Requiel said:Culstering with a US server was impossible. The only realistic option to allow Glastonbury players to keep on playing their characters was a cluster with Salisbury. We knew it wouldn't be universally popular but we felt it was fairer than simply shutting down the server.
It's not as simple as just copying a character file to a different database.- English - said:Would Mythic not even allow a character swap over there? As i see it each character is part of a database which is part of a file. Correct me if I am wrong or stupid to even go into this depth but nothing could be even considered for you and mythic to agree about even /rolling a character and copying the equipment over?
There are no plans to cluster Excal and Prydwen again for the moment. This is the number one question I've been answering this week. We will of course keep a close eye on the population but it's been pretty steady for the last few months despite what certain threads on FH may make you believe.Nate said:btw, the friday post last week covered a lot of servers but I am wondering if a cluster will be in the line up for Exc/Pryd anytime before LoTM?
Requiel said:It's not as simple as just copying a character file to a different database.
Firstly you have to realise that we don't have 'classic accounts', 'Prydwen accounts', 'Excalibur accounts' etc. To be able to play on a US server you'd need a US account. We'd need to port over all your account details (which we aren't allowed to do by law) as well but then you'd lose the ability to play on other EU servers. Either it would be bye-bye to your characters on other servers or you'd need to open a new account to continue playing characters you were already paying for once. In my experience asking people to pay twice is likely to generate more complaints than asking them to get their head around German.
Let's assume for the moment though that we could share your account info with Mythic or you had an account there already to transfer to. Every transfer would have to be done manually, for every single character that wanted to move. Additionally you'd lose your guild and your house on the move too - including the contents of house vaults and CMs. Some players would read the news and create mule alts to hold their house vault contents - and each of those mules would need to be transferred too - some players wouldn't and would then raise hell when they realised that their collection of DS jewellery hadn't gone with them.
It's not a good solution for people who don't want to transfer either. We weren't looking for the best solution for individuals, we were looking for the best solution for the community as a whole. Moving people individually splits the community up and makes the choice not to move pointless. They can move to the US or they can stay on a server with no-one on it - if they don't want to start a new account then they don't have any other option but to abandon their characters. This way everyone gets a choice. You can play in German or you can leave but your choice doesn't make anyone else's choice harder.
Finally there's the issue of what happens further down the line. We could transfer everyone who wanted to go at the time. The remaining people would be told 'sorry but your server will be closed now' and then the server would close. Six months later someone resubscribes after a year away and can't access his character which is on a server that doesn't exist anymore. Cue further complaints.
The only fair thing we could have done is to cluster Glastonbury. That would either have been with Pryd/Excal or with Glastonbury. We felt (and overwhelming feedback on here and elsewhere backed this up) that Glastonbury players did not want to be moved to a ToA server but would rather keep playing the classic ruleset.
Jox said:germans speak english, english peps dont speak german...
RS|Phil said:Stop reasoning with us and go program a multi-lingual server database!
Soulja_IA_ said:They should of made it a bit easier for English language people got problems with rent paying/scaling walls etc so you need change you update to german why could they not left Glastonbury Zone on same language basis it not a classic English server now but 2 German servers
Struggling like hell with glastonbury now looks like Goa kicked English users on there right in the teeth.
Looks like I have stop playing there by changing update to german affects if I want to play on Excal/Pryd Cluster as well and before merger although there weren't many on it was dam fun.
Thought it be a good thing but seems Goa never really thought the transaction out for English people.Seems Cluster it let them get on with it etc but I liked glastonbury 7 lvl 50's on there now going to waste.
Soulja
Requiel said:I appreciate your point however the choice we were facing was to either close Glastonbury in which case everything you did would then be wiped out or cluster it. Clustering with a ToA server wasn't an option, as we had a lot of feedback indicating that players would be strongly against being moved to a regular server. Clustering with a US server was impossible. The only realistic option to allow Glastonbury players to keep on playing their characters was a cluster with Salisbury. We knew it wouldn't be universally popular but we felt it was fairer than simply shutting down the server.
Soulja_IA_ said:They should of made it a bit easier for English language people got problems with rent paying/scaling walls etc so you need change you update to german why could they not left Glastonbury Zone on same language basis it not a classic English server now but 2 German servers
Soulja
Soulja_IA_ said:They should of made it a bit easier for English language people got problems with rent paying/scaling walls etc so you need change you update to german why could they not left Glastonbury Zone on same language basis it not a classic English server now but 2 German servers
Struggling like hell with glastonbury now looks like Goa kicked English users on there right in the teeth.
Looks like I have stop playing there by changing update to german affects if I want to play on Excal/Pryd Cluster as well and before merger although there weren't many on it was dam fun.
Requiel said:The only realistic option to allow Glastonbury players to keep on playing their characters was a cluster with Salisbury.
NAHKRI said:Since mythic r a small company they cant afford that kind of advertising atm.
I hope the money from ea and from warhammer will change this and give daoc a new chance,but that wont happen until after warhammer is out.