Anyone have any idea why...

[Lethul]

alb stealthers being overpowered is total bullshit. it's just the relics.

just watch what this Nightshade on prydwen does with relics : https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=42767&page=1

well, prydwen hibs > excal hibs by a longshot. so nothing new there

 

[Yaemon]

aye.. my skill increased by atleast 100% when I switched from hib/exc to hib/pryd tbh.

 

[Gesta]

PS You forgot to mention the high melee dmg when speced for :x

Yes I forgot that and yes you do hit hard ;P

 

[Danya]

coz in the dark ages u were dead after 1 arrow in ur head.

Or an axe in your head for that matter.
That said, hitting someone in the head with an arrow IRL is not very easy...

 

[Gesta]

God are people still bitching about this game

wasn't exactly bitching was just wondering how the creators can get balance so completely wrong, considering I have to attempt to melee a scout to do dmg and if i do then i just get stunned which sets up an easy zephyr, I have to be lucky that I evade the slam and strafe the zephyr which unless the scout is a gimp they aren't going to miss before they die. And as most scouts can see me even with mos 4 and 50 stealth, kinda gives them a sicko advantage.

This isnt a whine just an observation, I'm not going to give up because of it, I'll keep getting battered just hope I'm some kind of annoyance out there as little as it maybe.

 

[Light]

I've got a sneaking suspicion that albions stealth classes were purposefully made stronger then the other realms counterparts to try to persuade more of albion into the stealth war instead of open field combat.

Right at the beginning of DAoC it was apparent how much of a numerical advantage albion was getting and time has shown that the majority of people would rather reroll a character in their own realm over that of another realm because of friends, its easy, not having to transfer cash etc. So what better way to make more of the numerically advantaged realm to have less of an effect on RvR, then to make their closest to overpowered character a stealther. Hey, even if the difference is only minimal, every little counts right?

This of course has now gone out of the window though with the game being centered around keep warfare...

interesting perspective - although i bet Mythic didnt count on the rivers of QQ'ing generated from such a minority of classes xD

 

[Ego]

So when you throw some stupid shit like that into the equation, should we mention BOF and SOS godlike powers for the same amount of time? This was in reference to the stealthergame, this is not the full group kinda "effected by GP" kinda way.

Giving one archer class the ability to block 90%+ of any arrows fired against them while the two other classes dont have that is seriously bullshit. I dont want carbon copies, but I want comparability, thats all.

My point was that 3 months really isn't a long time to wait till something gets nerfed. Waiting 2 years is worse, so you're not that bad off. Your issue was the amount of time you had to wait, not the abilities. Me putting forward examples such as LA or GP were merely and example of abilities people had to wait much longer for to be nerfed. And yes, SoS and BoF I guess could be one of those examples as well. Then again, I'm looking at stuff from alb pov, so I only see what's being used against me.

(Notice I didnt make one reference to your silly overpowered FOTM class Sollers?)

And what if you did? I couldn't care less really. I've been playing my sorc for years now so I wouldn't be hurt if you would call me overpowered or fotm: It's not my fault it's fotm is it? .And I fully agree, sorcerer is a powerful class, you find yourself lucky that there's only a handful who actually know how to make full use of it.

 

[Kinad]

I mean what are you thinking to attack an enemy who has 2300 ws, 2 relics,
3 types of cc, IP and FZ combined with ranged damage ?

Come prepared or stop whining.

 

[Brynn]

No, Slam is an anytime style.

Slam isn't 8 second stun tho is it
Brutalize is

 

[Flimgoblin]

Slam isn't 8 second stun tho is it
Brutalize is

brutalize is 10 or 11s

 

[OrreBorre]

Anyone have any idea why they allowed scouts to have 8 sec stun, zephyr every 2 mins, ip and sick bow dmg so they can royally fuck anyone and anything over.

Yep, scouts are overpowered leeching twats.

But then again, so are sorcs, bd's, sms, rms, bards, elds, chanters, animists, zerkers and rangers aint too bad either

 

[Brynn]

brutalize is 10 or 11s

bah - then why did my paladin only seem to slam for about 8 seconds

i *KNEW* there was a conspiracy against him - he was too good xD

 

[Jaapi]

Why whine about scouts when you have rangers.....

