Anyone have any spare lefthand slashers for sale?

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old.Bubble

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i'm lvl 47 almost 48 i'd be happy to help you(they are good exp :) )
 
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old.mattshanes

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Ok won't be tonight though as i have to be the main role of a hunt tonight,but hopefully sunday we can go there:D
 
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old.Bubble

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count me in if you need me
<--- wants to ding 50
 
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hrodelbert

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yeah as I said it wont be untill either saturday or sunday morning, but I'd be happy to do it for a couple of hours, if you are early birds like myself, 7am wake up ;)
 
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Generic Poster

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Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Yeah i am tonight hopefully and i am using a 99 qua arcanium bastard sword in right hand which is very nice

I'd have thought two Jambiyas would be better for a merc, than a Bastard/Jambiya combo. It will look alot better aswell and as we all know, looks > ability.

If you really want a heavy right-hand, go for a Sabre/Jambiya set. They both have curved blades and look good together.

imo- Bastard swords only look good with a shield.
 
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liste

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Dual Wield works ALOT better with similar speed weapons.

its all down to math, but if your right hander is 3.8 and your left hander is 2.6, your left hander will be ready for a 'attack check' 1.2 seconds before it will actually be checked. you may hit harder with your right hand, but it doesnt come anywhere near the damage your lefty would have done.

ONLY use the big ones for PA, and in your case, never :p
 
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maxgirth

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Originally posted by liste
Dual Wield works ALOT better with similar speed weapons.

its all down to math, but if your right hander is 3.8 and your left hander is 2.6, your left hander will be ready for a 'attack check' 1.2 seconds before it will actually be checked. you may hit harder with your right hand, but it doesnt come anywhere near the damage your lefty would have done.

ONLY use the big ones for PA, and in your case, never :p

I hear what your saying Liste,I have had 2 slash Mercs now, 1 I had to delete at 46 and my 50 one I still have,and trust me when I say, I have tried about every combo this game has to offer along
the way including both lev 40 epic options (2 sparks,and 1 spark 1 dazzle)2 axes etc.etc. and nothing compares to the dam (over the course of an attack) that a right hand only and left hander do especially with a crit hit, the damage gets scarey.

With thrust infils/mercs it may be a different ballgame due to the dex,but I would ask any slash merc that reads this to try a Arcanium Bastard and Jimbiya combo for a little while before passing comment:).
 
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hrodelbert

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Originally posted by Solid
KK Trig here is how LA works.

Base Damage is calculated off average weapon speed and dps of each axe. (and spec of LA/Axe but thats not what ur asking so I wont mention that here)

Style damage is applied ONLY to the right hand and is calculated off solely the Righ Hand Weapon Delay.

You swing speed is average speed of both your weapons, main and offhand.

So for maximum style damage you want to use the slowest main hnd weapon. for fastest swing speed you want to use the fastest off hnd weapon.

eg for an axe user the agreed best combo is :

Main Hand = Double Bladed Axe - 4.2 delay
Off Hand = Hand Axe - 2.4 delay

Style damage calculated off 4.2 delay, swing speed off (4.2+2.4)/2 = 3.3.

in effect you are doing 4.2 delay style damage at 3.3 delay swing speed, so you are getting much better damage over time.

Bigger the difference in the weapon speeds, bigger the damage gain over time

So LA works differently to DW? this may be a noob question but I'd appreciate some clarification
 
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old.mattshanes

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Bastard sword and a fast offhand hits like a truck as max says.Although 2 jambiyas are good for casters.
 
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djohn2001

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Ill have a look for you mate see if their is anything in my Vult.
 
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liste

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Max: oh. i'd always assumed that the more swings you make, the better, since the damage on a 3.8 is not that that much higher, but possibly the style bonuses add some flavour to this. I'd still maintain, that damage output is better with equal speed, if you dont use styles. all down to math :)


Hrodelbert: Yes, LA and DW/CD works very differently.

LA: both weapons swing every round, but with decreased damage on left weapon.

DW/CD: has a % based on level and Skill- to swing, doing full damage (no style).
 
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Generic Poster

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I could kill a lurikeen for a set like that :D




As for mercs using a Bastard sword, it just doesn't fit the image of the class. Could blame GOA for that I suppose :p
 
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old.mattshanes

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In this game though looks don't normally mean damage:rolleyes:
Unless it's a glowing legion or dragon drop i suppose(i assume they glow).

By the way a bastard sword hits twice as hard as a 2.6 speed weapon most times and 3.9 spd isn't that slow,when you come face to face with a hero example he would laugh at your damage if you had 2.6 spd but if you had a good right hand it would pack more of a punch.Jambiyas are mainly designed for infs to dual weld.
 
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Generic Poster

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When I'm on a roll, I can DW almost every round. That's 4 hits, in the time my foe gets one hit. That itself is why faster weapons can benefit dual-wielders.

