after 3 years albs at last balanced....

Light

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such good news for the other 9 classes of albion huh
 

Arnor

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Filip said:
you're just beening stupid again arnor... try to imagine 3 ppl .... each get a puzzle to solve ... 2 of em is asked to solve 2+2 = ? .... the last guy is asked to tell the meaning of life ...

then the 2 first taunt the last guy why he didnt solve his puzzle in less than 10 sec ......

understand or i need make it more simple for you ?



AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHA

so you are actually trying to say that just _trying_ to group up 3 sorcs, 3 cabbies and 2 clerics was hard?

correct me if im wrong, but this IS what your saying?

and while im the first to agree that this setup hasnt been _as_ viable as it is now for 3 years, it has been very good, ask TB they did very good with castergroup that was similarish.

but yes, i agree it must be hard not to have the yanks to scream "omg savages are overpowered!!!" "omg chanters and elds are overpowered" about your realm, i see now that you had no role-models to look to for advice.

meaning of life is 42 fyi :p
 

Filip

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Angara said:
lol Filip, read the post made by the proud Albs.
I love it that you got a nice setup, seriously...but dont go and talk shit that other realms never suggested it. Its your realm, you guys are suppose to know how it works, not mids or hibs (at least, for me, never played other realms seriously)

Yes, toa gave a boost, but...toa is here for a while and tbh, the setup with caba's/sorc's was rarely to be seen in emain.

Again, i am really happy for you guys :)

that the group set up was nice has been know for a while ... but the effect of full toa on it took some time to get effect ...


allso you wont see it a lot ... 3 class out of all the alb class out of the 14 can be used...

i got a toa'ed theurg which is a nice caster but not the fotm this patch (it was a few patch's ago) to change this into a toa'ed cabby/sorc/cleric would seriously hinder my RL unless i would just do pve for the next 6 months....

so great that albs got a nice group now ... but it wont change much but for a the ppl who got 1 of those 3 class's
 

Arnor

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Light said:
such good news for the other 9 classes of albion huh


welcome to midgard post 1.62, our hearts flow with the pity you guys showed us then :)
 

Filip

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Arnor said:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHA

so you are actually trying to say that just _trying_ to group up 3 sorcs, 3 cabbies and 2 clerics was hard?

correct me if im wrong, but this IS what your saying?

and while im the first to agree that this setup hasnt been _as_ viable as it is now for 3 years, it has been very good, ask TB they did very good with castergroup that was similarish.

but yes, i agree it must be hard not to have the yanks to scream "omg savages are overpowered!!!" "omg chanters and elds are overpowered" about your realm, i see now that you had no role-models to look to for advice.

meaning of life is 42 fyi :p

getting full toa takes some time unless you dont do anything else than play daoc ... and about the 1.62 for middies .. getting alvl 50 for middi with SM+ paboe stun is 2 days ? ?

how much play time for a toa'ed sorc or cabby you think ?
 

Arnor

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Filip said:
that the group set up was nice has been know for a while ... but the effect of full toa on it took some time to get effect ...

ye m8r, how is it having a brain on 7month delay? (you can mail me the answer in 7months when you get it ;) )

allso you wont see it a lot ... 3 class out of all the alb class out of the 14 can be used...
You also didnt see 3x savage/3xhealer1xshammy&skald groups in midgard either post 1.62 (or 4x savage or healer)

i got a toa'ed theurg which is a nice caster but not the fotm this patch (it was a few patch's ago) to change this into a toa'ed cabby/sorc/cleric would seriously hinder my RL unless i would just do pve for the next 6 months....
welcome to midgard&hib in the fotm-periods, as i said earlier, our hearts well with the pity you showed us

so great that albs got a nice group now ... but it wont change much but for a the ppl who got 1 of those 3 class's

again, pity, heart, overflow
 

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Stt's group is very nice indeed.
When they have a spot and rp pl me I luve them all!
But it is not some wtfpwn all group. Stt does well cause he puts in a lot of time and often wins the mezz game.
While a debuff group is nice, it is nothing a hib group could not do either. I bet they do not even have to debuff to get that kind of damage.
It is also a lot less forgiving of mistakes, but Albs are used to that.
Regards, Glottis
 

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Glottis said:
Stt's group is very nice indeed.
When they have a spot and rp pl me I luve them all!
But it is not some wtfpwn all group. Stt does well cause he puts in a lot of time and often wins the mezz game.
While a debuff group is nice, it is nothing a hib group could not do either. I bet they do not even have to debuff to get that kind of damage.
It is also a lot less forgiving of mistakes, but Albs are used to that.
Regards, Glottis

WTF glottis u still playing ^^
 

Eluvia

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3 sorcs 3 cabbies 2 clerics is a nice setup fo killing the standard hib hybrids, however not sure how you would perform vs an old style savage grp or a well co-ordinated fg of stealthers :p
 

flex

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this is funny

actually, we were one of the first servers to run caby/sorc groups. Started about 5-6 months ago. i remember doing some hib rvr in prydwen and i asked if albion ran sorc/caby groups, they never heard of them.

