Bad Omen are complete rp whore arses imo

[Rigon-Noir-]

If i was still a regular DAOC player this post would worry me a great deal.
With so many new MMORPG's on the horizon, not just the big 2 (WOW & EQ2) either but so many more that will find a niche market and attract players, how will DAOC continue?

It's no secret that Mythic favours the hardcore player, it must do because progression of your char even after lvl 50 requires so much time and effort, thats time and effort that casual players just can't put in. The rift now appearing between the casual player and the hardcore player, with RA's, SC Armour and the like, all required to improve your char, is now getting so great that there is an almost zero chance a casual player in RvR is going to win anything.
Don't get me wrong, Mythic should reward it's hardcore players, but the rewards have, in themselves created an elite society within DAOC, one which no casual player has any chance of breaking into, as these forums so often prove (arranging a exping group on BW forums is one of the most ridiculous things i have ever seen and alienates other players before you even get online). So then, if the casual player has no chance, no new players are going to come either.

I think this will be one of the final nails in the DAOC coffin tbh, current players who are no longer prepared to put up with the elitist shite are going to have a choice, a much bigger choice than they have now (take a trip to mmorpgdot.com to see some of the games coming our way). They will move onto new games, as will most if not all of the people they get on with, both in and out of their respective guilds. New players won't be interested in DAOC, it looks dated and no amount of patches are going to make life there any easier, you'll still have to work hard, in most cases against other selfish people of the same realm so that rules them out.

What have we got left then, ahh yes, the elite hardcore players. Well i just hope there's enough of you to justify Mythic keeping the servers open but you only have yourselves and your attitude towards your fellow realm players to blame for it's decline.

One thing tho, you wont have the problem of having to tell people to FO when they are follwing your 1fg V 1fg only RvR group because there wont be anyone behind you, probably wont be anyone in front of you to kill either . You will have the frontiers to yourselves tho, for as long as they stay online.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Originally posted by old.moriath
Sure there is .... if there is something that i believe is wrong im going to take a stand. If i don't im not being true to myself.

You can't judge me right or wrong you can say itss wrong in your opinion but you can't say like you did its wrong period.

These forums are here to air issues. This is an issue I had. Now i very rarely start threads on BW which shows you how strongly i feel about it.

Both in thread title and content you are breaking the BW CoC by directly abusing fellow players. Aside from any personal considerations, thats why its wrong. Period

Nice debating skills though mate, even if logic is flawed

 

[eynar]

I often experience the same thing, when I leave the PK in Emain a full group or more (of no particular guild fyi) keep following me to leech rp, and when I ask them to stop following me cuz I like solo vs. fg fights they pretend they don't hear me...so basically that's why I don't have more rp atm.

 

[klavrynd]

Isn't it allways like this? The so-called "hardcore players" spend most if not all their spare time on the game, yet you wish to want em treated like people that play 5-6 hours a week ? As opposed to what you think, sc has made the gap less wide then before. Getting money is alot easier then farming some ubermob for a rare drop and in most cases you can get all stats capped with common drops, quest jewellery ( think scaffold web cloak, beaded resisting stones and the like) and a 99% set. Back before sc, people used to farm wow and other large mobs to get an item that would give them an advantage while now you only need cash ( i have about 3 times as much cash on my new toon as i had on klav when i levelled her before we had df)

arranging a exping group on BW forums is one of the most ridiculous things i have ever seen and alienates other players before you even get online

I think most people do play this game for the rvr, as the pve just isnt interesting anymore, especially if you went through the exp madness once (can you say malmö). I know for a fact that i don't ever want to do casual pve ever again. Fixed exp groups are better organised to reach their goal (quick exp).
Random exping takes ages before you have a half decent group together, and it'll probably fall apart very fast considering most people do not want to get through the process of explaining all game mechanics to people that play once a week ( how often have you pulled all hairs out of your head seeing the same person hit the mezzed mob for the 20th time, rm's pulling with bolts and tanks not knowing what taunt is, etc)

New players won't be interested in DAOC, it looks dated and no amount of patches are going to make life there any easier, you'll still have to work hard, in most cases against other selfish people of the same realm so that rules them out.

