Apple presenting new stuffz

[ECA]

Apple: Proving religion is nothing more than a tool for obtaining wealth.

 

[Raven]

...and that stupid people will buy into any old shit so long as you market properly.

 

[Jeros]

Remember the shitstorm on twitter as iPhone users got pissy that instragram was now aviable to Android users.

Oh the Lulz.

 

[CorNokZ]

IOS6's new map functions won't be available for iPhone 3GS or iPhone 4

What a piss take.. I'm getting the Samsung S3

 

[old.user4556]

Jesus, the retards in that audience whooping and cheering at something that Google Earth has been able to do for fucking years.

My 3GS owning mate asked me "how much does that cost?" when I showed turn by turn on my Hero to which I said "it's part of the phone ".

IOS6's new map functions won't be available for iPhone 3GS or iPhone 4

What a piss take.. I'm getting the Samsung S3

Well to be fair, IIRC, the turn by turn navigation wasn't available until a particular version of Android which wasn't officially released by some carriers. I had to root my phone and load a custom ROM to free up some of the new and exciting shit that the newer phones had. Otherwise, I was stuck in the dark ages.

The manufacturers are as bad as each other.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

Somebody must be paying it. I'd still like to know what the income / market share ration is compared to their other products.

Take a look at these G, may be of some interest, if not only to show the ridiculous numbers of IOS devices being shipped per quarter.

Taken from http://www.apple.com/uk/pr/

 

[PLightstar]

Looks like my uni....

But no In the states macbooks are compulsory for some yank uni courses, and apparently some schools are making parents by ipads for there kids now too as "teaching aids" or something

One of the Comprehensive schools near me, are forcing the parents to buy £500 iPads as teaching aids. My mates brother has to buy one for his son just starting there. Told him to get a cheaper Android tablet. Still don't understand why they need a tablet, surely a chrome book or other netbook would be alot more useful, as kids could store proper documents on it and use it at home as well as at school.

 

[cHodAX]

http://arstechnica.com/science/2012...ould-be-jaw-dropping-improvement-over-li-ion/

If lithium air batteries ever go into production it will change the entire face of mobile computing.

 

[old.user4556]

Take a look at these G, may be of some interest, if not only to show the ridiculous numbers of IOS devices being shipped per quarter.

Taken from http://www.apple.com/uk/pr/

Brilliant . As I suspected the revenue from the iDevices dwarf what the Mac Pro brings in, hence a good reason why their slow to update it.

 

[cHodAX]

Brilliant . As I suspected the revenue from the iDevices dwarf what the Mac Pro brings in, hence a good reason why their slow to update it.

It's not just a matter of revenue, you need to consider profit margain and the Pro range is both extremely profitable but also a growing business for Apple. Also consider that they now use off the shelf Intel hardware, thus any new models or uprades are not a massive undertaking for that division, they simplly haggle a good price out of Intel and then get Foxconn to flesh out a new build spec. The truth is that the top of the line Pro is 3 years behind the bleeding edge and thier core audience are craving for more performance, Apple should be delivering new models every 12 months but instead they have taken thier eye off the ball for what is a core business. There would be no Apple without the Pro and it's devoted customerbase.

 

[old.user4556]

Brilliant . As I suspected the revenue from the iDevices dwarf what the Mac Pro brings in, hence a good reason why their slow to update it.

I meant 'they're' - blame fudding autocorrect.

 

[old.user4556]

It's not just a matter of revenue, you need to consider profit margain and the Pro range is both extremely profitable but also a growing business for Apple. Also consider that they now use off the shelf Intel hardware, thus any new models or uprades are not a massive undertaking for that division, they simplly haggle a good price out of Intel and then get Foxconn to flesh out a new build spec. The truth is that the top of the line Pro is 3 years behind the bleeding edge and thier core audience are craving for more performance, Apple should be delivering new models every 12 months but instead they have taken thier eye off the ball for what is a core business. There would be no Apple without the Pro and it's devoted customerbase.

I am very simply stating that "it could be a reason". Let it go Cho.

 

[cHodAX]

I am very simply stating that "it could be a reason". Let it go Cho.

No bud you misunderstand, I am not looking for an arguement, just trying to put across why I think they are making big mistake in ignoring what has been a core business for them. The first people to buy iphones, itunes, ipods and ipads were those same customers who have been buy Pro's. You are right with what you said that it could be a reason and most likely it is the reason, they have gone after the big growth areas and understandably so, those areas are going to become increasingly competitive though and so ignoring the bedrock of the business is not a good idea imo.

 

[ECA]

New word on these pros :/

Ram is soldered in so you cant upgrade, proprietary SSD connection so you cannot upgrade, monitor fused to housing so you can't remove it, replace it or change it.
Proprietary screws so only with a special apple screwdriver can you even open "your" computer. Battery glued into the case rather than screwed, so you can't even really replace it without damaging the other gubbins/case.

It's ok though - apple hates proprietary systems so you cant have flash!

trololol?

 

[MYstIC G]

It's not just a matter of revenue, you need to consider profit margain and the Pro range is both extremely profitable but also a growing business for Apple. Also consider that they now use off the shelf Intel hardware, thus any new models or uprades are not a massive undertaking for that division, they simplly haggle a good price out of Intel and then get Foxconn to flesh out a new build spec. The truth is that the top of the line Pro is 3 years behind the bleeding edge and thier core audience are craving for more performance, Apple should be delivering new models every 12 months but instead they have taken thier eye off the ball for what is a core business. There would be no Apple without the Pro and it's devoted customerbase.

