Avalon

[klasa]

wtf?

they have their own forum and own irc channels, i completely fail to see your point.

My point is only that Freddys is a place with alot of whine, and I noticed that I enjoyed DAOC much more when I don't read the rvr whine because it's the same story all over. My second point is do you read the German forum? Perhaps there is alot of whine there and if you don't read it you don't notice. That's all I'm saying. I'm not gonna push the argument any furhter.

 

[Craparoni]

come back!!! cba more pve, it sux monkeyballs

 

[toxii]

vf, seriously, you're playing there for 2 weeks, we played there for a year plus.
keep on sugarcoating this and you sadly will find out in a while that we wasnt overexagerating at all ;p

 

[SkarIronfist]

SC will carry on running Sun/Mon/Thurs as we have done for the last 2/3 years on the Prydwen/Excal cluster.

 

[xRedfieldx]

lets say 6 groups have moved, all set 8 mans just about.
thats 48ish people gone from a 1000-1500 server, dont worry its not going to kill the cluster, will just make it more fun for all the random groups out there instead of being farmed by wtfpwnsetgrps.

 

[Gahn]

lets say 6 groups have moved, all set 8 mans just about.
thats 48ish people gone from a 1000-1500 server, dont worry its not going to kill the cluster, will just make it more fun for all the random groups out there instead of being farmed by wtfpwnsetgrps.

Anyway they were pretty much stuck to Agramon, main prob is there aren't random groups roaming rest of areas -.-

 

[MxN]

lets say 6 groups have moved, all set 8 mans just about.
thats 48ish people gone from a 1000-1500 server, dont worry its not going to kill the cluster, will just make it more fun for all the random groups out there instead of being farmed by wtfpwnsetgrps.

Well if most set grps leave server will make bs fg rvr ;(

 

[Collateral]

after somebody says that mid is saturated with fg´s, i think of rerolling in alb or hib. dunno anyone there though. if somebody should do some pve today, gimme a shout. i can also help out on german language, too.
can also offer a vent server

 

[Calmin]

Well it sounds interesting and im sure we have some German speakers in Synergy if we could be arsed.

But we've only just got our GG back on cluster and theres enough FgvFg action out there....im more worried about the quality of the groups on cluster rather than the quantity as others have stated..

Ohh well lets wait and see.

 

[Collateral]

ben, gimme a shout when you guys are leaving

 

[Calmin]

ben, gimme a shout when you guys are leaving

If not when, and Ofc i will

 

[Konah]

flogging a dead horse

 

[Gratscensi]

no offense to any groups but the "there is plenty of action on cluster" arguement is flawed.

lately the only really good FG out on cluster has been the usual mael-mix fg. and as always when that happens there are more midgroups out then any other realm.

a few weeks/months ago when bdc and/or og and/or rr were playing activly along with the maelgroup agramon became empty except for the said guilds. fighting the very same people gets boring after a while, so you move to the irvr area or whatever where more groups (even tho they are not as good, its still fun to fight) currently are. that led to those groups logging off.

its this problem that is different on avalon atm, people and their groups can take losses without logging or leaving. people dont care, because there is hardly any irc-bitching or general e-peening. on cluster people tend to overanalyze every move/mistake/fight/class etc, which probably leads to the fact that theres always something to blame. while this might be true, its not anything that should affect the rvr in such scale that people /qtd because of it.

now you can argue why this is different, but thats not the point. its a fact, and it contributes alot to the fun-factor. not saying my group dont have any whine, we have plenty, but as a tip to any groups rolling, try not to care too much, because the germans dont, and that is what have kept the server alive.

