Anti Chanter tactics

Brannor McThife · Feb 18, 2003

Ok...my view...

Not all 'chanters have purge.
Not all 'chanters have baod.
Not all 'chanters have MoC.

MoC = 14
Acuity 3 = 10
Purge = 10
MCL 1 = 3
baod = 14

Fuck me, but that's 51 RA points. That's RR6L1. And that's excluding any that have taken Serenity or Wild power...

RR6L1 = 1076800 RP.

That means, there are only 2 'chanters on Prydwen that MIGHT have that RA setup. Ok, drop purge, and you're left with 7 'chanters.

The fact is, that most Hib groups are better formed (balanced) than 80% of Mid groups and 50% of Alb groups.

Mids have the problem that they aren't balanced, since half the realm is playing a buffbotted SB solo. Albs just refuse to play a "gimped" class that would actually make something of a difference. The lack of nightshades does sometime have its advantages.

In the end, all those abilities are on 30 minute timers.

And who the fuck was that whining about a bard's mezz? My gawd. Mid Healers are THE CC class. And just wait for the Sorc Mezz changes later...then come whine again.

-G

-mk- · Feb 18, 2003

hooray for ruby bob and the cabalist changes

Brannor McThife · Feb 18, 2003

Originally posted by Meatballs

Cant wait for LoS fixes

Yes you can. I want to pwn chanters with my Necro. :clap:

Can you imagine the look on a 'chanters face at a keep when you mana/life tap him through the wall?

BTW, any class in Alb that debuffs Spirit? Necro's best friend.

-G

succi · Feb 18, 2003

Shades are useful in groups too ^^

Brannor McThife · Feb 18, 2003

Originally posted by succi
Shades are useful in groups too ^^

Let me rephrase. The LOW NUMBER of L50 Nightshades in Hibernia as opposed the zergs that you find in Mid/Alb.

There.

And you were useful in a group, just never group friendly. :flame:

-G

old.mattshanes · Feb 19, 2003

I even have noticed sbs kill enchanters when i have fought hibs they hate them that much

Aule Valar · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by Meatballs

You nuke enchanter! Enchanter q/c stuns you! YOU ARE FOOKED!

You nuke enchanter! Pet attacks you! You are interrupted, you cant escape, you q/c on it, by this time everyones noticed that you are a caster and you have 5 tanks on you.

You nuke enchanter! Enchanter uses BAoD! You hit for 80 (-400) damage!

now where have i seen that before....., ah yes, every other fight

Turamber · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by Brannor McThife
Can you imagine the look on a 'chanters face at a keep when you mana/life tap him through the wall?

BTW, any class in Alb that debuffs Spirit? Necro's best friend.

-G

Spirit cabbys have spirit debuffs - however I can't say I've ever met one as the spec line is so gimped.

As for the look on the chanters face ... would like to see the look on YOUR face when you find out that necromancers can't actually even get INTO keeps until patch 1.60. And even then they have to jump up each individual stair to get anywhere

Eliz · Feb 19, 2003

What I wouldnt give for a spirit debuffing Cabalist bot...

tildson · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by Aule Valar

now where have i seen that before....., ah yes, every other fight

Well, you guys have BoF so

And mid have perfect rez *tihi*

old.Emma · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by Turamber

Spirit cabbys have spirit debuffs - however I can't say I've ever met one as the spec line is so gimped.

As for the look on the chanters face ... would like to see the look on YOUR face when you find out that necromancers can't actually even get INTO keeps until patch 1.60. And even then they have to jump up each individual stair to get anywhere

umm brannor`s been playing SI for the past 3 months i think he would be aware of that problem if it existed

armado · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by vayasen
Of course...with the manachanter team leader asking for them to get stealth in the next patch....we will need to devise more tactics.

can my paladin have a A - bomb to?

Slinker · Feb 19, 2003

"cough" level 50 Enchantress and never and I mean NEVER used a pet in RvR . Rather use some sort of skill , seems we never get to do that nowadays

Draigo · Feb 19, 2003

Found firing my xbow at them is great fun, also great when the little fookers are are spamming their PB buttons in Lord Room, killed one at lords with me wubbley xbow :clap:

Turamber · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by old.Emma

umm brannor`s been playing SI for the past 3 months i think he would be aware of that problem if it existed

Umm, it does ... check out the VN Boards - not to mention the 1.6 patch notes :eek:

old.Sko · Feb 19, 2003

Spam lowest level ae mez. 2 power per cast.
Pluses it sticks on pets. It _doesnt_ stick on anyone else. It just keeps them interrupted, regardless of whether baod is on or off.

eben · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by Eliz
What I wouldnt give for a spirit debuffing Cabalist bot...

