About the 2 Relic raids i KINDA leaded

[Iorlas]

First we get ladonna then feniar both strongly pointing out the population difference..... Ahh both from WR... hmmm do i sense pre justifying and alarm clock raid?? Mids messed up at relic gates.. should not have tried to charge albs when the hibs hit us from behind.
Herjulf... you are living in cloud cookoo land your rantings are a constant source of amusement to me.. keep up the good work. :wub:

 

[Dathcald]

Underdogs?

Hib yes, Mid and Alb numbers are comparable. Mids aren't underdogs - complacent, disorganised, living in the past = all yes. But in no way, shape or form are you underdogs. You had more bodies in ygg to defend the relic than the albs had attacking - you were just out manouvered.

Gone is the day when the biggest alarmclock wins - Ardamel: its time to retire.

Similar numbers.... outmanouvered? Where? At the relic gate when the ground shook under your boots?

 

[Fana]

Dunno how so many albs can say mids screwed up tbh - many of us worked our fooking asses off for days on end to defend our frontier, but we simply arent enough to win these wars of attrition. Even when we try to retake our own keeps/towers at late night they are still defended by double our numbers, with greater range. Are we supposed to stop sleeping all togheter to even out the population imbalances?

Im sure Tappi did a splendid job, but for the love of god dont say mids are lacking in effort, because when you do your insulting all the mids that have been working hard to try to keep our relics.

 

[Vaas Harkonnen]

albs r cool, almost every alb realm on all servers have the most relics so they r cool and smart and organized etc........
and mature ppl play alb.
and all alb realms had to play with 0 relics (or was it only exc alb?) for some time. so it is justified that other realms have 0 relics in nf.

 

[Elewyth]

You fucked the server because no other realm has enough numbers to oppose you not because of any good team working.
I won't say grats or well done because it's not really deserved, your getting the relics was largely inevitable and a factor of having people not skill or tactics or organisation.

ho ho..... sure thing einstein.. there was 1 leader in the BG.. that was tappi.. what he said to do we did... so hows that not tactics or organisation? your just digging yourself a hole ot whine from... get over it and stop blaming anything but yourself.

 

[Flimgoblin]

I said it in the other whine thread but it bears repeating...

when did a 40% to 34% split ( a difference of 15%) become 3 to 1?

did 2/3 of midgard quit before we took the relics?

 

[Elewyth]

tbh all the whining will stop when mids and Hibs dbl team us now.. and tbh im looking forward to fighting in my own frontier now... just dont expect us NOT to whine at you cos thats all youve done since day 1.... QQ all of you tbh.. shut the fuck up and play the game.. if you dont like it piss off.

 

[Nebel]

NF whisper to any alb : "Hey, mistar murmidon. Why you sitting here, inside your realm?" "Because i have a low rank and cant fight with stronger enemy :/" - answering an alb. "But hey!" - continue NF - "You dont need a high RR to fight a stronger enemy! Just bring other murmidons all together. ... Murmi's face become brighter: "You damn right, mr. NF!!! I need nothing to bring my realmmates alltogether...

Tbh... thats EXACTLY the conversation i imagine takin place when Kenwolf, Feinar and Macmep were sitting on the pad in OF... or nowadays when camping docks.

Numbers >> realm rank.

U should take that in your sig.

 

[Urme the Legend]

1. Big Salute to Ardamel and Ladonna primary for leading the Mid defence this weekend. I think Ardamel played 14 hours+ on Saturday and at least 12 hours on sunday? Without them we would have lost the relics earlier.

2. Aussie, albion had a larger force just admit it. Around 18.00cet I did a /bg count and it was 109 mids in it when you attacked Glenlock. Though a /bg who showed that alot of mids were in either housing, TOA or Svasud. At the same time you attacked Glenlock with 140, dunno how many you had in the BG but probably close to 200. So who is the retard now? Those numbers are a fact.

3. Defending the realm was fun the first few days, even though we got beaten at nottmoor, bledmeer, blendrake cause of more enemies than defenders. But it gets boring after a few days when albs outnumber you all the times.

4. I'm happy that you got the relic, now you can play in Midgard 24/7 and I don't have to care anymore.

5. Gratz.

6. Aussie, go back to school and finish high school... or at least the Math courses.

 

[Calo]

Yeah, because if diddums savage/chanter isn't getting his extra 20% damage, he can't compete.

Mids will do what they did last time they lost their security blanket, and do a 150-man alarmclock raid. And then complain because they can't bring 150 to defend in the frontier in primetime. Hibs, I suspect, will take it on the chin and come back with a real raid.

Didn't know u could actually lower yourself to that bullshit. Seriously thought u had more brain then that but looks like ur full of shit and know nothing bout midgard and think everybody is the same.

Lets not forget it was ALBION who started ac raids so its YOUR fault.

 

[Draylor]

Think its more a case of broken spirits, and the feeling of pointlessness settling in

Probably, but Mids were also suffering from levels of disorganisation previously only common among Albs.

At the relic temple last night there probably werent more than around 100 or so Mids inside it trying to defend at any 1 time.

Every couple of mins yet another Mid guild group would come along with little/no intention of helping to defend, just trying to farm RPs. Some of them earned a few, some didnt, but none of them did anything at all to help.

If theyd actually been with the main group of defenders, with a few siege weapons, things might have been different.

