[RANT] BW are balanced!

Discussion in 'Warhammer' started by Belgerath, Oct 24, 2008.

  1. klasa

    klasa Loyal Freddie

    Yes we can see the problem, the thing is that we want a balanced game. IMO order has one class that can tip the balance in a scenario and it's not the BW.

    Crying that a DoK has the same DPS as a WL just shows how much thought (none) you've put in to this post. WL is a DPS class, it's supposed to do damage. DoK is a healer. I would love to see a Wl with the same healing abilities as a DoK.

    Great ideas from destro side on game balance hope you get a spot on the dev team :cheers:
  2. pikeh

    pikeh Resident Freddy

    I think Hawk meant WP?
  3. Hawkwind

    Hawkwind FH is my second home FH Subscriber

    Apologies meant WP, not enough coffee this morning :)
  4. Ctuchik

    Ctuchik FH is my second home

    where did i say that?
  5. klasa

    klasa Loyal Freddie

    You didn't understand why destro classes needed adjusting if BW's are nerfed if I recall correctly. If you play order you will notice that you loose quite alot. If you nerf the class that shines what do you expect will happen?

    The risk is major imbalance between the realms. So in one mirror class BW in comparison to Srocs there is an imbalance and the amount of destro whine that brings is amazing.

    Do you see white lions complain about their pet being bugged having damage lower then amaruder (at least at lower teirs can't vouch for endgame). No

    Ergo alot of destro players appears to be whining when they actually die to a order class. And it appers that you are suggesting changes that will puerly benfit your own realm instead of game balance. Do you see the point or will you just cry nerf BW!!!!
  6. klasa

    klasa Loyal Freddie

    Point taken, cheers!
  7. pikeh

    pikeh Resident Freddy

    What server are you on?
    It's pretty equal from my experience on KEP.
  8. klasa

    klasa Loyal Freddie

    Karak Hirn, my experience is that the game is pretty balanced that's why I'm afraid of major nerfing of one class. I think that the 1.05 patch is promising.

    It seems like BW's will be getting a nerf whcih IMO is OK since there seems to major rework of alot of classes. Apart from playing a swordmaster I also have a shadow warrior and trust me, even if it's a ranged dps class it's just impossible to compete with a BW so I'm hoping for some love.
  9. Hawkwind

    Hawkwind FH is my second home FH Subscriber

    No one wants to see them completely nerfed, just the insta dots adjusted. No class in the game should be able to do that kind of damage at bolt range and on the move, period.

    I would be happy to see the same dots on 2 or 3 sec casts. Or replaced by AoE DD's. You have to admit three dots doing 300 up to 1.4k damage (biggest I've had on me) a tick is a bad joke.

    It's akin to the original Warlock in DAOC. Played by anyone with half a brain they could kill anything in a few seconds, heavy tanks included. They got nerfed but not that badly, still played very effectively by a number of players.
  10. `mongoose

    `mongoose One of Freddy's beloved

    I think hawk's hit the nail on the head there.

    I do know that a dot spec sorc, played well can do the same dps as a bw however. It just seems that we don't have as many sorcs at t4 as Order have BW. Once the class population evens out I think we'll see more tweaks as classes start to perform as they can.

    Personally I still think the White lion is a massively under-rated class. I've got a low level one and I love him - his speed and ability to either guard flanks in scenarios or pick out healers and squishy dps classes for a good twatting is second to none.

    When it comes to threats - I find with my 39 shammy that the main pita classes for me are BW first then WL second. Mainly because a well played WL will do exactly what I do @ lower levels - look for stragglers who are focussing elsewhere and pounce on them before they can retreat to the herd for safety of numbers. BW are the subject of this thread and trying to out heal their focus fire is so difficult without alot of help :)

  11. Xandax

    Xandax Loyal Freddie

    Could be because of the "state" of BWs ;)
  12. aika

    aika Can't get enough of FH

    DoK>WP simply because of covenant of celerity, I really wanna see it toned down if we are talking about nerfs here
  13. pikeh

    pikeh Resident Freddy

    See now thats a good suggestion.
    CoC on its own isnt that amazing, but the tactic that makes it 60% should be reduced to 40% or even 30%. Or even move it higher up the Tort tree.
  14. Hawkwind

    Hawkwind FH is my second home FH Subscriber

    Totally agree, problem is that you don't often see them played well. Far too often just see them following SM's in and bashing tanks. That Lion Snare is just Evil and they can hit like a truck. Their speed and Pounce ability gives them the option of picking out the squishys a lot easier than say a DoK/Marauder. Great looking DPS class, will definitely roll one as alt eventually.

    Celerity on DoK should be toned downed to equal that of other snares. Agree that it is OP as it stands with the tactic.

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