[B]Helpful Tip for all Hibbies.[/B]

[Appendix]

The problem is, that by your adding on the fight going on down there, you'll ruin the fun they're having, its not fun for them winning, if they win just because they're outnumbering the enemy, anyone can win like that so ofcourse they're gonna be upset when you try to ruin it for them.

So you're basically saying that your fun is more important than my fun. This I would accept if and only if you were paying me to play the game.

 

[Fyric]

ofc its not, but do you really wanna have fun, when its on the cost of someone else?, theres plenty of fights going on thats not already been initiated.

adding on a fight might be funny for you, but it will ruin the entire fight for the 16 people already fighting, but do you care about them?

 

[Avrot]

Do you happen to know why they complain?

You do realise that fg vs fg is the only challenge left in this game for these players, and you ruin that by going oooooh rps for me, i dont care about those 16 people, as long as i get something for myself!

The problem is, that by your adding on the fight going on down there, you'll ruin the fun they're having, its not fun for them winning, if they win just because they're outnumbering the enemy, anyone can win like that so ofcourse they're gonna be upset when you try to ruin it for them.

It has absolutely nothing todo with these people being elitist pricks that only think about themselves, it has todo with the fact that these sorta fights is the only thing they pay to play this game for.

So before you jump to conclusions, how about you take a look at it from the other side of the fence?

Again I push for the Arena fights then if that's all they live for then someone push Goa to make arena maps for them. Then the realm players can defend the realm and those who only pay to have solo or grp fights can list themselves wanting grp v grp fights etc in zone map and not worry about adds. I have no objection to no adding IF there was some way of defining which hib prefers help, and which dose not in the intitial meeting on the battlefront. But this is realm V realm game as noted in the game, not grp v grp.

As for sitting on that side of the fence, I got the T-shirt and the footprints on my back from tits adding constantly when I used to play my ranger. Yes im sure its upsetting having adds, just likes its upsetting to be watching hibs fight, not engage and halfway through their fight as we are leaving be attacked by the same alb grp as we where moving off, killing our bard, and rooting the tank in grp, while still fighting the 1st hib grp. So yes next time I will instruct the grp to sit down and give free rps to the enemy because the other grp Must get its fair fight no adding.

So as I said at the start of this thread, don't go to the island, let the leet have there fun, that is the only way not to add on such a small island :touch:

 

[Libertine]

So far all i have seen from the 'island' is an increase in the leetness from certain members of this realm, whining and bitching at fellow hibs.

 

[Fyric]

well if you truely tried not adding, just why not run somewhere else instantly as soon as you see someone fighting that clearly does not want you to add on the fight?

seeing as you added on the last fight, im sure the mids or albs they we're fighting was sure you were gonna add, and when someone adds on these fights the adders will always be the first targets.

well, regarding the Arena addons are mythics department, goa just implements what mythic tells em too(more or less), and seeing as theres immense amounts of areas to rvr in, we probably won't get an arena as such. Personally I think of agramon as the arena you speak off really, only thing bloody annoying about agramon is the damn way you have to get their across the bridges filled with stealthers looking to attack(gifv porting like old emain)

 

[Appendix]

adding on a fight might be funny for you, but it will ruin the entire fight for the 16 people already fighting, but do you care about them?

Do I care about them? Do they care about me? Hardly. The people who cry loudest about "adding" are the very same people who never gave a rats ass about what other people feel or want in the game and always made sure to satisfy their own needs before anything else. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that attitude. But when you also think you're in someway entitled to tell other people how to play the game, with the sole purpose to enhance your own gaming experience, you're a hypocrite.

 

[Kwidz]

afaik the leetest trying to have their fg fights far away from ze zerg?!

and still, ppl find them and add (((((((((((((((((((((

 

[Libertine]

afaik the leetest trying to have their fg fights far away from ze zerg?!

and still, ppl find them and add (((((((((((((((((((((

If only that was the case, however we know that the leet fg vs fg people don't just like fg vs fg, they like steamrollering lowbie pickup groups. If the leet people truly wanted fg vs fg rvr they would choose a zone where the zerg and others don't go, and yet to this day they haven't.

