Alb v Mid keep taking.

[Nebel]

The raid me and Ruathian planned wasn't dangerous at all, we wouldn't have gone further than Beno, not that day atleast. And if you wanna grab a keep do like I just did, skip the night keep takes. Cuz if you don't, I'll do the same thing to you Check my record, I can and will raid you prime time, but not if you with yer superior zerg tactics keep taking keeps at night I may begin to wonder if its worth the trouble of doing it prime time.

Bring back Herbal, he so pwns you in tactics and sometimes me

Please Napoleon... show us your drawn battle-maps... give us insight in your l33t tactics u showed yesterday!!!!

You "wouldnt have gone further"?... ROFLMAO my ass... u got slapped silly at Beno.... but that was just caus u didnt WANT to go further, aye?

 

[Ardamel]

If you want to do a AC raid ardamel just say so

No I don't.

Mid pwr relic was taken prime time so we'll take it prime time, str relics we're taken at 02.45 CET so those I can pretty much go for whenever the opportune moment arises, let's say 02.44 CET shall we?

 

[Cerberos]

Go ahead and plan a non prime time raid arda, alb havnt earned any respect since NF so lets play it thier way.

 

[Edaemos]

I cant remember how many times i saw mids take an alb keep between 1am>5am to keep DF in OF even though albion had no relics, now albs do it for fun and mids whine.

Good stuff mids keep it coming

 

[Edaemos]

No I don't.

let's say 02.44 CET shall we?

Sure why break a habit eh

 

[Ardamel]

Please Napoleon... show us your drawn battle-maps... give us insight in your l33t tactics u showed yesterday!!!!

You "wouldnt have gone further"?... ROFLMAO my ass... u got slapped silly at Beno.... but that was just caus u didnt WANT to go further, aye?

My raid wasn't elite at all but certainly more elite than the albs bled raid, 140 albs got spanked by 60 mids, wouldn't you say?. It didn't take much planning, but it took a huge effort to get 120 mids for it. We slapped you silly at Beno till the moment we went for beno t4 which we shouldn't have. Big mistake I admit that.

Time for a keep take eh? Me and Ruathian has come up with a plan that could work for grabbing Benowyc and establish porting there. Midgard is at it's all time low atm and it's become clear that spontaneous keep takes just arent possible anymore.

The plan is simple and based on simultaneous multiple tower takes. There will be 4 teams, 1 big and 3 small teams. Each of the 4 teams will grab a tower at Benoyc, Erasleigh, Boldiam and Berkstead. The Benowyc team will be the largest and should reach the Benowyc central keep first. The rest of the teams will rendezvous with the big team there after they have completed their initial task, and aid them in the taking of Benowyc itself and the remaining towers at Benowyc.

Meet at: Svasud Faste (Frostum will hand out diminutive siege rams there, 3 dim rams = 1 war ram)
Time: Thursday 20.00 CET 16/12-MMIV obs! time has been changed to Thurday instead of Wednesday

The big team:

If possible these days, the big team will consist of 4 balanced FGs. If need to be, dust of yer old healers and tanks. Only bring yer hunter if you got a fool's bow at lvl 10. The task is simple, this team will grab Benowyc t3 then move fast as hell straight for Beno gates. These grps must be balanced and the ram grp should have atleast 4 healers so that the ram can be kept on the door even if the oil is pouring on em.

The small teams:

TDA/TDD - Eras t3 or Eras t4
Nazgul/Realm Defenders - Boldiam t3 or Boldiam t4
White Rose/Bokkerijders - Berkstead t4

The small teams will position themselver nearby their towers when the raid itself is about to start. On a given signal, the small teams and the big team will attack their assigned towers, grab it fast like hell then head for benowyc itself. I'm also thinking of having Pure Vision and Groove on standby, ready to aid any of the teams who don't get enough ppl. Otherwise Pure Vision and Groove will be on guard duty at the side door/bridges of Benowyc.

Nothing special at all. 60 mids spanking 140 albs is a little better than 200 albs spanking 120 mids

 

[Bracken]

No I don't.

Mid pwr relic was taken prime time so we'll take it prime time, str relics we're taken at 02.45 CET so those I can pretty much go for whenever the opportune moment arises, let's say 02.44 CET shall we?

