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From the thread just below this one ;)

Poag said:
BoB got disbanded by a disheartened director.

He gave the GIA access to the BoB director area [they already had but one more account = yay] handed over all the assets in the corp hangers/walletand disbanded the alliance.

Not an account hack all done by the owner of the account aparently...so it'll probably stick.


Fun and games....time to carve delve up...


EVE Files: MITTANI.MP3 For the audio write up....not listened to it myself so be warned may contain strong language and general goonyness...aka....racism

taB said:
Haargoth Amarr had director access to the Alliance holding corp and disbanded it (or it was hacked petitions will establish - unlikely as Darius is a CSM bod and won't want to fuck that up).

Blows the game wide open as Sov 4 will drop in all their systems. No jumpbridges, cynojammers etc...

Oh and Band of Brothers is now a corp owned by Darius Johnson in the Goonswarm alliance.

The Eve-O link is pretty shitty.

Have a look at failheap-challenge

and Kugutsumen
 

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this deserve own thread because is EPIC :lol:
 

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News:

ISD said:
Band of Brothers Alliance Disbanded
reported by: ISD Clarity Brown | 2009.02.05 09:12:20


NOL-M9 - A few hours after midnight on 05.02.111, Band of Brothers alliance was disbanded. The loss of formal alliance status forcibly relinquished all Band of Brothers held sovereignty, and thus is expected to render all their outposts vulnerable, abort the construction of all motherships and titans currently being built in their capital assembly arrays and interfere with the proper fuctioning of cynojammers and jump bridge waystations at their control towers. This effect has never been seen before on such a huge scale, so there is much uncertainty about the precise effects.


There are currently multiple theories as to the actual cause of the disbanding of the alliance. A director in Band of Brother's executor corp, TinFoil, and director Haargoth Agamar of Black Nova Corp are alleged to have disbanded the alliance and handed over Black Nova Corp assets at the instigation of The Mittani of Goonswarm. Comments on the Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions section of GalNet, however, shed doubt on this claim.


Tin Foil pilot Agaue asserted on GalNet that the disbanding was not caused by a spy:


"I like how everyone is stating their opinions like it is fact... when in truth they have no idea what happened. I will state as a fact:

"1) it wasnt a bill/money issue.
"2) it wasnt spy related.

"Mittani isnt dumb enough to put his hand up and say he is responsible."


Elitus of Reikoku stated on GalNet that the issue was not an unpaid bill:


"I'll go and say this: previous bill was paid on the 6th of Janurary. Previous bill before that was paid on the 6th of December. Currently looks like HAT was compromised... Log shows 500 mil was removed from the wallet stating 'mittani says hi.' We are investigating."


A new corporation named "Band of Brothers" has been created, allegedly by GoonSwarm affiliates, in an apparent attempt to keep the alliance name and ticker out of the hands of former BoB members.


The Mittani further claims on GalNet that he has archived the Band of Brothers directorial forum and will be publishing it in full for the public eye.


The Interstellar Correspondents are looking into this story in-depth and will bring you updates and interviews in the coming hours as we attempt to learn the truth behind these events and their consequences.
 

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awww, now who are we gonna whine at? :( Goon or AAA?
 

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Bob directors are screaming at there members to not evac, that ccp will fix it.


There is a continuous stream of jfs and transports leaving the area.

Goons and friends are destroying csaa's and pos's ATM.
 

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Friking working late tonight :(

Wanna go freighter hunting in Aridia!
 

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I have no idea what all this means, just guess work really but I do like following the changes in the big map thingies :D
 

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I have no idea what all this means, just guess work really but I do like following the changes in the big map thingies :D
one man royally fucks other 3000 players
short explication
 

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Well this is quite funny. What are all the other alliance bum chums going to do now without a bad guy to fight?

I dislike most 0.0 alliances. Not one of them has tried to build anything other than a giant tool for the extraction of minerals. But then the game mechanics don't make that easy.

Mark my words Bob's failure will eventually become Eve's failure. Whats the point of all the effort of running an alliance?

You can only take playground politics so far before it grows old very fast.
 