 

[Solari]

Do you happen to know why they complain?

You do realise that fg vs fg is the only challenge left in this game for these players, and you ruin that by going oooooh rps for me, i dont care about those 16 people, aslong as i get something for myself!

The problem is, that by your adding on the fight going on down there, you'll ruin the fun they're having, its not fun for them winning, if they win just because they're outnumbering the enemy, anyone can win like that so ofcourse they're gonna be upset when you try to ruin it for them.

It has absolutely nothing todo with these people being elitist pricks that only think about themselves, it has todo with the fact that these sorta fights is the only thing they pay to play this game for.

So before you jump to conclusions, how about you take a look at it from the other side of the fence?

So your one of the persons in a fg that runs out from crau, you see a stealther 1 vs 1. Your group, including you, decides it would be fun to gank the enemy stealther. As your a fg and the solo person is already engaged in a fight you almost insta kill him for nearly no reward.

The maths:
Your fg of 8 people had fun.
You ruined the fun for the 2 dueling stealthers.
Doesn't take much to know that 8>2. So this is not lame?

 

[Donledirse]

I've come across this a few times aswell, and unfortunatley it makes me think twice before helping other hibs in rvr now, mainly because of the potential whine I might get from assisting or adding as others call it etc

For example, I came across a fg vs fg fight in agramon the weekend involving hibs and mids and didn't get involved because I knew that a whine would shortly follow, but then I noticed 2 scouts taking pot shots at the hib group which eventually got wiped.

I could have helped, but because of the attitude I just passed by. Right or wrong decision I don't know but this is the problems faced these days.

The fg v fg fight was never a big thing in the old frontiers as you spent so much time roaming, just finding any fight was a bonus. I also remember some groups easily wiping 2 plus nme groups, so I guess they had no cause to complain. It Seems toa has created these fg v fg contests so people can test their temps and ml abilities better..

My advice would be, don't piss off your realm mates too much otherwise when help is needed there will be none.

 

[Libertine]

I don't know about others, but i personally used to hate people adding on me while fighting 1v1 on my ranger or NS, that was until i got sick of every high RR alb/mid and even hib groups adding on my fights. Now i make sure i return the favour at every opportunity. As much as these people always talk about how they want fg vs fg fun they seem to find 9v1 a fair challenge.

 

[Fyric]

So your one of the persons in a fg that runs out from crau, you see a stealther 1 vs 1. Your group, including you, decides it would be fun to gank the enemy stealther. As your a fg and the solo person is already engaged in a fight you almost insta kill him for nearly no reward.

The maths:
Your fg of 8 people had fun.
You ruined the fun for the 2 dueling stealthers.
Doesn't take much to know that 8>2. So this is not lame?

Actually the groups i join run right past these fights, unless its some stealther that added on us recently, also i never add on fights when im solo unless im told too, i do however look around for enemy adders to kill(stealthers usually), keep in mind that i wasn't actually in the grp yesterday for several reasons, mainly that i didn't seem to get invited xD

 

[Libertine]

unless its some stealther that added on us recently,

Same logic can be applied to the otherside also, they might add on your fg vs fg fight because the people your fighting added on them recently.

 

[Alan]

I can see why people want a nice balanced fg vs fg fight, but this game was never designed for that.

If I see an enemy player they will be attacked, If i see a friendly player low on health and I have enough power they will be healed. If you dont like that then feel free to use /nohelp or hunt in a less busy zone. Leeching in PvE is a banable offence, but there is no such thing as leeching in RvR.

 

[dwystah]

K i admit it it was me who whined!