Also infs need to react fast to pull off evade-styles, again, faster weapons help.



In this game though looks don't normally mean damage

It's not about using glowy weapons and what not, but having a character which looks good in action. A merc with a bastard sword would look akward, unlike a dexterous dual-jambiya user, which is how a merc should be represented. If you want a little flair, go with Saber/Jambiya or Longsword/shortsword.

Bastard/Jambiya isn't a pretty sight, much like someone wearing a purple trousers with a green shirt, ewwww :puke:


I could rant about some of the colour schemes players use in-game... but I'll go eat something for now.


Bottom line is, you must look good fighting, else you will not be feared.
 
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old.mattshanes

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Well haven't got 2 jambiyas yet only one,anyone got a price list of arcanium stuff?and dps/spd?i will swap between them on certain situations in rvr,yet having just respecced i haven't tried other types of swords out.
 
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liste

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By the way a bastard sword hits twice as hard as a 2.6 speed weapon most times and 3.9 spd isn't that slow,when you come face to face with a hero example he would laugh at your damage if you had 2.6 spd but if you had a good right hand it would pack more of a punch.Jambiyas are mainly designed for infs to dual weld.

i simply refuse to believe that.

reason:
DPS = Damage per Second
SPD = Speed (x seconds delay between swings)


math tells me, that to do double damage, you have to have double SPD.

Bastard Sword speed 3.9
Jamb speed 2.6


Bastard/jamba combo swings every 3.9 second with right hand, and will lose 1.3 second on the off hand where the weapon is idle, and waiting for the right hand to swing.

these 1.3 seconds, can be compared to a weapon, because that is the actual extra damage the bastard will do, compared to a jambiya. this means, that a bastard sword hits for 50% more than a jambiya would. at the same time, the jambiya will lose 1 in 3 swings that it could POTENTIALLY do, in a dual jambiya setup.

I am willing to believe, that styles has an effect, that gives the bastard a bit more edge, but unstyled hits, Jambs will ALWAYS have the edge.

if not, all reason and logic eludes this particular question.


</common sense>

:p
 
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old.mattshanes

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Beleive me i have tried all the combos when i was a crush merc,what would you rather do to a tank 150-200 damage or 400-500?and i still HIT A LOT with both weapons although not as much but about 80% of the time.

Common sense=RVR you NEED to do as much damage as possible in a few hits mainly.You aren't going to spend all night trying to kill a target and being nuked silly.Besides we all play our chars differently and we all choose differently.
 
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Artemls

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For a slash merc I would use following:

Right Hand Slot: 99-100% Jambiya
Left Hand Slot: 99-100% Jambiya
2-Hand Slot: 99-100% Sabre

All weapons 16.5dps that will be nice when RR5 and as said before this game is all about looks ;)

Artemis
 
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old.mattshanes

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Yeah but i meaned glowers:p besides when i fought a lv50 sb with a bastard sword/jambiya combo i beat it with about 60% hp left when i used 2 fast weapons which was warmaces at the time as i was crush specced then they were 3 spd i had about 5% left.But then again at rr5 they are good i bet being 16.5.
 
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liste

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of course the alpha strike will be important in RvR. stands to reason.

what we are discussing, though, is Damage dealt.

two equl speeders WILL do more damage (unless the styles somehow influence this, which they might).

Personally, i'd still go for fast attacks as a merc as well.

if you want slow, be a pally or an armsman :)
 
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old.mattshanes

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As i said when rr5 they will but not at the moment.

P.S why be a pala/armsman when i am the best all out damage class in albion?(here we go with the crap replies that we aren't heh but think of it as everytime a polearm hits we do 4 hits)

It's just what you like really at the end of the day.
 
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old.willowywicca

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Originally posted by old.mattshanes
As i said when rr5 they will but not at the moment.

P.S why be a pala/armsman when i am the best all out damage class in albion?(here we go with the crap replies that we aren't heh but think of it as everytime a polearm hits we do 4 hits)

It's just what you like really at the end of the day.

all out best damage dealing tank maybe, caster would out do you tho
 
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liste

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i dont disagree with merc's damage dealing abilities. they are like infil's only on fighter table :p

you wont make 4 hits with a bastard sword, for each pole hit though. you will with a Jamb :)
 
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old.mattshanes

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I said it once,i said it a million times(well could get there:p )jambiyas will be better once rr5.
 
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old.willowywicca

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you don't need to hit 4 times for each pole hit to be out damaging them, average damage on polearms is the same as I do with LW (yes I have *rarely* been hit for 400-600 damage but on average they're about the same) yet they're really really slow in comparison. a merc should I think out damage me fairly easily, were it not for my addition dmg from debuffs and DDs, which an armsman doesn't have
 
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old.mattshanes

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Mal the amount of times we crit with master of pain it's amazing
:D
 
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