after 3 years albs at last balanced....

[Tootz]

This sort of Alb setup is nothing new, and its been tried before. Its just that the changes brought with ToA have benefitted casters much more than tanks and so groups like this are being used more successfuly in RvR.

The same thing has happened with Mids - 12 months ago you were lucky to find 1 or 2 groups with more than 1 spiritmaster in, it was all savages and healers. Now though, it would seem that Mids have finally figured out they have the best PBAOE group setup in the game; one class that can aoe mezz, aoe stun and heal, plus a pbaoe class with an intercepting pet.

Dark Age of Castalot has returned.

 

[Vindicator]

it takesmore time yes, but its no different then what we would have to do if some new setup came along. Its the way of the game, pity you didnt see this setup comming from pre-toa.

and nice to see aussie has not only felt something hacking at his ego, but also is unable to do anything about it cept trying to be "funny"

Ye Except all mids had to do was pl that toon and sort a temp out that was piss easy to do. Now you have to toa the shit out your charc and you said your self it takes longer to lvl up.

Also would you shut the fuck up saying that all who play alb must be clueless etc. You look like a fool saying something like that, I mean do you honestly believe that when a 'skilled' player was picking his realm thought hmmm nah albion doesnt feel uber enough, hib and mid sound better I think. The fact that you think that albs are clue-less just serves to show how clueless you really are your self. Oh and besides those in Glass house's shouldnt throw stones, espically if the 'stone' Thrower is a zerker or a chanter *cough*

To the Thread at hand? That group setup was doing months and months ago. It just never shined because there simply wasnt many spirit caba's or body sorc's about and few mind sorc's 2. Also without Toa it doesnt really become so Ace and as somebody said already everybody < alb, mid , hib> thought you really did need a minstrel and with an RA like SoS nobody dared leave them out.

 

[Xplo]

An alb group does good and they get flamed, shock and terror!

Remember kidz, its just a game!

 

[vintervargen]

best alb setup? my ass.

best leecher grp/players? hell yes.

 

[Aloca]

galoecjunior, me, adrianicus + others form the HW crew invented the mage debuff groups tbh Galoec was the only spirit cabalist who played enough tbh

the group running atm, Stt, aussie, sculptor and co is one of the hardest to beat atm.

dare i suggest though, that the reason they are doign so well in LWRP is that the best hib/mid groups arn't currently playign as much i.e. Nolby Pride

Nolby Pride playing? No.
Vengence? No
Llaw Arian? No
agree with you there, there is very few of the old good guild playing atm, tho a few new starters like Rage in hib do ok atm

 

[Hotrats]

As most people have already said, this group setup is nothing new, I even have vid footage of my cabalist in a caba/sorc group months before TOA.

Why is it good now?

1. BaoD got nerfed, we met hibs while in a caba/sorc group, they BaoD, debuff didn't even last long enough to effect the first nuke, no chance to win.

2. Melee got nerfed, mercs are nowhere near as good dmg dealers as they used to be cus of BG, Grapple etc.

3. Most hibs spec'd for pbae before and mids rarely used casters. Now we see lots of enemy ranged casters cus of TOA and therefore nearsight has become a very needed spell in a good rvr group.

4. As already said TOA has boosted casters, they are way more feasible than before.


In NF this group will absolutely own no doubt but until then a hib group with GP should beat them.


3 caba 3 sorc is also way too much overkill, swap out for a friar at least. I would prolly also take at least 1 det class

 

[Loxleyhood]

Are any good guilds at all playing?

 

[Meduza]

spot Arnor

Im more shocked u knew about such a webbie...

 

[etcetra]

Have those classes even changed since ToA made casters better? But its nice to see all the albs whining about how you need loads of different classes to make a good group were completely right.

But its interesting to see that 7 months after anything that affected those classes in a positive way, albs are all of a sudden balanced. And here we were all thinking it was the players and/or groupsetups that made the difference, LOL how wrong we were

Spot on mate.

 

[etcetra]

Weird how everyone and their brother claims the have run 3cabby/3 sorc/2 cleric groups for ages now.. Gotta laugh at you beaches!

Btw, Arnor is spot on with everything hes saying here. Can't you just see that albs?

 

[Aussie]

less tankbased groups thats the only reason.