Well, if I could be guaranteed an air theurgist bot/pet in RvR I'll happily roll a spirit cabbie

47 spirit
24 body
11 matter

seems a nice spec.

Uber pet
Top body and spirit debuffs
1st nearsight
2nd aoe disease

In RvR I'd spam debuffs and watch the theurg rake in the RPs. I'd chip in with body debuff and body nukes, with Bob bashing some too.

What do you think?

Brannor McThife · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by Turamber

Umm, it does ... check out the VN Boards - not to mention the 1.6 patch notes

Yes, it does indeed say that. Did I say that it was at a keep attack? Keep Defense will pwn, as you put the pet on stay, port out, pick a target, port in, and zap!

Keep attack, you aren't that much better, except that you don't have to care about the person stepping out and then hiding again, you just pick a target and nuke. But at Keep Lord attack...hell, jumping up the steps is a small price to pay to be able to walk into the Lord's room, with your pet in the room below, and pick the enchanter out, go back down the stairs, and NUKE THE SHITE OUT OF THE LITTLE FUCKER! <coughs>

Or, just nail their healer... continuous manataps, etc.

Just wait...the Hibs and Mids will be whining VERY soon.

-G

Teh Fonz!!1 · Feb 19, 2003

I've been duelling lots of chanters recently with my mentalist and I consider them to be the easiet of all classes to kill.

First stand far away and let them summon a pet and buff it.

When the duel starts quickly press STT, this makes the pet start kicking the chanters ass. Drop a DoT or two and sit down, maybe make a cup of tea.

Also works on Theurgists, Cabalists and SpiritMasters.

What? You don't get STT?

Oh well...

stafford · Feb 19, 2003

im sure they give mana chanters MoC at lvl 15

as for the best anti chanter tactic

dont go to emain and
dont stand next to them !

Teh Fonz!!1 · Feb 19, 2003

Best thing to do is go to Hib for a day or two and level up an enchanter.

It's only until you play the class that you discover it's weakness'.

hib-incanter · Feb 19, 2003

While dueling, ive tried out 2 things which works vs chanters with my mentalist (now this may not apply to other realms, but bear with me)

1: Mes pet, qc stun enchy, dot enchy, dot enchy, run, dead enchy

2: Severing the tether (ment only RA, makes all pets in aoe range attack their owners), qc dot (or stun), dead enchy

old.SadonTheGrey · Feb 19, 2003

Meatballs you summed every complaint I have about chanters in your lil masterpiece. The pets are definitely the worst thing.

civy · Feb 19, 2003

Don’t use mezz against pets if you have confuse. A confused pet will just stand there without fighting back while you hit it.
It appears to remove all control from the pet owner.

Eliz · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by eben

Well, if I could be guaranteed an air theurgist bot/pet in RvR I'll happily roll a spirit cabbie

47 spirit
24 body
11 matter

seems a nice spec.

Uber pet
Top body and spirit debuffs
1st nearsight
2nd aoe disease

In RvR I'd spam debuffs and watch the theurg rake in the RPs. I'd chip in with body debuff and body nukes, with Bob bashing some too.

What do you think?

You got yourself a deal pal. Now go respec and lemme know when youre done.

kain_pravus · Feb 19, 2003

k how do you get the little ***** out of the lords room?

Other than by a huge zerg resulting in probably most/all being very dead very fast.... Unless you can F8 the right target by pure luck quick enough cos of lag?

-mk- · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by kain_pravus
k how do you get the little ***** out of the lords room?

Other than by a huge zerg resulting in probably most/all being very dead very fast.... Unless you can F8 the right target by pure luck quick enough cos of lag?

1. GTAE
2. AE an archer near the lord's room
3. trebuchet (variant of 1.)
4. send a shadowzerg up there

Meatballs · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by Brannor McThife

Yes you can. I want to pwn chanters with my Necro.

Can you imagine the look on a 'chanters face at a keep when you mana/life tap him through the wall?

BTW, any class in Alb that debuffs Spirit? Necro's best friend.

-G

spirit cabalists and everyones roles one, because albs do actually like to roll completly gimped classes to help their realm.

Meatballs · Feb 19, 2003

Originally posted by old.Sko
Spam lowest level ae mez. 2 power per cast.
Pluses it sticks on pets. It _doesnt_ stick on anyone else. It just keeps them interrupted, regardless of whether baod is on or off.

but they can work out where you are and q/c stun as soon as it wears off (5 secs?), plus dont have ae mezz O-o

old.Iunliten · Feb 19, 2003

Drop an insta at the pet so it stops casting.

All caster classes got access to an insta, Wizard and Mentalist through RA.

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