 

[cuddled0rf]

Since assasins seem to think it a fair fight to PA my mentalist, i consider it fair to return the favour and nuke the s*** out of em whenever possible, including when theyre having 1vs1 fights. Its not about the challenge imo, its about ppl wanting fame n glory with high RR.

 

[Hestethun]

they should make "RvR" zones for rr12+ then the leetists that QQ about other ppl walking by, getting attacked by the albs/mids and defending themselves shouldn't have a prob

or do it like WoW, make Battlegrounds, 1fg of each realm at a time, with a waiting qeue of 2+ hours woop dee doo, if they do that, I'm gonna stop playing...

I do know, I will never add on 1vs1 fights when I'm driving a FG, when I'm soloing it's a different story or it's 2+ vs 1, but still.




I totally agree on this, there were some 'leetists' in Thidranki aswell a while ago, if I saw em fighting, I would just stand there doing nothing untill they were eventually telling me to get lost (and other things meaning the same ofc) and then I would run through thid just to find them and add on them, cuz I hate those kinds of ppl, trying to act like they own a zone >.<

if just rr12 + ppl should get in on that island only sheph would come muhahhahahahahahahhahahaha

 

[Libertine]

K i admit it it was me who whined!

Shocker

 

[tierk]

For the orignal poster i would say dont get stressed out by these people asking you not to add. There has always been people chanting this in this game and its nothing for you to change your realm for. People like this invariably havent seen the real world in a long time and are just working off the frustration from a lack of sex doing the five finger shimmee with the jar of vaseline that they keep next to the keyboard

 

[ebenezer]

Do you happen to know why they complain?

You do realise that fg vs fg is the only challenge left in this game for these players, and you ruin that by going oooooh rps for me, i dont care about those 16 people, aslong as i get something for myself!

The problem is, that by your adding on the fight going on down there, you'll ruin the fun they're having, its not fun for them winning, if they win just because they're outnumbering the enemy, anyone can win like that so ofcourse they're gonna be upset when you try to ruin it for them.

It has absolutely nothing todo with these people being elitist pricks that only think about themselves, it has todo with the fact that these sorta fights is the only thing they pay to play this game for.

So before you jump to conclusions, how about you take a look at it from the other side of the fence?

The thing is they dont really have anything backing their whine m8. The game is designed like this....erhm..why not whine on the people who made the game. Why do we that have choosen to play this game for various reason have to listen to this whine over and over again for something that is completely right, since we are just following rules and playing the game on terms mythic made?? Its not like 80% of people are gonna suddenly stop playing the game the way they do cause a few people whines every now and then. I think those people would be better of choosing another game or complain on the people that made the game(though they will say change game if it doesnt suit you) Sure the leet people also pay their subs(as i know the leet people will say in response to this)...but that doesnt mean they can do anything about how the game is designed by screaming stuff to the other players....comon i mean how old are you...? is it that hard to understand that ur barking up the wrong tree??

 

[Petwick(Ebony Hand)]

I must admit, the main thing that made me laugh last night was our little 4 man grp was wandering between amg and mmg, and so was the other hib group...and then one of them shouts at us for following them.......oh and also,one of the fights we 'added' on actually started by a fg of mids chasing me from there mile gate back towards where our bard was.....so technically they 'added' on us

Oh and another was us running past there fight to move away when we got mezzed...im assuming I was supposed to stand there and get killed just so others could have ther 'fun' instead of purging and beating shit outta the mid who did it

Worse case of 'dont add ffs' i seen so far was a bard yelling it on crau bridge at the height of the irvr in emain a few months ago...laughed so much I fat fingered a PA and got slaughtered

 

[Petwick(Ebony Hand)]

For the orignal poster i would say dont get stressed out by these people asking you not to add. There has always been people chanting this in this game and its nothing for you to change your realm for. People like this invariably havent seen the real world in a long time and are just working off the frustration from a lack of sex doing the five finger shimmee with the jar of vaseline that they keep next to the keyboard

lol

and tbh the four of us were pissing ourselves laughing

 