 

[Krane]

The setup is indeed not bad..far from perfect tough.

We all saw how they play from the movies also..i dont c why brag about this..

That grp plays 6+hours a day together....hell stt was in emain non stop from 12:00 last week..not hard to make that kind of rps..

They die like a butterfly if they loose mezz..which is kinda like all the time with a decent bard.

Nothing special, only 1-2 good players there (stt and isti whoever he is), rest are just leeching off them..

Cud be played so much better...

Credits to stt tough..500k/week is a nice achievement =) (now go out to the sun m8)

 

[Jimmi]

so fotm

 

[Medde]

3caba/3sorcs grp rox because they leech off zerg / roam 2fg if they loose / play 24/7 and get 500k rp lw when not a single guild is active? :O

 

[Belomar]

galoecjunior, me, adrianicus + others form the HW crew invented the mage debuff groups tbh Galoec was the only spirit cabalist who played enough tbh

Eh, right. I'm not going to go into all this pissing contest about who started debuff groups first. I will say, however, that I respecced to spirit last summer. Ciclya had respecced spirit some month before me, as had Tilda (although she was not very active with her Cabalist after that). Galoec was matter at the time, and kept asking me my experiences with my new spec, before finally respeccing. In my day, I was reasonably active, and we had some really uber debuff group sessions within SS (with Pin doing the CC job).

 

[flex]

3caba/3sorcs grp rox because they leech off zerg / roam 2fg if they loose / play 24/7 and get 500k rp lw when not a single guild is active? :O

all the times i grouped with stt we ran 1 fg, ran bolg alot, if we had followers allways told them to pls not follow us and if emain was to zergy we went to farm the zerg in odin again as 1fg.

You can say whatever u want, i was in the group and i don't care for your opinions enough to lie about it

 

[Medde]

why would i lie, last time i rvrd i saw stts grp at 3 am with another fg 5s behind him, and a 3rd grp adding every single time we fought em. i remember it cos garbas grp ran into em aswell and QQing about it on irc

its not against the law to roam as 2fg, i dont blame u for doing it either since both garbas grp and my random grpofr0x killed stts 8vs8. whats the point to go out and get chainfarmed huh

 

[katt!]

They die like a butterfly if they loose mezz..which is kinda like all the time with a decent bard.

omg! krane is right about something.

they = instadead when they get jumped. if they jump someone they can kill half the group before they can get it demezzed. a bit like a suicidebomber osv.

 

[Vasconcelos]

why would i lie, last time i rvrd i saw stts grp at 3 am with another fg 5s behind him, and a 3rd grp adding every single time we fought em. i remember it cos garbas grp ran into em aswell and QQing about it on irc

Im pretty sure you or sum1 or your guildies who have played in alb with AD have experienced the same situation: 3am only 1 decent alb fg in emain n loads of randoms, try to lose the tail w/o sprint+end chant.


Ive only played with stt grp 2 or 3 times but 1 thing i can tell u for sure, caby/sorc grp its much more funny than anything ive experienced since 22Feb04, even despite its far from being opted. Not like you need much skill to kill this grp with a mid/hib grp with an inch of brain n sense of grp balance, tbh i would be even ashamed if i lose to that setup as a mid/hib rvr guild.

 

[Medde]

Im pretty sure you or sum1 or your guildies who have played in alb with AD have experienced the same situation: 3am only 1 decent alb fg in emain n loads of randoms, try to lose the tail w/o sprint+end chant.

Hmm not really, if a grp follows me i tell em to fo, and they do. Same when i played some with AD. Stt has been running in 2fg alot, usually after being killed by a decent fg, i dont blame him, but i wouldnt say that i am a r0xstar either.

Anyway, its nice to see that alb is starting to learn how to make decent grps post-toa.

 

[Vasconcelos]

Hmm not really, if a grp follows me i tell em to fo, and they do. Same when i played some with AD. Stt has been running in 2fg alot, usually after being killed by a decent fg, i dont blame him, but i wouldnt say that i am a r0xstar either.

Anyway, its nice to see that alb is starting to learn how to make decent grps post-toa.