Keeps were all taken primetime. If you take the keeps primetime and albs don't defend adequately (as mids failed to do) then you are more than welcome to stroll in at whatever time you like and pick up the relic. I'll even put a ribbon on it for you If however you start taking keeps at 2.44 am then you will merely be living up to your stereotypical reputation

 

[Ardamel]

Keeps were all taken primetime. If you take the keeps primetime and albs don't defend adequately (as mids failed to do) then you are more than welcome to stroll in at whatever time you like and pick up the relic. I'll even put a ribbon on it for you If however you start taking keeps at 2.44 am then you will merely be living up to your stereotypical reputation

I was talking about removing the relics from their shrines at that hour yes.

 

[Cerberos]

Keeps were all taken primetime. If you take the keeps primetime and albs don't defend adequately (as mids failed to do) then you are more than welcome to stroll in at whatever time you like and pick up the relic. I'll even put a ribbon on it for you If however you start taking keeps at 2.44 am then you will merely be living up to your stereotypical reputation

Like albs are doing now? please tell us when we started to take keeps in the middle of the night?

 

[Nebel]

60 mids spanking 140 albs...

when and where was that?... dunno which battle u refer to here.

 

[Ardamel]

when and where was that?... dunno which battle u refer to here.

Thuesday m8, thuesday

 

[Belomar]

Xajorkith whining again, what else is new?

 

[Nebel]

Thuesday m8, thuesday

ahh... well, wouldnt really call it a raid tho... started with some bored albs that somehow gathered there without any siege-stuff...hehe

 

[Vodkafairy]

we're at a point where unorganised alb defence has so many people they can trample organised raids of both hib and mid

dont you agree that kinda sucks ¿

 

[Ardamel]

ahh... well, wouldnt really call it a raid tho... started with some bored albs that somehow gathered there without any siege-stuff...hehe

You see, therein is the problem. You can get 140 albs for a spontaneous raid without any efforts at all to get ppl, we have to really work for it, to get alot less than that. It's not the albs fault, hey I would do the same if I was in your position.

We get 60 mids showing up for defense and albs get 200 when the same things happens to them. Maybe it's the defeatism thinigie that other guy talked about in a thread here or maybe it's just a tiny little bit unbalanced, nevertheless, albs are doing nothing wrong with gathering those numbers. I just wish we could aswell so we can give you a fair fight. And YES mids will win in the end, I won't allow anything else

 

[Xajorkith]

Xajorkith whining again, what else is new?

Belomar flaming Xajorkith, what else is new?

 

[Marc]

Like albs are doing now? please tell us when we started to take keeps in the middle of the night?

Bracken was referring to the stereotype of mids only being able to pull off non prime time raids, ie starting taking keeps at 3am.

 

[Ardamel]

Bracken was referring to the stereotype of mids only being able to pull off non prime time raids, ie starting taking keeps at 3am.

The Herbal's gift raid

 

[Marc]

we're at a point where unorganised alb defence has so many people they can trample organised raids of both hib and mid

dont you agree that kinda sucks ¿

Can you please point out why the alb defense was unorganised? Was probably one of the best organised frontier defenses I have seen in a long time. DO you think Tappi just said "ALL TO BENO LETS ZERG THE MOFOS"

 

[Cerberos]

Bracken was referring to the stereotype of mids only being able to pull off non prime time raids, ie starting taking keeps at 3am.

When was our last non prime time raid? Arda is doing a hell of a job giving you the chance to defend your keeps/relics while you piss it all away but taking everything non prime time. We are now in NF if you want to talk about old frontier then talk by all means cause albs were just as bad as mid in old frontiers.

 

[Edaemos]

And YES mids will win in the end, I won't allow anything else

Gentlemen start your alarmclocks.

 

[Ardamel]

Can you please point out why the alb defense was unorganised? Was probably one of the best organised frontier defenses I have seen in a long time. DO you think Tappi just said "ALL TO BENO LETS ZERG THE MOFOS"

No, he probably said: "ALL TO BENO, GRAB THAT TOWER WHEN MOVING THERE ETC, ZERG THE MOFOS"

 

[Marc]

Ardamel, do you even know what stereotype means? Im glad for you that you managed to take a hib relic. There are 2 things youve overlooked.