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Should hear the eve radio interview by diannabolic then 'we didn't want that alliance anyway'

BoB aparently are sitting on there thumbs for a CCP fix....aparently
 

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Well it is really shit mechanics that can allow an alliance of that size to be disbanded at the drop of a hat. Very very poor design. As for the drama - I had a look at the COAD posts - a waste of time.
 

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Well it is really shit mechanics that can allow an alliance of that size to be disbanded at the drop of a hat. Very very poor design. As for the drama - I had a look at the COAD posts - a waste of time.

Yup, someone asked on CAOD why Haargoth was still in BNC...

I pointed out that it takes 24 hours to drop roles and kick an individual (or even remove yourself) but only seconds to disband the whole shebang!
 

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Tholarim said:
security: crap
bob pilot participation: crap
counterintelligence: crapperdecrap
pilot skillevels: crap
fc's: non bob are all crap

Face it guys. In all fairness we have become something imo we would never become. And it makes me cry just looking at our fleets/ts now. We should really think about the options we have from this point on. And imo a completely new vision is needed. In short: RESTRUCTURE AND RESET.

Opinions?

Or should we stay bloated like we are now?

Thol.

the porn is hot
:lol::lol::lol:
 

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Looks like fun times for all ahead:

Molle said:
* Around 0100evt last night Haargoth Agamar using his director alt in the HAT holding corporation stole 8bil ISK and disbanded the alliance.

RESULT: All alliance funds are stored in personal accounts of the CEOs, hence the amount of stolen isk is small. All titan and MS BPOs are always in full lockdown so none was lost. All BOB prize ships are stored in secure account, none were lost. Some jump fuel and POS's were stolen, but the worth of these are under couple billion isk.

* Around 0115evt BNC corp hangars and wallet were robbed. This resulted in the loss of about 20-25 dreads they had for backup + under 10 billion in ISK. All ships and majority of BNC warstock are in BNC.E, those were not affected. Mass isk storage of BNC was not affected.

RESULT: BNC will cope with this easily.

* Leadership forums have been copied. And they are claiming they will be published shortly by kugutsumen.

REASON: The player of Haargoth played clever tricks to get past the voice verification to acquire the secret password to get into leadership forum. Hence, Barra de los Jefes was copied.

RESULT: You get to review all leadership actions throughout the history of BOB. Enjoy, there is some really cool old shit there. We have nothing to be ashamed of.

OUTCOME: Well, atleast the speculation that our intelligence is crap will end, becouse alot of our spies will get burned due those logs in that forum. But, our spies are persistent and will get their positions back.

What happens next - What should I do?

* Delve War 2 will begin. What is important to understand now is that this is a game and we have been just given the biggest opportunity ever to have so many fights per day its not even funny. Excitement on the FC ranks is insane, because this will be the biggest source of PVP we have seen since Delve war 1.

* We lost all SOV in Delve. Alliance will regroup in H-ADOC today starting at 1730 (CAPITAL REGROUP)- 19.30 and 21.30 (CAPITAL REGROUP) - USTZ Regroup 0130 by Seijen. (US CAPITALS WILL MOVE AT THE WEEKEND!) Fleet will move together back to Delve to set up defences and protect it. Do not attempt to leeroy yourself into Delve alone, we will move together in an organized fashion.

* Warstocks in Delve have not been compromised and all of directorate are busy activating all resources and such to move enough gear into Delve to give any motherfucker trying to get our shit a run for their money. Delve war part 2 is about to begin.

* Important is to understand that before logging in you check in TS that its safe to log in. If you have logged out on an pos that is not owned by your corporation you will bounce to fuck. All corporations in BOB are relocating into Kenzoku to re-enable SOV claiming and allow us to use each others POS's. If you are a capital or supercapital pilot logged off in a POS not owned by your corporation - take extra precoution to ensure you have protection and password when you log in. If you are really fast and know the pos password before logging in, you have about 5-10 seconds to insert that password to get into the shields if system is not laggy directly from warp.

After you have safely logged in - join channel "homebob" without the " marks for alliance chat and x'ing up.