Right, exping has become easier and easier every patch. Don't you wonder how you ever got your main up to 50 without end regen, without si , without pbae, without DF ?

ps : it allways hurts me seeing some random guy in epic take away all the uberloot in TG

 

[old.moriath]

Originally posted by Roo Stercogburn
Both in thread title and content you are breaking the BW CoC by directly abusing fellow players. Aside from any personal considerations, thats why its wrong. Period

Nice debating skills though mate, even if logic is flawed

Im not targeting an individual, I am backing up my position with what i see is valid arguments ... and as its stated im not making a blanket generalisation just giving my opinion.


You would prefer me to put oo BO i dont think you are very nice chaps or something instead ?

Means the same thing except in a language that most people in BW understand.

Oh and if its against the CoC of BW then why hasnt the thread been deleted ? Its been at the top of the midgard forum for 24 hours or so now.

My arguements may be flawed but then most are and there has to be more than one side to a situation to have an arguement in the first place. But they are my feelings and arguments and i pay my pound to play the same as any others do. I have been told too many times to go somewhere else cause we killin these ppl and tbh i'm fed up with it i can kill which ever invaders I like and run where I like in the game world.

Too many 1337 ppl running round in this game thinking they own it and everyone should see it there way.

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by oldtimer
>Judging from the responses to this thread, why do I doubt he was asked 'politely' to stop following.

Amen to that.

where you there....no you where not, so plz dont make assumptions you cant back up in any way

btw : Blej you and your guildmates can call on me anytime , I dont mind playing with fellow n00b's

 

[Hargh]

If you don't have anything constructive to say, I was once told, don't say anything. So I won't.
Oh ok I will then, everyone else is voicing their opions
RvR is too elitist, rewards are given for the wrong things, gaining RP shouldn't be the end game it is and things like this wouldn't happen.
Also when was 1fg v 1fg a fair fight? Isn't one of our most debated topics aobut realm imbalance?

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by Tidus Morgahna
Yada yada yada I talk a lot of shit

why dont you piss off back to planeside, no one here gives a shit baout how you play 1942 or what ever...its about ONE player wanting the right to force HIS way of playing onto EIGHT other players..not right imho

 

[old.moriath]

and eight wanting to force their play on one

 

[Rigon-Noir-]

klavrynd

Firstly, yes, all players should be treat the same way regardless of how long they play. We're back to the subscription thing again and the same rules stand, you pay the same, you should get the same.

The gap isn't any closer due to the exact reasons of this post. Elitist groups/players wanting only their own involvement in RvR, generating RP's and thus further RA's. It already exists in realm that certain people/guilds will not do anything to assist other people/guilds, how the hell does that breed anything else other than bad feeling. The guild i'm a member of has GM Crafters in every skill, can you imagine if they only made gear for guild members, new guilds / players would be stuck. I know this isn't the bones of the topic here but in realm or out of it, the fact remains elitism is present and with attitudes like this will continue to divide the realms and drive players away.

I very much doubt "most" players play for RvR, if that was the case 90% of them would be 50 and have no need for exp.

Right, exping has become easier and easier every patch. Don't you wonder how you ever got your main up to 50 without end regen, without si , without pbae, without DF ?

It may have become easier, certainly once you know the realm and you know where to exp but it's still a long process. As for people who can get a char to level 50 in days or a week they don't do it by themselves so how the hell is it easier for a fresh player to DAOC? It still takes a lot of time and the point is that if during this time they come accross this selfish player attitude that is rampant in Midgard, it's highly unlikley they'll bother staying.

 

[Vim]

Originally posted by old.moriath
aye no right to tell me anything unless im breaking the CoC which i wasnt

Uhm if you are basically leeching rp aka "helping" their fg, they got all the rights to tell you to f*ck off. Or do you go and "help" fg's who are exping in DF too?

 

[Ardrias_Mid]

I just wish that everyone here that compares "leeching" in RvR, to leeching in PvE could be my boyfriends.
I'd love to surf your asses

 

[Rigon-Noir-]

Originally posted by Damon Doombring
why dont you piss off back to planeside, no one here gives a shit baout how you play 1942 or what ever...its about ONE player wanting the right to force HIS way of playing onto EIGHT other players..not right imho

Very mature Damon, ask an adult to explain it to you if you dont understand any of the words with more than 4 letters.