Wyrdd never told you about character differences other than assassins?

 

[Vodkafairy]

brynn wasnt it your paladin i beat with my bard? or was that coim

 

[Twinky]

alb stealthers being overpowered is total bullshit. it's just the relics.

just watch what this Nightshade on prydwen does with relics : https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=42767&page=1

agree, but is it a 2h that NS is using ?

 

[AngelHeal]

Alb stealthers were overpowered without relics so that argument doesnt hold.

nah m8, ur jsut to sucky to beat albs even if u have relics..

 

[Khartoum]

Anyone have any idea why they allowed scouts to have 8 sec stun, zephyr every 2 mins, ip and sick bow dmg so they can royally fuck anyone and anything over.

Anyone have any idea why they allowed hib casters to all have 9s stun in baseline, or why they allowed skalds to go Sojourner so these classes can royally fuck anyone and anything over?

 

[Vodkafairy]

agree, but is it a 2h that NS is using ?

yeah, i think it is!

 

[Konah]

Some don't spec bow either, prolly as numerous as the bunch who don't spec slam

i dropped slam for 50bow 35thrust 35stealth 29shield (all +15), dont miss it much really, u can always run thru and paralyze or beartooth. used to spend most of an endurance bar trying to land slam just to see it insta-purged.

however, trying to play scout w/o buffbot is only marginally more fun than stabbing needles in ur eyes

 

[Jaem-]

98% ?

rest is afk, solo (0.5% approxi ) or busy rapid firing behind other 50 albs :x

ok, I guess most of the archer population are easily amused... but Zzzzzzzzzz.

 

[Raven]

scouts get all that stuff because useless little adding zerglings need a class to play that carries very little risk of in-game death.

 

[Comos]

uh oh hibs whining, quickly someone give em a power relic to shut em up!

btw you should take it to VN if you actually hope to influence mythic just a weeny bit, whining here won't get you anything except for a /hug from me when you stop crying :wub:

 

[Gesta]

as i said and ill say for the 3rd time, i'm not whining i find it amusing and astounding that they implement characters like that, hopefully sooner or later they might give NS 3 iwin buttons to mess with.

 

[lathoniel]

u lot a royally weird, nothings changed for archers from old emain except the landscape. whingers. i hit for the same dmg as a chanter, but a lot slower. and my arrows dont 9s stun ffs.

 

[Glottis]

I dont really see the problem...
A tank can just engage the scout, and no arrows will hit.
The caster can just quick cast from range and interrupt and fuck over the scout from then onwards...
If we compare scouts to rangers and hunters, we see that scouts are much more defensive oriented, while rangers and hunters are much more offensive (with rangers probably being the best fecking mobile long range tanks ever created by Mythic). Rangers are close to savages with stealth to be honest, and they have range
Regards, Glottis

 

[Gesta]

scouts dont need rangem zephyr a tank bow him to death, zephyr a mage bow him to death... job done

 

[Danya]

The caster can just quick cast from range and interrupt and fuck over the scout from then onwards...

Scout range is 2300 on the flat, caster range is 1500 (mostly). Somehow that doesn't quite work.

 

[bjorne]

3 months, that's a toughie indeed.

What about waiting for GP to be nerfed for 2+ years? Or insta-ichor? Or savage quad-wielding? or left axe?

trust me, 3 months ain't that bad :touch:

+ add that Zephyr is acessable by all realms so it will be a nerf for all sides..

 

[vintervargen]

what annoys most of us most, is that a scout got all these tools, but are any of them soloing?

fuck no, they are 1) on a tower 2) on a keep or 3) together with 3 friends.

seriously scouts... you SUCK

 

[Comos]

but why even bother putting up a petition for this, it ISN'T gonne happen, for the simple reason that Mythic made all those patches after 1.65 to (in THEIR view) balance the game, remove unbalanced abilities, remove bugs and things that weren't intended to work in a certain way. Why on earth would they roll back to what they see as a crappier game?
-OK, I'm talking about Mythic here, may just as well be GOA dunno who makes the decissions on it-

just saying...but it will never ever happen