People wouldn't pay the mark up every three years.

 

[cHodAX]

People wouldn't pay the mark up every three years.

Pro's are mainly sold into business, the markups don't really come into it and never have for the sectors that they sell into. It is all about getting the fastest Mac Pro's available to increase time effiency. Those businesses require performance at all cost and Apple hasn't delivered that with a Pro for 3 years, infact even when the last Pro was released it was already being outperformed by newer Intel designs or higher speed SKU's. There was a fair bit of condemnation after Apple did thier thing last week, many Pro core customers cried out that they were being ignored, so much so that Apple have now promised them something special for 2013. So that means no Ivy Bridge for Mac Pro, more likely they will skip straight to Haswell.

 

[Tom]

New word on these pros :/

Ram is soldered in so you cant upgrade, proprietary SSD connection so you cannot upgrade, monitor fused to housing so you can't remove it, replace it or change it.
Proprietary screws so only with a special apple screwdriver can you even open "your" computer. Battery glued into the case rather than screwed, so you can't even really replace it without damaging the other gubbins/case.

It's ok though - apple hates proprietary systems so you cant have flash!

trololol?

I'd love to buy a PC that looked like one of those big iMac things, they're lovely pieces of kit. But I'd be stupid to pay the prices Apple charge, so I'll stick with a tea-stained white keyboard, a big noisy box on the floor, and a computer far more powerful for a fraction of the price. The difference, I'll spend on games (not an option open to Mac users tbh).

 

[Wazzerphuk]

I'd love to buy a PC that looked like one of those big iMac things, they're lovely pieces of kit. But I'd be stupid to pay the prices Apple charge, so I'll stick with a tea-stained white keyboard, a big noisy box on the floor, and a computer far more powerful for a fraction of the price. The difference, I'll spend on games (not an option open to Mac users tbh).

Unless you happen to like playing industry leading games like Football Manager or Deus Ex 3....

 

[caLLous]

New word on these pros :/

Ram is soldered in so you cant upgrade, proprietary SSD connection so you cannot upgrade, monitor fused to housing so you can't remove it, replace it or change it.
Proprietary screws so only with a special apple screwdriver can you even open "your" computer. Battery glued into the case rather than screwed, so you can't even really replace it without damaging the other gubbins/case.

That's hilarious and shocking in equal measures. I wouldn't have thought a tech company would try to get away with all that proprietary shit nowadays but I suppose if all the idiots still blindly lap it up it doesn't make the slightest difference.

Someone said all the manufacturers are as bad as each other... they really, really aren't.

And Mac users don't have time for games you plebs; they're far too busy being creative and AWESOME.

 

[cHodAX]

Just whack a pc inside an old Mac Pro case, job done or even better just build a hackintosh rig inside one for 1/3 the cost of an actual Mac Pro!


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj0MU9MwfVg

 

[cHodAX]

That's hilarious and shocking in equal measures. I wouldn't have thought a tech company would try to get away with all that proprietary shit nowadays but I suppose if all the idiots still blindly lap it up it doesn't make the slightest difference.

Someone said all the manufacturers are as bad as each other... they really, really aren't.

Compaq used proprietary parts and screws right until the day they they were taken over by HP. IBM, DELL and HP still do it with certain models, not as bad as Apple fortunately but it still goes on.

 

[old.user4556]

Someone said all the manufacturers are as bad as each other... they really, really

You've quoted me waaay out of context, I was talking about phone handsets and their OS updates / software updates.

 

[caLLous]

Who needs context when I can take something you said and make Apple sound bad.

And cHo, I iremember there was a big hoo-hah about Dell using proprietary mobo's and PSU's, I thought they gave it up yonks ago...

 

[cHodAX]

And cHo, I iremember there was a big hoo-hah about Dell using proprietary mobo's and PSU's, I thought they gave it up yonks ago...

DELL operated like that for 15 years or more, these days it is almost gone but every now and then you see something that harks back to the hold days such as special security screws on SFF machines. They do that so only DELL qualified and approved engineers can do warranty repairs, it's pretty fucking stupid and luckily it is on the decline with all the major manufacturers.

 

[Jeros]

New word on these pros :/

Ram is soldered in so you cant upgrade, proprietary SSD connection so you cannot upgrade, monitor fused to housing so you can't remove it, replace it or change it.
Proprietary screws so only with a special apple screwdriver can you even open "your" computer. Battery glued into the case rather than screwed, so you can't even really replace it without damaging the other gubbins/case.

It's ok though - apple hates proprietary systems so you cant have flash!

trololol?

Wow........jesus christ

 

[ECA]

This article is hilarious:

http://blogs.wsj.com/cio/2012/06/11/cios-beware-new-macbook-pro-will-be-a-bandwidth-hog/

 

[Zenith.UK]

I find that almost every PC based computer I deal with have standard screws for their internal parts. There is still some proprietary parts such as Dell's custom PSU that only fits their own casing, or Digipos using external PSUs with custom connector. At the end of the day, if a manufacturer is using their own parts, they're not saving money and hurting their own profit margins. Using standard parts and fittings lowers manufacturing costs and improves profits.