[Kaun_IA]

well, regarding the Arena addons are mythics department, goa just implements what mythic tells em too(more or less), and seeing as theres immense amounts of areas to rvr in, we probably won't get an arena as such. Personally I think of agramon as the arena you speak off really, only thing bloody annoying about agramon is the damn way you have to get their across the bridges filled with stealthers looking to attack(gifv porting like old emain)

Swim mybe, cant be that hard whit ml2 soj and speed.

ok once had this situation, i was in a 3 man grp, then a FG mids came and behind them was a fg hibs, mids attacked us, we get killed and i get a PM "why did u add?"

i was wordless

and the eleetist call us RP horny?? wtf are they then, telling us not to add.

 

[Avrot]

I must admit, the main thing that made me laugh last night was our little 4 man grp was wandering between amg and mmg, and so was the other hib group...and then one of them shouts at us for following them.......oh and also,one of the fights we 'added' on actually started by a fg of mids chasing me from there mile gate back towards where our bard was.....so technically they 'added' on us

Oh and another was us running past there fight to move away when we got mezzed...im assuming I was supposed to stand there and get killed just so others could have ther 'fun' instead of purging and beating shit outta the mid who did it

Worse case of 'dont add ffs' i seen so far was a bard yelling it on crau bridge at the height of the irvr in emain a few months ago...laughed so much I fat fingered a PA and got slaughtered

Lol that's a good point Pet I forgot to add the fact that most of the time he was whining was because of things out of our control. The ones that where in out control, technically nothing we could do as both grps where running around at bard speed and normally got attacked at same time. One time I went to use the fop they used because I had been killed, few seconds before (fop been a realm thing to help us all, didn't think they would mind), got mezzed and attacked by the enemy as well as the grp, and pets hero purged and starting stunning and kicking shit out of the dwarf chopping my body up.

My final point on this post is as a lot of have said, its a realm v realm game a community not self quest for glory, where possible give respect where due, if you cannot, dont say anything.

 

[Vodkafairy]

If only that was the case, however we know that the leet fg vs fg people don't just like fg vs fg, they like steamrollering lowbie pickup groups. If the leet people truly wanted fg vs fg rvr they would choose a zone where the zerg and others don't go, and yet to this day they haven't.

your generalizations are beyond retarded, i cant even begin to explain on how many points you are wrong

 

[Libertine]

your generalizations are beyond retarded, i cant even begin to explain on how many points you are wrong

Feel free to explain rather just make pointless insults because saying something is retarded without actually explaining why makes you look stupid.

Its funny when we had IRvR and emain was zergy as hell it was amazing how many 'leet' groups went there for their fg vs fg challenge fights with no adds

 

[Elkie]

thought that was the point of agramon, and the roleplayers can zerg the keeps back and forward?

HaHa

 

[Kaun_IA]

thought that was the point of agramon, and the roleplayers can zerg the keeps back and forward?

OK.....FIRST: what type of game is this??? MMORPG!! yeah, its a roleplaying game.......suxx isnt it?

SECOND: define, by your own words, who are these Roleplayers and why do they have to be disliked?

THIRD:WHY do you play an rpg game if you dont like roleplay?

PS: im not trying to offend enyone, just to get some things straight!

 

[Alan]

OK.....FIRST: what type of game is this??? MMORPG!! yeah, its a roleplaying game.......suxx isnt it?

SECOND: define, by your own words, who are these Roleplayers and why do they have to be disliked?

THIRD:WHY do you play an rpg game if you dont like roleplay?

PS: im not trying to offend enyone, just to get some things straight!

you missed the point of the first M in MMORPG Massive which tends to hint at more than 8 people

 

[Kaun_IA]

you missed the point of the first M in MMORPG Massive which tends to hint at more than 8 people

hehee, good point there.....