alarmclock

[Netcode]

If people who play the game late in any realm want to take a pop at the relics, then good on them.

If people start raiding in primetime and carry on to take the relics late after a long hard fight, good on them.

If people pre-arrange lots of players getting up at 3am to start a raid, in order to ensure there's no chance it will fail - it's lame.

The last proper big AC raid was probably the OF Mid one, organised by White Rose, that broke the truce on AC raids. 150-200 Mids got up especially to do the raid, as pre-arranged. THAT, my friends, is a fucking alarm clock raid. Anyone who says anything else is a fool, or Netcode.

or me? wtf?

 

[Glenmorangie]

Which is bullshit, and you know it. I remember the first NF raid that Alb did, because I was on it - and it was primetime, starting before 10pm. Yes it finished about 2am, but you had plenty of opportunities to retake your keeps and defend your relics, by preventing us from porting into Mid. Instead, you CHOSE to try and pack your relic keep with people - a tactic which worked in OF, but was doomed to failure in NF when you can keep porting people back straight into the battle. You had plenty of warning of the raid, plenty of chances to defend, but you ballsed it up and have been whining about so-called AC raids every since.

And yes, for a long time we complained about the fact that Midgard, having failed to retake a relic primetime without Ardamel (the only Mid capable of leading a proper raid), resorted to a true AC raid - assembling a large force deliberately early, seeking to avoid giving us the chance to defend. Midgard was the realm that broke the loose agreement to keep raids primetime. Not Albion. Not Hibernia. Midgard. After that, all bets were off.

Frankly, I stopped caring much about relics after you broke that agreement, because as I knew and stated on many occasions, it would inevitably lead to all realms doing AC raids. I'm not interested in doing them or being part of them, so relics mean nothing to me now.

Don't try and rewrite fucking history Xajorkith, because both you and I have been around long enough to know what really happened.

Actually noaim pulled off a succesful prime time raid in NF. And as far as i know (havent played alot last few months) all other mid attempts were prime time.

And where is Xajorkith rewriting history? Albs started the first AC raid, Mids had a period of doing them, now its albs who don't seem to be able to pull off a prime time raid, while mids and hibs(i think) have. Those 2 realms with 25% less active characters than alb...

(40-30)/40 * 100 = 25% , incase someone doesn't understand how percentages work

 

[Gordonax]

And where is Xajorkith rewriting history? Albs started the first AC raid, Mids had a period of doing them, now its albs who don't seem to be able to pull off a prime time raid,

We did a primetime raid. In my book, a raid that starts early and finishes late is fine. I haven't been keeping close track of who's raiding when lately - like I also said, I really don't give a toss about relics anymore.

As for Xajorkith rewriting history, it was when he said "only then for every NF raid they did to be have done 2-am 6-am"

As I said, the first NF Alb relic raid (led by Tappi, iirc) started well before those times. I think there was a second one (also led by Tappi) not long after, same sort of routine.

while mids and hibs(i think) have. Those 2 realms with 25% less active characters than alb...

(40-30)/40 * 100 = 25% , incase someone doesn't understand how percentages work

And a 25% numerical advantage isn't enough to give you the ability to simply zerg relics. Defending relics is easier than taking them - assuming equal numbers and equal tactics, defenders should always win.

 

[Gordonax]

or me? wtf?

From what I've read of this raid, it was simply people who normally play late taking a pop at the relics, which isn't an alarm clock raid - no matter what you think.

 

[Netcode]

From what I've read of this raid, it was simply people who normally play late taking a pop at the relics, which isn't an alarm clock raid - no matter what you think.

Ye prolly was, but clustering inc soonish so reset on relics

 

[Kaelimar]

Actually noaim pulled off a succesful prime time raid in NF. And as far as i know (havent played alot last few months) all other mid attempts were prime time.