* If you are a POS manager of your corporation, make sure all your alts are in space in station systems of your corporation and you have all POS's bookmarked so you can strontium time easily. This goes to every corporation and thier pos managers, ensure that you are in space, ready to do timing in all core systems of your corporation.

* If you are a regular member, you can help the Delve defence by hauling gear closer to delve in empire. Spare ships, hacs, whatever you think you need, until alliance logistics have been re-routed. Do not attempt any leeroys from curse, all assests will be moved from curse to delve in a co-ordinated matter.

SPECULATION - SPECULATION

* Did Haargoth sell us out or was he hacked?

Was this account hack or not - we do not know. Everything points currently to a massive identity theft. Haargoth, acquired forum passwords by paging on MSN one senior BNC director to redo his BOB forums password. Haargoth re-acquired the Barra los Jefes password by claiming broken mic and doing a TS login with TSA to fool senior BNC.E to give Barra password without full voice inspection.

Haargoth is currently doing bootcamp for military - so hes very hard to get hold off. When we actually can talk with Haargoth, we will tell you which one this was.

Do not expect CCP to fix this - becouse in the end, if its full identity theft it will take weeks to figure out who actually is who, since Haargoth's email account that CCP uses for contacting owner is compromised.

* Why did they do it now? Why not wait?

REASON: We argue and yell alot behind closed doors - which is fun and keeps us motivated. Last night after long hour of arguing we agreed to tighten up the leadership group and do other rights based actions inside BOB, which is pretty normal BOB alliance leadership action from time to time. Haargoth was listening to this conversation and pieces off it has been put into various 3rd party sites. We assume that this scared Haargoth - becouse he would have been one of those people cut off from access. So they had a premature ejaculation and janked the alliance down before we could thighten our leadership group.

RESULT: They did not have gear in position and had to do this very fast.

* Who is coming to delve to fight us?

CURRENT INTEL: Goons, PL, SOT, KIA (lol) are confirmed. Rumored Razor and some other parts of NC.

ARRANGEMENTS: Naturally we are talking with our allies how to get some of these fucks to worry about their own space for a while.

* What is the outcome of this war?

SPECULATION: We will naturally look at this as Delve War 2 - pretty similar actions have been taken as were during Delve War 1. Its going to be harder as there is no bridges or jammers, but this will ensure even more combat in lagless enviroment thanks to the new system reinforcement technology provided by CCP. So, current outlook in alliance leadership is:

Quote:
13:44 <Molle> i see plenty of fights ahead
13:44 <Molle> love it
 

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Well this is quite funny. What are all the other alliance bum chums going to do now without a bad guy to fight?

I dislike most 0.0 alliances. Not one of them has tried to build anything other than a giant tool for the extraction of minerals. But then the game mechanics don't make that easy.

Mark my words Bob's failure will eventually become Eve's failure. Whats the point of all the effort of running an alliance?

You can only take playground politics so far before it grows old very fast.

Amen to that.
Who is a bad guy? Certainly not BoB. Goons have gotten a notorious reputation for being evil fuckwits in the game. EVE is also one of those games where alot of the fun is taken out by external factors. Such as attacks on TS/vent servers, account hacking, forum hacking, macros, ...
 

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If it turns out this was all done by a hacked account this is going to be one ungodly mess!
 

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Nah they guy did it legit - totally legit. Thats why it is even worse!!
 

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REASON: The player of Haargoth played clever tricks to get past the voice verification to acquire the secret password to get into leadership forum.

LOL! you dont have to be especially clever to get past the shitty voice verification on a fucking forum :)
 

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If it turns out this was all done by a hacked account this is going to be one ungodly mess!

aparently it wasn't. so theres really nothing CCP can do that wont make them crash and burn.
 

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aparently it wasn't. so theres really nothing CCP can do that wont make them crash and burn.

Fair enough then - however I hope CCP patch to fix the dissolve alliance bug that gets around the delay and the bug with sovereignty - it sure is a buggy game but kinda expected with its level of complexity :)
 

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At the end of the day it was just bad game mechanics that allowed it to happen, nothing more but it might get changed in the future.
 

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