Banelords Be Gone!

Stallion

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Stallion said:
heh not vs casters that know how to take care of themselfs..

I mean jesus, air pets are the fastest to do interrupt, but their stil slow compared to a banelord.

I mean ice pets
 

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Stallion said:
heh not vs casters that know how to take care of themselfs..

I mean jesus, air pets are the fastest to do interrupt, but their stil slow compared to a banelord.

Yep, people always had misconception about a theurgs ability. But that simply because they aren't that good themself. Im far from the best theurg in my mind, against good groups i have difficulty looking down more then 3 people for long, they know how to clear them, spread in a mannor that makes me move around to pet multiple people, force me into caster DD range to get near support etc etc.

That said, against a poor group i can interupt every support + caster, and then air pet spam the tanks so that can just nuke them and not worry about them getting out of range. That said, against that sort of group pets aint that important but least keeps you in practice
 

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Stallion said:
heh not vs casters that know how to take care of themselfs..

I mean jesus, air pets are the fastest to do interrupt, but their stil slow compared to a banelord.

Why on earth would you want air lol.... nice for handling the occasionaly moc'ing caster or support and useless pretty much for everything else. A good ice/aerth theurg can be a pretty rough interrupt machine tho and far far harder for casters to cope with than a banelord tank ever will be

And as far as clearing pets goes... sure, but as long as you keep people busy clearing pets you also keep them from doing their job ;)
 

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Gondath said:
Why on earth would you want air lol.... nice for handling the occasionaly moc'ing caster or support and useless pretty much for everything else. A good ice/aerth theurg can be a pretty rough interrupt machine tho and far far harder for casters to cope with than a banelord tank ever will be

And as far as clearing pets goes... sure, but as long as you keep people busy clearing pets you also keep them from doing their job ;)


Earth pets are pretty shit at interupting in the long term so not worth spec high in i found. With such low HP they die in single nukes no matter the level of spell. As such the lvl 12 pets as good as the level 48 pets for interupting. Sure they lose speed but you gain so much in return.

Ice pets are the best for interupting casters, yes. But any aoe spell including debuffs negate them as they go into melee. Leaving no reason to spec high in that either. Especially as between the level 25pet and the top one is about 7% damage on the pet nuke and that it.

So against a good group that means:

Earthpets - run into twf/ single aoe = all pets cleared - Bg blocks them

Ice - Single Aoe to put them into melee. Sure still interupt but then BG blocks them

Air - locks down someone no matter what, stick a few out and stun interupts quite reliably. Sure duration is lower but thats why you mix it in.


Against a decent group i would hate to be earth/ice or ice/earth. Air/ice is much better. Air pets cant be single aoe nuke killed in general. Stun interupts still, mix in ice and baby earth and you will have someone locked down for 10seconds minimum instead of the 2seconds it takes to cast a spell.

Air pets are good on alot the groups out there atm as well because they use a single tank for interupting. That means you can chain stun them and stop them retreating for heals as well. Air pets only get used on the good groups or moc, generally can stick to ice pets and baby earth with high dps nuke added to group damage meaning you got no worries about damage output or anything. But as said, a good theurg can lock down a few people in a decent group but not for a long time, 20-30seconds is the max lockdown you have on most people i find, no matter how many pets you get out there. Then you have to start again.
 

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2 earth pets and 1 ice pet (spec is 45wind 21/21)

that person is now interupted for 1min if no one attacks the pets.
 

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Haggus said:
2 earth pets and 1 ice pet (spec is 45wind 21/21)

that person is now interupted for 1min if no one attacks the pets.

Yes, if no one attacks the pets. Which means that aint a decent group/Good you are fighting. Fight a good group and they have people that have a roll to switch and take out pets if the need arises.

Lock down shit groups = easy to do and keep them locked down indefinately

Lock down decent groups = Tough to do, probably can lock down a few people for 15-30seconds

Lock down a good group = Very tough, someone will constantly clearing pets (hibs with banshee especially) meaning that you need constant pet supply. even with with 40%+ PP, champ weapon, jacina and pots you will be running out of power often. Someone will be onto you pretty quick to interupt etc etc.

For example. Any group that i run in, doesnt matter how many casters/tanks etc in it. If we meet Lollertroopers, I am the first target, tanks especially good at it. The likes of Waddle and Raid will whip my ass so bad :(
Yes i can lock down their support for a bit, but then Grawen will clear some pets of if need be and i will be kiting the tanks again. At no point, even if i put 5+ earth pets and ice pets (not that wouuld get chance) on every support/caster would they be interupted for a full minute :( Some people are just too good to let that happen.
 

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haha, as soon as savages are announced to get BL they bring this :D </3
 

Stallion

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Gondath said:
Why on earth would you want air lol.... nice for handling the occasionaly moc'ing caster or support and useless pretty much for everything else. A good ice/aerth theurg can be a pretty rough interrupt machine tho and far far harder for casters to cope with than a banelord tank ever will be

And as far as clearing pets goes... sure, but as long as you keep people busy clearing pets you also keep them from doing their job ;)

check my second post about the typo.
 

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