And where is Xajorkith rewriting history? Albs started the first AC raid, Mids had a period of doing them, now its albs who don't seem to be able to pull off a prime time raid, while mids and hibs(i think) have. Those 2 realms with 25% less active characters than alb...

hmm lets check the last raids then.. maybe it was... hmm hibs that took em all early in the morning or am i misstaken

mids RR was a nice raid and in primetime also

 

[Dorin]

just forget about relics after reset, no idiot bonuses ensures abit more even playing field :F

 

[Glenmorangie]

We did a primetime raid. In my book, a raid that starts early and finishes late is fine. I haven't been keeping close track of who's raiding when lately - like I also said, I really don't give a toss about relics anymore.

As for Xajorkith rewriting history, it was when he said "only then for every NF raid they did to be have done 2-am 6-am"

As I said, the first NF Alb relic raid (led by Tappi, iirc) started well before those times. I think there was a second one (also led by Tappi) not long after, same sort of routine.

Well, problem is the relics were taken at an ungodly hour. Thats my opinion though, havent been on a RR after 0:00 CET that i can remember and definetly haven't gotten up in the middle of the night. Did Tappi plan it to take on that long? Would think that's almost as bad as an AC raid. Again, its the trend, Albs hardly even bothered with prime time raids

And a 25% numerical advantage isn't enough to give you the ability to simply zerg relics. Defending relics is easier than taking them - assuming equal numbers and equal tactics, defenders should always win.

My point was Mids and Hibs have alot less people, yet they manage to do prime time raids. We have more defenders against us and we have fewer groups to dispatch for things as taking towers or stalling the enemies, because you can always use 3-4 FG extra in a RR, can cut off porting from 2-4 extra keeps with em.

 

[Glenmorangie]

hmm lets check the last raids then.. maybe it was... hmm hibs that took em all early in the morning or am i misstaken

mids RR was a nice raid and in primetime also

Cant really speak for the hibs and havent played that much lately, especially not late. They always held the high ground in OF, that's still sticking with me.

 

[Jaem-]

So we have a relic now? Str?

<dreams of coming home from work and not hitting like a gimp>

 

[Nomans Land]

It started as a farm session then like 4 PPl showed up so we stoled your relic far and squar

Hey thats my tactic... cheatorz!

 

[Dalilama]

And a 25% numerical advantage isn't enough to give you the ability to simply zerg relics. Defending relics is easier than taking them - assuming equal numbers and equal tactics, defenders should always win.

not in midguard we didn´t have any good keep defending class as some other realms hade then, when that friar zerged mid for over a week to get 3 relics? and atm we have 1 class that can defend now but alb did get a new good kamikaze ress that can wipe or intrupt all that is defending, so it has always been hard for mid to defend anyting. cant say this friar did a primetime or not cant remember, i do remember that i saw the shit zerg everywhere and loged and did not get online for a week, coz the lagg was crap and like 3times the number to fight.

a well my luch time is over back to work

 

[Gethin]

If people who play the game late in any realm want to take a pop at the relics, then good on them.

If people start raiding in primetime and carry on to take the relics late after a long hard fight, good on them.

If people pre-arrange lots of players getting up at 3am to start a raid, in order to ensure there's no chance it will fail - it's lame.

The last proper big AC raid was probably the OF Mid one, organised by White Rose, that broke the truce on AC raids. 150-200 Mids got up especially to do the raid, as pre-arranged. THAT, my friends, is a fucking alarm clock raid. Anyone who says anything else is a fool, or Netcode.

Couldn't have said it any better, so i wont, ill just quote it.

 

[Cerberos]

Another alarm clock raid by Albs... starting to feel sorry for albs/pryd having to share frontiers with these albs

 

[DrunkSkunk]

So we have a relic now? Str?

<dreams of coming home from work and not hitting like a gimp>

pwr.. so still gimp

 

[Eeben]

So its only mid/hib who can take relics at night?

 

[Marc]

haha nice one albs. Brings a smile to my face watching the mids and hibs cry.

 

[Bracken]

Alarmclock Raid = setting alarm clocks to get up in the middle of the night to get a relic. (done by sad f*ckers).

Redbull Raid = staying up all night playing and grabbing a relic as the opportunity arises. (done by students).

This was clearly a Redbull Raid.

