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DaGaffer

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The 1-series hatch always looks like its carrying too much weight too far back so you end up with a kind of nose-up stance at the front (the surfacing is also all over the place, but that's a Bangle thing; you either buy into it or you don't, but BMW are abandoning extreme surfacing now).

Transverse engined hatches, by throwing the centre of mass forward, tend to have a more nose-down stance and that gives the impression of dynamism. I tend to look it like a bike, most hatches are like a racing bike with the weight hunched like the bike rider over the front wheel, whereas the 1-series looks more like a recumbant; it might be effective, but its a damn site less pretty.

The coupe 1-series works better because the impression of a tail (the boot) takes weight away from the rear wheel, pushing the cabin towards the centre of mass.
 

DaGaffer

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I just really like the C30, especially the Polestar edition :p

Whats not to like?
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Shame they'll never make the Polestar, although apparently Volvo are setting up a proper sports division a la M-Sport or AMG. So maybe you'll see some decent hot Volvos in future (I'm actually a big fan of current Volvo design; I think the V60 and XC60 are both great pieces of design, and the interiors aren't German-technical-boring either).

Jason Castriota got quite a kicking in the trade press for his new design direction at Geneva (this PhoeniX concept), but I think if you look at the nose and the bottom half and ignore all the silly wings and aero-inspired glasshouse, there's actually an interesting design language there, sort of a modern version of the old Saab 2-stroke designs.
 

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Lethul

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Shame they'll never make the Polestar, although apparently Volvo are setting up a proper sports division a la M-Sport or AMG. So maybe you'll see some decent hot Volvos in future (I'm actually a big fan of current Volvo design; I think the V60 and XC60 are both great pieces of design, and the interiors aren't German-technical-boring either).

Jason Castriota got quite a kicking in the trade press for his new design direction at Geneva (this PhoeniX concept), but I think if you look at the nose and the bottom half and ignore all the silly wings and aero-inspired glasshouse, there's actually an interesting design language there, sort of a modern version of the old Saab 2-stroke designs.

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*drool*
 

old.user4556

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Quite fancy one of these next, seems to have the best of both worlds.

BMW 123d

Great torque, not exciting to drive.

The 1-series hatch always looks like its carrying too much weight too far back so you end up with a kind of nose-up stance at the front (the surfacing is also all over the place, but that's a Bangle thing; you either buy into it or you don't, but BMW are abandoning extreme surfacing now).

Transverse engined hatches, by throwing the centre of mass forward, tend to have a more nose-down stance and that gives the impression of dynamism. I tend to look it like a bike, most hatches are like a racing bike with the weight hunched like the bike rider over the front wheel, whereas the 1-series looks more like a recumbant; it might be effective, but its a damn site less pretty.

The coupe 1-series works better because the impression of a tail (the boot) takes weight away from the rear wheel, pushing the cabin towards the centre of mass.

I like the 1 series hatch a lot. I don't agree it looks unbalanced at all; a wheel in each corner, engine mounted far back, even weight distribution and rear wheel drive. And it works. It really fucking works.

The handling of the 1 series is superb and the straight six of the 130i is sublime. This has carried across into the Coupé and both Evo & Clarkson simply love the 1 M. My only beef with the 1 series is that to enjoy the sublime handling you need a pretty smooth road; it's far too bouncy and crashy on our roads which ends up doing your head in. Throw in the run flat tyres and it gets worse.
 

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He is the wizard of aids, he controls them, so you do. Sorry.
 

old.user4556

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Wazz is the Wizard of AIDS, not Gaff.
 

Lethul

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So does anyone have a BMW 318d/320d Touring? Or is it called E91 in UK? :) Is it niiiice?
 

old.user4556

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Don't have one, but had a 318d M Sport for a couple of days as a courtesy car. I liked it, good car, very solid, comfortable and the M Sport suspension seems to be much more supple than the 1 series M sport suspension.

I'd go for the 320 over the 318 though, much punchier engine for only slightly less economy.
 

old.user4556

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Back on topic, got a letter from BMW this morning. That's it done and dusted without any payment other than the mileage penalty. Great stuff :D.
 

DaGaffer

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Oh, I meant to say; have you seen the new 1 series?

The worst looking new car for quite some time.

New BMW 1 Series revealed - June - 2011 - Which? News

Yeah I was saving that as my ultimate "proof the one-series is one wonky-looking motherfucker" argument. Its odd because all the other recent BMWs (5, 6, 7, Z4, X3) are stylistic improvements on their predecessors, and from what I've seen of the 3-series that looks like it will be as well.
 

TdC

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my new car woe is in! sorry for the uber crappy phone pic heh!
 

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Wazzerphuk

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My car is so l33t I can't even find a picture of the right model on google.
 

Punishment

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230bhp diesel Bora ftw

Stage 2 chip wrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooommmm

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My next car will be ....

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The craftmanship and sheer manhours that went into that car just makes me all sniffley
 

Reno

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Is that the key on the passenger seat?
A bit dangerous to leave it in the car while the window is down tbh :)
 

TdC

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yeah that's a pretty sweet VW there dude :)
 

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Very nice car teeds... dont they have a reputation for breaking down and catching on fire on a weekly basis ? Alfa's that is.


on a side note, I belive I've just made one of the most practical purchases ever...

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I started out looking at all the "cool" cars within price range, then I looked at all the big ass cars within price range, then feeling the wieght of familylife,
responsibility and all that, and taking practicality. danish car & Petrol prices plus the insane danish taxes into account..well....
I've come to the conclusion, I'm old I'm whiped and I'm Happy with my choice! :p
 

TdC

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heh I actually have my first issue with it, Olga :)

no, not electrical...

no, not mechanical...


I can't get the caps off the rear tyres air valves, both left and right. front ones fine, rear ones were screwed on by someone with fingers of friggin steel :(

still, nice family car you got there dude :D
 

Mabs

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I started out looking at all the "cool" cars within price range, then I looked at all the big ass cars within price range, then feeling the wieght of familylife,
responsibility and all that, and taking practicality.

lol i know how that feels.
got my new car just before last xmas, family live 300 miles away, + child = sadpanda
 

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