Simple answer is, i still play DAOC, i still have an account and as this is an opinion forum i will add my opinions to it.

Childish comments like that only point out how little you have of value to add.

BTW: it's not just about one player wanting to force HIS right onto eight others, if you actually read any of it, they are also trying to force their right on HIM.

 

[Rigon-Noir-]

Oh aye, i don't play 1942, sig says Planetside

 

[Azal]

Originally posted by Mid_Blejsarus
oki we are n000bs, .......
We are n000bs.....
I guess we are the noob ones....
..
Sorry for being such a noob :x

Taking quotes out of context rocks anyone want a new signature?

[edit] DAOC isn't geared towards powergamers anymore than most games are. Just the way RPG/MMORPG's work the more you put into your chars the more you get out (bit like life really ).

 

[DaggerElivager]

Damon i think u need to possibly think about way you replying. they are not funny, useful or polite and you just make yourself out to be a complete arse. i know they are your views but maybe u could write them out in a better way

If 3 mids were about with a fg of mids, then they should work together, the fg should not be elitist and think they are only allowed to run around emain or HW or wherever.

If a fg runs with another fg u could say one is leeching off the other but you wouldnt would you. You would say they Teaming or zerging. How does 2 diff fg working together differ from 1fg and a smaller grp? It doesnt, it is just the people in the fg thinking they are better than the smaller grp and wanting all the rp's

This thread might not have been put in the most diplomatic way but it is his opinoun and people should respect that.

We all have different views and should respect each other.

We all are part of a realm and if the realms argue with each other they will now get anywhere in PvP.

If they politely asked for him to stop following then there is a point to him respecting their wishes but what is the harm in 1 or 2 people, who in emain means being zerged to death sticking with another fg so they become a stronger team.

IMO moriath has done nothing wrong except try to survive and help him realm.

 

[cerbie]

- you get an elite player by knowing your character and play it the right way (that includes getting items)

- everyone can make an elite group, I think after this long time playing you know who you want in your group and who not. If you do so or not its personal and depending on the way you enjoy to play the game

- as for mori, you made this threat and you mentioned the name Blej. Well, they have fun in RVR'ing en getting rps, not much wrong with that. We all know Blej, we all know BO rans around on his own. And if you need some learning about doing RVR that is a group to be in, not if you want some fun. I can only say I admire Blejs way of doing RVR, but its not the way I like to do, so I would never think of running along with them because I would know what would happen. I think you knew it too.

Besides not much would happen if we don't have a blej or a Roo or a Durgi anymore : meaning organizing big raids and hunts

 

[Jasmino]

Guess its time Forsete's Circle took a stand in all this...


Pefect guild groups ruins alot of the game yet we run one each evening. Why? This is what you need to get the full out of the game imo.

Getting adds when fighting pisses me off aswell. It got nothing to do with me not wanted rps for my realm-mates but it ruins the experience I get from the game. Nothing is more fun in this game, than having a nice balanced fight with another balanced enemy group. Period!. Having someone on tag or another group that jumps in, just ruins the fun for me personally....

We always try to figure out if our realm mates are loosing or winning before we jump in, when we meet other groups fighting. If they're winning we leave them alone, and the other way around, if they're loosing, we jump in...

Now for the perfect groups running around Emain, Odins, HW ect :

It takes the experience from the game away from people who cant make such groups and its very frustrating and I see why people would tag along just to get some action/rps. Tbh I get both sides and noone is to judge who right or wrong. People play diffently and people who cant accept that , is just plain wrong and havent got any respec from me whatsoever.

Perfect groups : lighten up. People will "leech". Just make a sarcastic comment to them and hope they go somewhere else. Im not for telling someone what they can do or what they cant do. And for god sake; treat people who are new or unexperience with the same respect as you treat you best friend

 

[DaggerElivager]

^^wot she said

Go jasmino

 

[Ardrias_Mid]

You got a little moody at amg last night tho, Jasmino

When your group and our... think we were 5 or 6 fought some 2fg+ hibs, and there was "adds"

 

[cerbie]

As for Tidus, you don't play this game anymore, maybe you still have an account, but I don't think this gives you the right on judging the way we mids play our game.