And grats btw

 

[Deadnala]

haha nice one albs. Brings a smile to my face watching the mids and hibs cry.

you forgot already how hard you cryed when hibs took the relic?

 

[Lisaliten]

/beg mids to do AC raid on alb. Then let em keep it. Fair rvr ftw

 

[Calo]

Which is bullshit, and you know it. I remember the first NF raid that Alb did, because I was on it - and it was primetime, starting before 10pm. Yes it finished about 2am, but you had plenty of opportunities to retake your keeps and defend your relics, by preventing us from porting into Mid. Instead, you CHOSE to try and pack your relic keep with people - a tactic which worked in OF, but was doomed to failure in NF when you can keep porting people back straight into the battle. You had plenty of warning of the raid, plenty of chances to defend, but you ballsed it up and have been whining about so-called AC raids every since.

And yes, for a long time we complained about the fact that Midgard, having failed to retake a relic primetime without Ardamel (the only Mid capable of leading a proper raid), resorted to a true AC raid - assembling a large force deliberately early, seeking to avoid giving us the chance to defend. Midgard was the realm that broke the loose agreement to keep raids primetime. Not Albion. Not Hibernia. Midgard. After that, all bets were off.

Frankly, I stopped caring much about relics after you broke that agreement, because as I knew and stated on many occasions, it would inevitably lead to all realms doing AC raids. I'm not interested in doing them or being part of them, so relics mean nothing to me now.

Don't try and rewrite fucking history Xajorkith, because both you and I have been around long enough to know what really happened.

lol what a stupid argument? what agreement? 60% of the fucking server doesnt even READ this forum so how the FUCK can u make an agreement with 40% of the server? But like u said, loose agreement so it was pointless actually.

Since NF u can't say that mids do bad rr's as we did some pretty nice primetime raids.

rest i agree with u.

 

[Gordonax]

lol what a stupid argument? what agreement? 60% of the fucking server doesnt even READ this forum so how the FUCK can u make an agreement with 40% of the server? But like u said, loose agreement so it was pointless actually.

Simple: Because the agreement held. For six months or longer, no one from any of the realms tried any alarm clock raids. And the people that did eventually break it - WR - certainly read FH and knew all about it, but simply decided they couldn't live without that all-important relic bonus any longer.

rest i agree with u.

Awww, thanks

 

[Netcode]

/beg mids to do AC raid on alb. Then let em keep it. Fair rvr ftw

Cba with AC, its booring doesnt gifv much rps and it sure hell is pointless now since clustering inc :>

 

[Marc]

you forgot already how hard you cryed when hibs took the relic?

Hey Mr Shit for brains. Go bump the last few hib/mid AC raid threads and you will see i congratulated them.

What was that? You look like a tit now?

Your the only here and a stupid at that.

 

[Gordonax]

Well, problem is the relics were taken at an ungodly hour. Thats my opinion though, havent been on a RR after 0:00 CET that i can remember and definetly haven't gotten up in the middle of the night. Did Tappi plan it to take on that long? Would think that's almost as bad as an AC raid. Again, its the trend, Albs hardly even bothered with prime time raids

It wasn't really planned as a relic raid to start with, iirc, just developed into on as the evening wore on. I get what you mean about the relics being taken at a late hour, but the thing was that they were really lost long before that, when Mids didn't retake their keeps (or rather keep - I think they could have taken one keep and stopped the relic raid, by preventing porting in). And the relics certainly weren't undefended - they were just defended badly.

 

[snoepie]

24/7 game , get over it QQ

 

[eble]

gratz and all that.

Let the mayhem begin when we cluster and the relics get reset.

Eble

 

[Docs]

Alarmclock Raid = setting alarm clocks to get up in the middle of the night to get a relic. (done by sad f*ckers).

Redbull Raid = staying up all night playing and grabbing a relic as the opportunity arises. (done by students).

This was clearly a Redbull Raid.

And grats btw

Thats a nice definition, a RB RR. Lets see if it sticks

 

[Jaem-]

pwr.. so still gimp

Boring.

 

[wittor]

next time take the str ty