1. It was on hibernia
2. it was OF

You can pat yourself on the back as much as you want, about your last successful prime time raid, but just to refresh my memory, when was the last time alb relic was taken during prime time?

 

[Vodkafairy]

Can you please point out why the alb defense was unorganised? Was probably one of the best organised frontier defenses I have seen in a long time. DO you think Tappi just said "ALL TO BENO LETS ZERG THE MOFOS"

if that was organised it was stupid, you focus your entire zerg on a 30-40 hib crew farming you shitless in the eras tower when beno was going down?

we weren't even close to breaching the wall in eras when mids were already on beno inner tower. please dont tell me that was actually organised heh

oh wait, you'll just steamroll anything with superiour numbers only making any effort to try and raid alb utterly pointless. no many how many hours we put into preparation, we can not reach the numbers you can rally in ~10 minutes for defence. not a fucking chance in hell.

you think thats fair? or fun? id be bored shitless if there was no challenge at all. one /as call and its done.

btw, i dinged lvl 42 off albs in the eras tower, thx

 

[Marc]

No, he probably said: "ALL TO BENO, GRAB THAT TOWER WHEN MOVING THERE ETC, ZERG THE MOFOS"

HA!

Even if he did, its a bit better than saying..

"Gentlemen, start your alarmclocks!!!"

 

[Vodkafairy]

HA!

Even if he did, its a bit better than saying..

"Gentlemen, start your alarmclocks!!!"

what are you talking about

?

this was a primetime raid which was simply overrun by a clueless zerg, exactely what could he have done differently? next to going for the beno tower, even if all mids had stayed inside beno, they would still be outnumbered in a lvl 1 keep.

both albs and mids arent saints when it comes to the time of the raid, and its absolutely ridiculess to blame someone for things in the past when hes trying a primetime raid

would you rather have all of us quit or pve? what are you actually trying to accomplish? getting arda to give up? yeah, that'll be fun. if nobody does anything anymore

 

[Ardamel]

Ardamel, do you even know what stereotype means? Im glad for you that you managed to take a hib relic. There are 2 things youve overlooked.

1. It was on hibernia
2. it was OF

You can pat yourself on the back as much as you want, about your last successful prime time raid, but just to refresh my memory, when was the last time alb relic was taken during prime time?

Albs have never given me a reason to take the relics prime time, unlike the hibs. Not really now either, but NF has brought alot of new things and a sucessful prime time raid on alb is on my "to-do-list" I have tried seriously once before in OF, it failed miserably due to 300 albs being in sauvage before we even got there. Of course we farmed em silly for hours on the excal road and it was a great and funny raid, but it didnt give any relics.

 

[Knolan]

what are you talking about

?

this was a primetime raid which was simply overrun by a clueless zerg, exactely what could he have done differently? next to going for the beno tower, even if all mids had stayed inside beno, they would still be outnumbered in a lvl 1 keep.

both albs and mids arent saints when it comes to the time of the raid, and its absolutely ridiculess to blame someone for things in the past when hes trying a primetime raid

would you rather have all of us quit or pve? what are you actually trying to accomplish? getting arda to give up? yeah, that'll be fun. if nobody does anything anymore

3 things
1: your not right about clueless.
2: i totally agree on the "past things"
3: i indeed DONT wanna lose the competition.

imo take the relic's primetime or AC raid or what so ever, we are ALL sinners if it comes to certain times of taking relic's and tbh i dont give a fuck, the game is about rp's and relics(for the RvR aspect). i rather have the relics hopping over and over than them being @ 1 spot for 2 years.

(p.s: keep the mid stealther pop low pls if u get the relics xD)

 

[Flimgoblin]

we're at a point where unorganised alb defence has so many people they can trample organised raids of both hib and mid

dont you agree that kinda sucks ¿

it wasn't unorganised - we had tower retake forces, keep defence forces.

It wasn't uberorganised with a master-plan (tm) but it was organised.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Quite funny really - if Albs turn up with a sizeable force to attack or defend (sometimes well - sometimes less so....) its mindless zerging.

Mids turn up with a sizeable force then its good planning.

Theres a word for that....

(btw actually really pleased to see mids get of their arses and stop whining - makes life more interesting. but Vodka is right - if you attack, and its repulsed then you will have a large force of pissed of Albs heading your way)