When there is a keep attacked that we claim we get our fellow mids to help us very quickly so there is still some great playing together in the realm. Remember Renaris, great fun to defend it, no matter who claimed it.

As to start a new character is still fun to level. And there are a lot of nice places to explore, and new fun hunts to organize. Why not post hunts on BW, its nice to start a group,with members who are already sorted, when your guild isn't big enough.

Not everyone has a buffbot these days you know and some still like to group with other people then themselves.

Indeed, there will be other games and people will leave, thats the way it is, but we have our friends in game, which is very important to quite a lot of us.

 

[Jasmino]

Sarcastic remark fortehwin

 

[cerbie]

Oops Jasmino does this means we have to wait till your group is wiped out before coming in???

 

[Jasmino]

Originally posted by cerbie
Oops Jasmino does this means we have to wait till your group is wiped out before coming in???

Theres such a thing as commen sense...Dont tell me you cant figure out if your realm mates are winning or loosing?

Anyhow as i said, I'm not telling you what to do or what not to. Im just stating what we do ....thats it

We treat fellow mids as we want them to treat us. Accidents happens and they happen alot. But coming rushing as a full group into a fight with enemies down to half forces and killing the leftovers is nothing I would do...(Rps are nice but greed is not nice)

Edit : ohhh btw we never get wiped!!! /cough

 

[Glyph_mid]

Must apologize to you Ottar for last night, tbh I should have put more effort into seeing what numbers your group had

I did ask you to guard the zonewall, as we already killed 2fgs (i didnt know that there were THAT many hibs), and we ran after the one coming on the road, and no, we didnt get any deathspam because we turned around when you called for backup.

I missjugded the situation completely, thats why we ran with you on the second run

 

[zapzap]

Having people follow u around sux.
But there are diff ways telling them not to follow u.
Think we had a grey con skald runing after us 3 days, so nice to give healers pets like druids now.
Same way it sux when people wanna pull mobs from the spot u planed to farm.
But it's still a realm V realm game so be nice to realm m8s .
People add 70 % of fights in emain nothing to do, get over it move to next fight.
Personally I dont stop and see who is wining ,all have to die
Its not like u break the BAF code and next pull u get an extra mob .
If I see its a done batle i give a heal or stun the enemy and move on, but HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I NOT BEEN PMED AND GOTTEN THIS : YOU STUPID FUCK WHY DIDNT U HELP OR REZ.

Enemies move around mobs are in areas that can be pulled, so I dont think same rules goes for rvr.

Better say like klav does :
This is just my idears not my guilds, maybe they think the same maybe not.

Zapsi

 

[Rigon-Noir-]

Originally posted by cerbie
As for Tidus, you don't play this game anymore, maybe you still have an account, but I don't think this gives you the right on judging the way we mids play our game

And i'd just told Mori she hadn't had a pop at me, ahh well.

I do play Cerbie, not every waking moment of my life but i do play and whilever i'm involved in DAOC, i will post my responses to issues brought up here. regardless of what you or Damon think.

I still have my account and pay my subs because i believe i will be back at some point or other. When i don't think i'm going to play again, ill stop my subs.

I don't think you or Damon have the right to say who can and can't have any input on a forum, thats actually worse than the topic itself.

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by DaggerDeadly

If 3 mids were about with a fg of mids, then they should work together, the fg should not be elitist and think they are only allowed to run around emain or HW or wherever.

Why should I have to do anything..I'm paying to play this game the way I want too, If I think the one trailing after me is a git ( dont think that about you M.. atleast not until you posted here that is ) and I dont want to play with him , thats my god danm disission..

To Dagger Diddly.. I dont care if you think my post's are polite or not.. I'n RL and in the game I'm a very polite and and helpfull player , but here on this board I dont have to be polite when I see stuff like this crap being posted..nuff said

to Tidus ; well I didnt say you played 1942 , you yourself mentioned the game in you post gimp.. And when I reply in a non mature fascion its to ensure that you understand what I'm posting /dismisses the n00b

 

[Farnis]

So much hatred.

 

[Hargh]

It's actually man love.