after 3 years albs at last balanced....

[Loxleyhood]

No, I don't expect it to change, you're always going to have people like it. Just waiting for NF now, a big fat ass stone wall between me and the peasants.

 

[Venomic]

actually it could be sorted a bit. by changing the places we fight, in emain all figthing happends between atk -> mtk.
the adding would be minimized by spredding out a bit more, for example running to gorge and stuff like that.
The space between mtk and atk isnt enough for all the fg's.. especially if they want 1fgVs1fg.. Spread it out..

 

[Ilienwyn]

It's a perfect zerg leech group but for fg vs fg fights there are better options (like getting a banelord or a friar - believe it or not it helps if your casters dont get 2-shot by hib and mid mages)

Hah, get a banelord? They are too busy prefering low rr or even unTOAed casters over banelord or BG friars...

 

[Vodkafairy]

nothing wrong with running 2fg if you take the fancy to it - just if you then come on FH posting about "omg some other arses were running 2fg when we were only 1fg and l33t!!!!!" and whining it makes you a monstrous hypocrit.

Though we've had no guilds doing that on here at all lately... oh no...

yeah i agree

 

[Chronictank]

Good fight last night, cabby/sorc grp works quite well but we had a couple of det 5 tanks which caused u problems, could have gone either way up to when the hibs steamrolled us

 

[enigma]

exinfer was spirit with the intention of debuffing before any of the ones you have listed as being 'first'. Not _that_ active in rvr, but he was still before those ppl.

 

[Gordonax]

easy to counter cg... dont join it. lessens zerg

The CG also tells you where your realm-mates are - and therefore, where not to go if you really want to avoid them.

The fact is a lot of so-called "fg" obsessives claim they don't want to zerg, but then run around the most-used bits of emain. What they want is cheap RPs, not decent fights. Rather than go to the quieter bits of the frontiers, where they'll get one fight every ten-fifteen minutes (but it'll be a real 1fg vs 1fg fight) they want fast RPs.

But then we all know this.

 

[Clipse]

Btw its bs midgard got similar emain cg, since i started rvsr with my sm i never ever been in emain cg and not sure if its exists or not, Been in cg twice: once with my svg, it was pretoa

Oh yes and i have been in alb emain cg too not so long ago... nm :Ä

yer ok Dorin, we believe u. Midds don't use Cg.

 

[Belomar]

exinfer was spirit with the intention of debuffing before any of the ones you have listed as being 'first'. Not _that_ active in rvr, but he was still before those ppl.

Ahh, yes, I forgot about him. The first spirit cabalist I know about, however, even before Exinfer, Sculptor, Ciclya and others, was Balthasar (with an S or a Z, I forgot) in SS. He was spirit while levelling up around the introduction of SI, but only made it to 48 before retiring (). He never indicated the strength of the debuff+LT combo in RvR, however, and seemed to rely on his pet exclusively.

 

[Vindicator]

exinfer was spirit with the intention of debuffing before any of the ones you have listed as being 'first'. Not _that_ active in rvr, but he was still before those ppl.

As was Zirex also didnt get Active in RvR. Just stopped playing. I believe Cerdin saw Zirex in action a few times and liked it

 

[Hotrats]

can only comment from the POV of the groups I have played in (bard, warden, 2 druid, tank, tank, mage, tank/mage)

the group can be dangerous when the following things happen:
a) you lose mez and GP/purge is down
b) support fails to interrupt enemy casters (1 good nature druid usually nullifies the group)
c) your group is mage heavy and they manage to quickly kill your mages

It's a perfect zerg leech group but for fg vs fg fights there are better options (like getting a banelord or a friar - believe it or not it helps if your casters dont get 2-shot by hib and mid mages)

Many hibs have reacted already and adapted their setups to counter the mage heavy alb groups (yes this is not the only such group - about 50% of the albs in emain are either sorcs, cabas, wizards or theurgs). A hib group with 1 mage (imo light eld or warlord light menta with STT) and 3 tanks will win against that group in 9 out of 10 cases.

Would be interesting how mid groups perform against such kind of groups but I doubt a decent mid group will have any problems (mid assist train with 3 tanks can easily insta kill mages even with bof up and a dd caster like darkness runie or darkness SM can kill mages almost like light elds or mentas (same dmg type but no relic bonus ofc)).

Havent watched the movie so no comment on that. Anyway it's good to see a regular alb group out.

Agreed. We played around with a 2 sorc 1 caba 2 cleric 1 friar 1 merc 1 theurg group last night, seemed to work well. Hopefully some more experimentation this evening... nerf work! (so many sorcies overtaking me, /me miss my unemployed days )

 

[flex]

did same setup before but with reaver instead of merc. Works very nice vs hibs, hard of u get jumped by mids tho.

