just for hib stun unfortunately.

But... agrd its not too OP, even solo where its most effective theres still CB/purge(even level1) not to mention charge, pets, etc. or my favourite, traitors mists

 

[Neffneff]

stop comparing a castable, interuptable stun to dragon fang..its 2 completely different things that ar enot alike in anyway except the stunning componant.

if im not mistaken.. melee stuns actually live out there durations...good sists+caster sists = half duration alrdy on castable. add in determination and it doesnt really matter that much does it?

or is everyoe just whining cos they're too tight to fork out 15 RSPs for purge2 or something?

 

[Corran]

stun has it advantages, but so does singel target root. or singel target mezz/snare... its just verry situational..

If purge is down stun > all. It that simple. Especially in solo fights. Not that you need it stallion as you abuse DPS debuff to interupt casters in 1vs1 if your losing

 

[Faril]

If purge is down stun > all. It that simple. Especially in solo fights. Not that you need it stallion as you abuse DPS debuff to interupt casters in 1vs1 if your losing

its not an abuse and why shouldnt he use? Not like you wouldnt use bl's if u bl tank, or instalifetap/bodydebuff if u were bd

 

[Jeriraa]

stop comparing a castable, interuptable stun to dragon fang..its 2 completely different things that ar enot alike in anyway except the stunning componant.

if im not mistaken.. melee stuns actually live out there durations...good sists+caster sists = half duration alrdy on castable. add in determination and it doesnt really matter that much does it?

or is everyoe just whining cos they're too tight to fork out 15 RSPs for purge2 or something?

a) That stun cant be interrupted if you dont want it to be interrupted.
b) 4.5 secs are enough to kill your target in 80% of the time.
c) The majority of classes doesnt have determination.

 

[Puppet]

castable stun is ok but not 9sec it should be less like 5sec as it can be hard for a tank to get to close combat with 9sec stun

Ehm, you're just making the case STRONGER for the stun. The stun lasts on a tank with decent resists and Determination/Stoicism like 2 seconds. A root for 70+ seconds however lasts alot longer.

In the case of a tank, any whine about baseline stun is just bullshit nowadays. And LOL comparing with Dragonfang. You got 2 other 9sec-stunner stealthers in your realm, which forced me to spec Purge3 on my Nightshade. Time to do the same perhaps on your char if you are so bothered with stun from Hibs.

 

[Jeriraa]

its not an abuse and why shouldnt he use? Not like you wouldnt use bl's if u bl tank, or instalifetap/bodydebuff if u were bd

Healers attackspeed debuff has been made non-interrupting. Savage taunt has been changed to a castable spell.

That DPS debuff is still interrupting. And, lo and behold a new class was implemented that not only got a silly high delve baseline nuke and can dish out ridiculous ae damage with no falloff but also has a very long range taunt that interrupts...

 

[Bubble]

I think baseline stun is a good part of that class.