 

[Lethul]

no offense to any groups but the "there is plenty of action on cluster" arguement is flawed.

lately the only really good FG out on cluster has been the usual mael-mix fg. and as always when that happens there are more midgroups out then any other realm.

a few weeks/months ago when bdc and/or og and/or rr were playing activly along with the maelgroup agramon became empty except for the said guilds. fighting the very same people gets boring after a while, so you move to the irvr area or whatever where more groups (even tho they are not as good, its still fun to fight) currently are. that led to those groups logging off.

its this problem that is different on avalon atm, people and their groups can take losses without logging or leaving. people dont care, because there is hardly any irc-bitching or general e-peening. on cluster people tend to overanalyze every move/mistake/fight/class etc, which probably leads to the fact that theres always something to blame. while this might be true, its not anything that should affect the rvr in such scale that people /qtd because of it.

now you can argue why this is different, but thats not the point. its a fact, and it contributes alot to the fun-factor. not saying my group dont have any whine, we have plenty, but as a tip to any groups rolling, try not to care too much, because the germans dont, and that is what have kept the server alive.

haha, your joking right? it was pretty much mael/rr/"bdc"(not rly them tho) that keept overanalyzing every fight/add/zerg

it sounds to me that avalon still is a load of FGs like GA etc, they dont whine on FH/IRC etc at all and sometimes they add sometimes they dont. But now its funnier when it is like that ?

 

[Cromcruaich]

Whatevah!

Lastnight was good fun over in agramon. Decent amount of fights.

Will miss facing a lot of the groups that have moved over, but all it should do is make agramon and the full group scene more accessible to lower realm rank groups and pugs of less experience. They should be encouraged to get out there and find out what they are missing.

I dont doubt that they will be back in anycase.

 

[Lorfo]

Cluster has been very boring for a long time imo, dno why I didn't quit it earlier.
When there's only 1 group that gives challenge (loltroopers) for several months it's simply not fun to fight. Camlann failed because some groups quit after 1 week without even giving it a chance. When 1 group gets ready for rvr some group that was faster already quit.
I've had alot more fun on avalon then I had on cluster lately.
Give back Defiance,NP,VP AD,BDC,PE OG,RR and cluster could be fun again.
Altho, if these groups would come back all the current groups that roam in agramon would vanish.

 

[Cromcruaich]

Altho, if these groups would come back all the current groups that roam in agramon would vanish.

Erm, no.

 

[kirennia]

TT are here to stay and yes we still want those groups who have as better win ratio vs. us to come back.

We've improved a hell of a lot in the last 5 or 6 weeks that we've been together and would like to meet up with the groups which challenged us back when we first started up.

As I say, monday or tuesday please

 

[Calmin]

Those are exactly the groups we want to be fighting....better to lose to top opponents than farm rubbish ones!

 

[Eleasias]

Give back Defiance,NP,VP AD,BDC,PE OG,RR and cluster could be fun again.
Altho, if these groups would come back all the current groups that roam in agramon would vanish.

Thats a lot of groups but lots of them had some of the same ppl so 2 of them cant run the "real" grp at the same time .

For example Farek tried to make a new "AD" grp except it only had 3 AD people, 1 from FL and the rest 4 of us? We played in the Mael/Groove mix grp so when we played Alb they didnt make a group, so we were in the same situation except just on a different realm, nothing to fight really

But vinters is right here, when there's no groups to fight and no challenge, or maybe 1 grp max that gives a fight it's boring. Then people go and reroll.

But here's a question, why do people reroll in the first place when the action was great, was lots of topgroups and good players on cluster, the funny thing is, most of these people havent quitted, they have just rerolled somewhere else. Maybe they reroll cause they think they'll pwn more on a new server and get more rp's or some crap.

Reroll after reroll never stopping to even RvR properly, RR is perfect example of this. First Camlann, rush it and quit before anyone else is even finished, breaking morale of ppl thinking that Project Camlann will work and others following them. Then they make midgrp, play 2 nights. Then reroll to WoW PvE, the greek crew is another example. I just dont get it, why dont people stop to RvR, everyone claims they hate PvE still they reroll 24/7.