There are some differences with todays caby/sorc group tho. Back then, minstrells & theurgs were considered a must-have for albs groups, hibs & mids called the albs who said they were not necessary stupid until very recently. Now it is clear that a sorc & caby > a theurg + mincer in those setups.

Second, The few active spirit cabys all specced for 50% spirit debuff. Only about 2 months ago eleash respecced to 3-spec for the 45% nearsight, and only very recently alot of other cabys followed him. The nearsights makes this group much better then the same kind of groups a few months ago.

So imo, credit should go to eleash who teached the value of nearsight to albion & stt for running those setups the last 4 months :)
 

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flex said:
So imo, credit should go to eleash who teached the value of nearsight to albion & stt for running those setups the last 4 months :)

Ahem, who started the mincer-less groups ? :D
 

Aeicaan

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its not hard to top rp lastweek if u add and zerg 24/7
and stop the qq about albs being underdog, its just the players who suck tbh
zoyster grouppuring 24/7 with vp, clerics using bof When sos (if mincer in grp) minstrel using sos when he is the only one alive to get back to apk and more fucked up stuff that even a 4 year old kid could learn after playing 1 month...
 

Light

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still lwrp is really more of an indicator of time spent in rvr than how effective a setup is

only the grp itself and the enemies fought can really comment on this
 

Arnor

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Light said:
still lwrp is really more of an indicator of time spent in rvr than how effective a setup is

only the grp itself and the enemies fought can really comment on this


yes ofc, but since forever we've both been hearing and kept perpetuating the argument that it was impossible for albs to get 500k+ lwrp.
 

[NO]Subedai

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Aeicaan said:
its not hard to top rp lastweek if u add and zerg 24/7
and stop the qq about albs being underdog, its just the players who suck tbh
zoyster grouppuring 24/7 with vp, clerics using bof When sos (if mincer in grp) minstrel using sos when he is the only one alive to get back to apk and more fucked up stuff that even a 4 year old kid could learn after playing 1 month...

hibs who gp mes just to be aoe stunned 0.5s later, many hibs are noobs also u know :)

oh and i see u must have such skillsz, i mean u are like specced for grapple m8!!

ml8 warden=bg+grapple
ml4 bm for grapple
ml4 hero for grapple

Such Skill!!! :worthy:
 

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its a nice setup but kinda new so most of the hib and mid grps outthere got hard time handling 6 casters, this will change very soon imo, enjoy it as long as you can :> (would run 4 tank grps again, but that would be suicide against grappler hibs :<)

ps.: and yes 6 casters adding on any fight is deadly :>
 

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dunno about the rest of you gimps but i was in 6 mage caster groups well before TOA with alliance mates...
 

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Sorry to spoil the happiness but the setup dies horribily against something with 2 tanks with decent rrs n banelord and 1 interrupter with an inch of brain.
 

Yadeniel

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I think my caby mazdam must be in 21 or so :D but i dotn have guild, so i cant check the lwrps :_(
 

Light

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Arnor said:
yes ofc, but since forever we've both been hearing and kept perpetuating the argument that it was impossible for albs to get 500k+ lwrp.

don't jump the gun, only 1 alb stt has the magic 500k+ there ;)

with the next 2 below 400, and next 2 below 300

indicates more time spent rvr than the wtfpwnage as seen by hib/mid grps


still it is good going but doesnt mean its albs magic rvr grp, stt used to get close to those rps on his inf
 

Filip

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arnor you only show your self as a fool when you ignore what i post about mids beening able to PL a savage to lvl 50 in 2 days in malmøhus with SM's and pbaoe stun in 1.62.. getting a new RvR toon now is just to mindlessly boring and time consuming..


but i guess you are 1 of the 2+2= ? guys...
 

Arnor

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Filip said:
arnor you only show your self as a fool when you ignore what i post about mids beening able to PL a savage to lvl 50 in 2 days in malmøhus with SM's and pbaoe stun in 1.62.. getting a new RvR toon now is just to mindlessly boring and time consuming..


but i guess you are 1 of the 2+2= ? guys...


it takesmore time yes, but its no different then what we would have to do if some new setup came along. Its the way of the game, pity you didnt see this setup comming from pre-toa.

and nice to see aussie has not only felt something hacking at his ego, but also is unable to do anything about it cept trying to be "funny"
 

Adrianicus

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yo chilly

i remember doing this setup years ago, was just so hard to get the group together :(

giv old galeocjunior back :(
 

Fedaykin

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galoecjunior, me, adrianicus + others form the HW crew invented the mage debuff groups tbh :p Galoec was the only spirit cabalist who played enough tbh

the group running atm, Stt, aussie, sculptor and co is one of the hardest to beat atm.

dare i suggest though, that the reason they are doign so well in LWRP is that the best hib/mid groups arn't currently playign as much i.e. Nolby Pride
 

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