I wonder if merc + reaver would be better then merc/reaver + theurg

 

[Valgyr]

i still think a mixed grp will work better then this pure caster grp, ofc when u get the jump or add its uber but i wouldnt build a grp around it, as alb i would try:

2 clerics
1 friar
1 mincer(spd sos stun DDs FZ backup CC insta pet mezz in NF is still V good stuff, as well as decent melee and 1 more demezzer in grp)
1 reaver/body sorc depending on what u like better
1 mind sorc 40 36 spec
1 cabby
1 split spec thuerg

2 casters with debuffs is is fine with lots of pets and 2-3 meleers attacking and 1 petspammer then also a assist nuker and its easier to keep this grp alive if u get jumped, a merc would work well over the reaver but the reaver is planned for NF when det gets nerfed and tanks dont get cheap RAs

 

[Dorin]

yer ok Dorin, we believe u. Midds don't use Cg.

yeh i could be wrong, was speaking about myself there kinda... believe it or not up to you Anyways even if mids doing cg our RR11 doods aint yelling HELP GOBOS in it

 

[Afternoon Tea]

GoL had the first Fixed Debuff group back before toa was ever released, it was Belanna, Stt, Dreams, Krane, Riell, Herbal, Anyu, and Rhenon, not the same setup we run today, but still a debuff group. 2 body sorcs nuking for 700 dmg each on a debuffed target really does hurt. I have a movie (Pre-Toa) of our fixed group. When ToA came out the group split up, krane went to hib, riell went to pryd, aus left gol ect. But this group was by far the best I've ever had the privilage of being in.

Movie Link: ftp://aqe.campus.luth.se/Albs/RvR/Debuffgrp.avi

 

[AmeinoN]

such good news for the other 9 classes of albion huh

Hardmode

 

[CorNokZ]

all zergers mejts!

All wajns tbh... :wub:

 

[vintervargen]

cleric
cleric
sorc (mind)
paladin (battlemaster)
friar (battlemaster)
reaver (banelord)
cabby (spirit)
theurgist/cabby/sorc

w000th

 

[Arnor]

I neither Asked Nor Care. Go tell your mother for all I care about the reason's why you did this or that. I just really cant stand arse bandits mouthing off about how stupid 'albs' are and what not. Fucking Realm Bigot

you brought it up
albs as a unit are stupid, im sorry.
You have your portion of uberskilled and very intelligent ppl, but the majority of albs are idiots. Just like a huge part of mid/hib are idiots, its the way of life and you have more ppl, you have more idiots. Kinda like america, just with outlaw or herbal as bush

Firstly I never QQ'd about shit. It's a game I dont waste my time QQ'ing over things it in or about it. What is all this 'we' business and 'you' <plural>. YOU didnt come up with any of that stuff so dont try take credit. 'You' Just happened to be there at the time and used what others had discovered for your self's, like whine on american boards about what class's were uber/ good etc. < Cus Dem Us guys know so much > And what the .... Theurgs uber dmg dealers. Sure they have a Spirit DD but I'd hardly call it Godly . I should know I played 1. Oh and the Moral of your Story is the point of the thread you numb nuts yet your still here whining about albs.

I have _never_ tried taking credit for anything like that, I just said that I was right, you werent as gimped as you tried making it out as. and just for reference, the first time i saw the ra-descriptions I looked at sos and thought "holy fuck, theyll chase down our support and theres nothing we can do to stop them" Now, please do tell me how long it took before albs started using sos offensively? Do you think it was a fucking coiincidence that all hibs&mids kept laughing at how you _only_ used sos to get the hell away? Back then all we had to do was hit the minstrel a couple of times, he'd sos and run to atk, leaving you behind.

I dont think anybody with the exception of Glottis has said that albs are Uberskilled but I have seen countless times hibs/mids saying how much better they are than albs and how skilled they are ye ;>. As for groupsetup's, ye the majority may not have changed but thats because it only involves 3 class's and also the majority of albs arent Serious RvR'ers, lots of pve and roleplayers etc, while mid and hib have a more RvR orientated people I would wager in % towards there total population. Why is this hmm ? because an RvR Orientated Person will research a class and realm before joining it so he is the best possible position to win and hib and mid come before alb I think ppl will agree ;>.

now, while i agree that there have been a crashing of egos in all realms, it is true that the majority of these have been in mid/hib claiming to be uberskilled just because they were using an overpowered class.
and sheesh, maybe im just naive, but i sincerely doubt that hc players research their realms alot before they start, but that could just be me, picking the realm i thought sounded the coolest.

Oh and in response to your 'saying'. "Everyone is ignorant only on different subjects" -Will Rogers

well ofcourse dimwit, noone are omniscient beings here(cept maybe pin )
your saying is basically "noone knows everything" which is pretty much stating the obvious, just with quote tags.