Stt n Aussie are allways the 1st ones to tell tail to FO, something different its to lose em when u run at caster speed without end chant n they use rr2 minstrel in their necro/armsmen grps

 

[serious]

Hmm not really, if a grp follows me i tell em to fo, and they do. Same when i played some with AD. Stt has been running in 2fg alot, usually after being killed by a decent fg, i dont blame him, but i wouldnt say that i am a r0xstar either.

Anyway, its nice to see that alb is starting to learn how to make decent grps post-toa.

omg medde ..if you yourself read this back..dont you think you are one super l33t kiddy?
i also have been in this grp alot..and we only ..and might i stress ONLY run with 2 grps if we get zerged by BC/or random mids..or TD/random hibs more then 4-5 times in a row. and even then ..the minute we see loose mid/hib grps around we break the 2 grps up.

even tonight we get zerged by 2 grp of mid or 2 grp of hib ..and we keep playing 1 grp..

sigh why i bother..guys like you and vinter (who in the hell is that dude anyway) are too much too l33t to speak back too.

S.

 

[Phule_Gubben]

HINT!

I guess this means we'll have less albs in uppland from now on.

 

[gia]

Of course they get a lot of rps, it's the ultimate add group, just follow the cg like they always do. When they run into a fight with 6 casters nuking your support while you're busy killing someone else it's kind of a pain in the ass. Also in a zerg the group with most casters = most damage = gets the biggest share of rp.

 

[Vasconcelos]

Of course they get a lot of rps, it's the ultimate add group, just follow the cg like they always do.

Lol! Priceless, i guess you have never ever paid attention to /as /c while being in emain

 

[Medde]

even tonight we get zerged by 2 grp of mid or 2 grp of hib ..and we keep playing 1 grp..

Good for you!
However, the weeks before today i've killed stts grp several time as fg vs fg and they've come back as roaming 2fg. And not blaming them either like i said since they couldnt win.

And u have to take the internet boards less serious even tho i enjoyed the l33ttalk whine, not aussieclass but still decent!

 

[judas]

omg medde ..if you yourself read this back..dont you think you are one super l33t kiddy?
i also have been in this grp alot..and we only ..and might i stress ONLY run with 2 grps if we get zerged by BC/or random mids..or TD/random hibs more then 4-5 times in a row. and even then ..the minute we see loose mid/hib grps around we break the 2 grps up.

even tonight we get zerged by 2 grp of mid or 2 grp of hib ..and we keep playing 1 grp..

sigh why i bother..guys like you and vinter (who in the hell is that dude anyway) are too much too l33t to speak back too.

S.

are you serious?

 

[gia]

Lol! Priceless, i guess you have never ever paid attention to /as /c while being in emain

There is a VERY big difference between getting maybe 1 info each hour on /as and running a full CG all day long like albs do. Hibs never have a regular cg, if they ever start one (which i don't see often) usually noone of my group is in it.

You should try seeing the effects of it, like fighting 1 alb group at lake or levians (not some zerg place like amg) and after 1 minute another group comes, then another, then another... this happens 24/7 if there's more than 1-2 alb groups out.

 

[Bhalage]

There is a VERY big difference between getting maybe 1 info each hour on /as and running a full CG all day long like albs do. Hibs never have a regular cg, if they ever start one (which i don't see often) usually noone of my group is in it.

You should try seeing the effects of it, like fighting 1 alb group at lake or levians (not some zerg place like amg) and after 1 minute another group comes, then another, then another... this happens 24/7 if there's more than 1-2 alb groups out.

/agree tbh same in mid thou /AS getting more and more active telling rvr info but still its far from a organized BG or CG for emainers where u can just /C fg alb here and there ..and all grps head for the position..

there is difference

 

[Vasconcelos]

There is a VERY big difference between getting maybe 1 info each hour on /as and running a full CG all day long like albs do. Hibs never have a regular cg, if they ever start one (which i don't see often) usually noone of my group is in it.

You should try seeing the effects of it, like fighting 1 alb group at lake or levians (not some zerg place like amg) and after 1 minute another group comes, then another, then another... this happens 24/7 if there's more than 1-2 alb groups out.

I know the story m8, just look at wot ur own realm m8s do, coz the same old works aswell every nite with hibs, u see TD inc amg, 10secs l8r randoms, 10sec l8r high rr grp, followed by TdMM etc....

Welcome to Excalibur dude