I'll take a dig at the freesharders aswell, I've tried them a bit myself. There's loads of people who think they are so great at this game, yet have not "achieved*" anything on real servers, ever. They play in different pugs everynight on freeshards and think they r0x, maybe its time to step up and bring your money to the table?

*I know you dont really achieve anything since its a game but everyone knows what I mean.

People have to face it, DAoC does not have that many players left so we have to concentrate the FG's in the same place to get good action, now it's too late for cluster I think (hope not cause I'd love to play my cluster chars) and I have no choice but to follow suit and reroll on Avalon if I want to keep on playing competitive fg.

 

[Eleasias]

Erm, no.

NFD is probably the only one that really has the right attitude, trying to improve. Maybe TT too. (from the ~average tier grps, cant think of anything else to call them) Just coming back and trying to beat the enemy until you succeed. Other groups get farmed 2-3 times and go HW and farm minigroups and stuff. Synergy? Haha give me a break Calmin, we run midgrp and you get Synergy deathspam from Odin's/HW all night, switch to alb next day and they roam Agramon, happened several times now ^_^

 

[Calmin]

Synergy? Haha give me a break Calmin, we run midgrp and you get Synergy deathspam from Odin's/HW all night, switch to alb next day and they roam Agramon, happened several times now ^_^

Dunno wtf you're talking about tbh mate....our GG's been back 10 days....we've been in agramon (if theres anyone there) pretty much every night we've run except the last 2 nights. (and both of those we checked on agramon.rvr first).

We'll be in agramon on friday bring your midgroup...some of us are rusty but we'll give you a good fight anytime even if we aint opted.

 

[Wilburn]

Defiance,NP,VP AD,BDC,PE OG,RR

QQ, where the bloddy hell is COO COO .. out of sight out of mind. Damn people start forgetting fast on this forum !!!!

 

[Sharkith]

good luck out there folks - I just don't have the energy or time to be able to roll again. I hope it gets you what you want!

Sharkith

 

[BloodOmen]

Been talking to a few german set grps since i started on hib :s they seem friendly enough tbh was just asking them few things bout the rvr is there


edit: and did not whine at me because i spoke english once

 

[SkarIronfist]

Yes, some of the groups have moved on, lets be honest keeping a rota going of 8 people who can actually turn up on time and not wind each other up is pretty hard work.

So the reason most of moved on, is that they haven't been able to keep their rosters intact, nothing more.

But some of the groups we reference are in the past, so lets move on. Nowadays most groups are amgalmations of multiple groups.

Also alot of groups have finally caught up the the RRs with some of the high rr groups of the past.

And yes RRs make a bloody big difference in the RVR, where fighting groups where the tanks are barely CCed for any time or caster groups where 2 out of the 4 casters are always Moc'd 3/purge 3 up and shed loads of damage.

Also running in Agramon all night maybe not everyones in a groups cup of tea, so its important to find a balance to maintain good spirits, so abit of agramon, abit of towers, abit of agramon, abit of IRVR etc maintains a good balance of styles of play.

Finally if people wish to move to Avalon, then good luck to them, they pay their money and so have total freedom in how thy spend there time.

 

[BloodOmen]

and the + side to avalon is theres what? 3-4 other german servers ti can get clustered with if pop falls

 

[Novamir]

frs... u need to log out :|

 

[Rush]

Im really surprised on the FGs community on Avalon, always thought Cluster was best server as "fair-play", well Avalon is way better, dedicated FGs zone (every1 is on irc etc), noone adds (except sometimes some cuntish zerg comes or smth), and noone inc u while u rest (it was same on cluter but only for some grps).
The quality of grps is overall decent some are really nice to fight, some are really shit, but is always nice seen them ra-dumping on rr4 fg and still loose badly xD
The action is very nice, surely lot more action then later cluster's one :|

Sorry for my english of crap :E (blame Vf who refuses to teach me propely :E )

 

[BloodOmen]

heh no no no cluster is all zerg no fun in it anymore :/ all it is now is noobs running around following the zerg and farming other zergs head on ;/