 

[Novamir]

first of all, WOW they actually realised that pryd albs do know how to play better and they started using spirit cabbies!

this group setup not hard to beat when fighting 8v8, i don't remember one fight with them in when i've been in a good group and lost. im sure aussie will 'k' me but it's true, there's always adds. and no i dont count playing in gimp setup with un toa'd bard as a good group xD

anyway, this kind of group with mages is what GoL have generally done? using the Warderzerg as a meatshield and taking all the RP.

the real secret about this setup is being able to lay a speedtrap every 1mins or so or whatever aussie said. this means that the speed3 is really not much of a problem since no bard will outmez this group when speedtrapped. still this setup will be owned by a 3-man assist train +light eld hib grp if they are good players. but at least theres finally a kinda good alb grp in emain again.

grats guys!

 

[Valgyr]

cleric
cleric
sorc (mind)
paladin (battlemaster)
friar (battlemaster)
reaver (banelord)
cabby (spirit)
theurgist/cabby/sorc

w000th

still like my setup better as u have more demezzers and thats really helpfull in a alb grp, if sorc is out all will be mezzed, and moc demzzing on a mincer will be sweet in NF so will AM 3

 

[Valgyr]

and i agree with nov on the spd trap thing if u run with spd 3 ull need to either camp or lay spd traps all the time else u will lose mezz fights to hibs and mids even worse then it is now with the insta

 

[gravedigger]

Rank Name Realm Points Last week Level Class Race
1 Stt 5,547,891 500,066 50 Sorcerer Saracen
2 Isti 1,720,152 393,915 50 Cabalist Saracen
3 Ceryseth 969,584 389,173 50 Cabalist Saracen
4 Xorty Nearsighter 532,464 269,281 50 Cabalist Inconnu
5 Grymulv Wilk 7,225,586 265,947 50 Sorcerer Briton
6 Dreams 4,062,948 264,736 50 Sorcerer Saracen
7 Outlaw 14,885,489 253,008 50 Theurgist Avalonian
8 Gogol 1,821,510 241,948 50 Sorcerer Inconnu
9 Zoyster PredatoR 12,723,153 229,558 50 Wizard
10 Tenta Vasconcelos 226,708 226,072 50 Cabalist
11 Elyniel 2,470,490 223,285 50 Cleric Highlander
12 Dest 1,568,018 219,363 50 Cleric Highlander
13 Eleash 1,980,423 212,998 50 Cabalist Briton
14 Saphri Danesbane 3,289,120 205,626 50Cabalist
15 Rnp 2,198,629 205,095 50 Sorcerer Inconnu
16 Serious SplitSpec 4,111,679 200,185 50 Sorcerer
17 Sculptor Claymaster 1,985,539 199,165 50 Cabalist 18 Gritzy 4,082,458 177,777 50 Sorcerer Avalonian
19 Definitely Maybe 1,478,370 177,198 50 Cleric
20 Regtur 5,630,661

first 20 last week 6 cabbys , 6 sorcs , few clerics to support them
do albs need more classes to be happy?

point being?

 

[Belomar]

point being?

You are unable to read plain English in addition to being simply dumb?

 

[Arnor]

You are unable to read plain English in addition to being simply dumb?

steamloller!

 

[Clipse]

first of all, WOW they actually realised that pryd albs do know how to play better and they started using spirit cabbies!

Fook Prydwen Albs no offense intended.

 

[Clipse]

the whole concept of Prydwen Albs being mature skilled players, and Excalibur albs being zerging fools, oh I'm sure u love it!!! Midds/Hibbs seem to really respect Prydwen Albs lol, so transparent, 90% haven't even seen them in action /sigh, what u watched one video ? u read a couple of threads ? or comments from someone? I bet if PE came to Excal, they would get their arses handed to them on a plate daily.

 

[flex]

first of all, WOW they actually realised that pryd albs do know how to play better and they started using spirit cabbies!

I knew this was coming, that's why i said about 8 or so pages back that excalibur has been using spirit cabs way before pryd.

 

[Arnor]

the whole concept of Prydwen Albs being mature skilled players, and Excalibur albs being zerging fools, oh I'm sure u love it!!! Midds/Hibbs seem to really respect Prydwen Albs lol, so transparent, 90% haven't even seen them in action /sigh, what u watched one video ? u read a couple of threads ? or comments from someone? I bet if PE came to Excal, they would get their arses handed to them on a plate daily.

well, with the "basis" you give, they could also be daoc demigods steamrolling everything in their wake. Until you have played with/against them you really cant say either way can you?

 

[Exinferis]

Ahh, yes, I forgot about him. The first spirit cabalist I know about, however, even before Exinfer, Sculptor, Ciclya and others, was Balthasar (with an S or a Z, I forgot) in SS. He was spirit while levelling up around the introduction of SI, but only made it to 48 before retiring (). He never indicated the strength of the debuff+LT combo in RvR, however, and seemed to rely on his pet exclusively.

forgot about me huh :<

remember when i was in DF and saw belthasar, and asked him how spirit was, he said it sucked cause he used 50% power to buff his pet. if he only knew the rest of teh powah