Camp X-ray

[Tom]

Met this guy today, while doing some filming for Panorama. He was at an Amnesty International meeting in UMIST, Manchester, also there was the father of another 'detainee', who has yet to be released.

BTW One of the reasons the Taliban thought he was a spy was because he had a digital clock radio in his possession!

Some of the things he mentioned while chatting to the father were appauling. It made me think of Bowling for Columbine, and Michael Moore's assertion that Americans were afraid of everything they didn't understand, and perhaps this fear has led to the detainees current situation, where they have no access to legal advice.

My own view is that any security issues with legal advisers are just a risk that you have to take, and that the freedom and liberty of a minority are just as important as the potential for violence/death against a majority.

I also find it a bit odd now, that UK citizens could be held for so long, with our government doing nothing for their plight. Makes you wonder, what kind of deals went on in the background, that such an important PR stunt for our government went unused.

 

[TdC]

gah, the things he tells of in the link are terrible

 

[Mr.Monkey3]

I say release them all.

If one of them does later kill several people as part of a terrorist cell, that's the price of liberty.

 

[Cyfr]

Is there any proof that these things happened? Im not saying the guys lieing but it would be better with proof

 

[GekuL]

I can't say I'd believe anything a paper like the mirror prints to be perfectly honest.

 

[SilverHood]

Some of tgem were blatantly terrorists, or affiliated with them.

The treatment at that camp does seem over the top... but who's gonna step up for them? We probably won't know what really happend (or what is happening) for another 10-20 years...

 

[Tom]

Some of tgem were blatantly terrorists, or affiliated with them.

Thats got to be the most fucking stupid thing I've read here for a long time. And I don't care if you disagree, I don't want to hear your side, because I've already made my mind up. Someone told me you're stupid, therefore there must be some truth in it.

Sarcasm aside, there probably is.

:touch:

 

[Mr.Monkey3]

Thats got to be the most fucking stupid thing I've read here for a long time. And I don't care if you disagree, I don't want to hear your side, because I've already made my mind up. Someone told me you're stupid, therefore there must be some truth in it.

Sarcasm aside, there probably is.

:touch:

What? That I'm stupid? Or you are stupid? Or Silverhood?

Or the terrorists? Or the guys at camp xray?
Damn. I'm all confused now.


Who are the bad guys again?

 

[fatbusinessman]

Seeing as his quote was from SilverHood, I surmise that he's saying SilverHood is stupid.