 

[Phule_Gubben]

[21:06] <kwidz> 187 albs in yggdr
[21:06] <kwidz> how many mids?
[21:08] <Rad^> 215

Check first, think second, post third.

random mid did a /who all = 215

 

[Sendraks]

ho ho..... sure thing einstein.. there was 1 leader in the BG.. that was tappi.. what he said to do we did... so hows that not tactics or organisation? your just digging yourself a hole ot whine from... get over it and stop blaming anything but yourself.

Too damn right mate.

While Albs did field the larger force yesterday, it wasn't especially massive and something the Mids could've easily fielded a defensive force of the same size to respond to. But they ddin't. Either because the people weren't online, or didn't want to come help the players dedicated to defending their frontier, who can say? But the Mids who did defend did a sterling job and held out for a damn long time.

Tactically speaking, as Old. Eleywth has observed, anyone in the cg or Bg will have noted how well organised the albs were.

We need 2fgs at glen, bam and there were 2fgs there.
We need that tower retakng, bam, 2fgs got on said tower.
Can someone go get a warboat please, bam 2fgs got a boat.
Someone is attacking berks, how many, 1fgm, get some people on it, bam, 1fga inc to berks.
We've lost tower 4 at Bled. We'll go get it back. Bam, 2fga went and got it back.

Thats how it was all day. People in constant communication, immediately following Tappi's orders or responding to updates from others.

I've not seen cgs or bgs of such quality for a very long time. Certainly they were not evident in OF, when the LEET crowd wouldn't share info with the masses so they could farm more RPs. No for once we have an Alb community thats listening and co-operating.

If it wasn't for that, Mids would've farmed us, plain and simple.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Too damn right mate.

While Albs did field the larger force yesterday, it wasn't especially massive and something the Mids could've easily fielded a defensive force of the same size to respond to. But they ddin't. Either because the people weren't online, or didn't want to come help the players dedicated to defending their frontier, who can say? But the Mids who did defend did a sterling job and held out for a damn long time.

Tactically speaking, as Old. Eleywth has observed, anyone in the cg or Bg will have noted how well organised the albs were.

We need 2fgs at glen, bam and there were 2fgs there.
We need that tower retakng, bam, 2fgs got on said tower.
Can someone go get a warboat please, bam 2fgs got a boat.
Someone is attacking berks, how many, 1fgm, get some people on it, bam, 1fga inc to berks.
We've lost tower 4 at Bled. We'll go get it back. Bam, 2fga went and got it back.

Thats how it was all day. People in constant communication, immediately following Tappi's orders or responding to updates from others.

I've not seen cgs or bgs of such quality for a very long time. Certainly they were not evident in OF, when the LEET crowd wouldn't share info with the masses so they could farm more RPs. No for once we have an Alb community thats listening and co-operating.

If it wasn't for that, Mids would've farmed us, plain and simple.

Damn right - was a pleasure to be there. Unfortunately I didn't make it to the final relic assault, but I was watching the cg intently - and the organisation was evident. Tappi was co-ordinating RA timers and groups, where was being hit and when, movement etc.

This was a fine example of a NF attack - i won't call them raids anymore. Raids were OF, where the idea was to get in, hit fast and get out before an enemy could respond - blitzkreig tactics if you like. They don't work anymore - you have to lead and deploy a force, secure your foothaold, defend your supply chain, knock out fortifications and siege machinery. Basically everything I expected to be in the game all those years ago when i bought it.

You'll bounce back mids - you have the numbers and the organisation. Learn from the experience and cu soon in hadrians.

 

[daoc_xianghua]

This is mostly true, the the thing you forget is that Albion always has had numbers, and this often countered against the 20% mele and power bonuses.

Now Albion will have numbers, 20% mele, (soon) 20% magic bonus, how can mid and hib compete?

mhhhh...

maybe....



try skillz?

 

[Tiztla]

lol u managed to live withouth relic, yes it is called zerging, but fair enough grats to relics, can i see atleast 1 solo under rr5 albion stealther?

 

[Feinar]

Tbh... thats EXACTLY the conversation i imagine takin place when Kenwolf, Feinar and Macmep were sitting on the pad in OF... or nowadays when camping docks.

Aha. I see no difference in OF and NF tbh, when alb stealthers soloing in big groups, or infront (inback?) of zerg. So to not be hypocrite, like most of alb st population, i am proudly playing in group. You think, i am care, was i killed by 16 grouped or ungrouped scouts? And we not bring 8 ppl to camp docks as some albs do. Me and Ken - only 2 (and tell me, how often we do it? 2-3 times from NF release? yeaaah, we strong dock campers). Mac dont like it. Another words, we see a new legend about us.

U should take that in your sig.

You can do it too, why not? Or you deny it?

PS: if you wanna whine about us more - find one of Stony's topics and do it there.

 

[noaim]

While Albs did field the larger force yesterday, it wasn't especially massive and something the Mids could've easily fielded a defensive force of the same size to respond to. But they ddin't.

Yes, we could have easily gotten the same numbers, but we decided not to. There was noone asking more mids to help, since if we had done, we would easily have gotten the same number, and probably twice your number. Easily. We just preferred to let albs have Nottmoor and Bledmeer for almost a week, since if we had decided to take em back, we could easily have gotten people to do it, but its fun to try to retake keeps while outnumbered, especially for 10+ hours/day, 5 days in a row.

 

[Sendraks]

Noaim - on more than one occasion since NF came out I've watched Albs get trampled under a superior number of Mids.

 

[Blitzing]

yes ofc we can run the albs over, but only to a certain point, where we cant gather more people than them, even hips can overun albs, if the albs are few enough

 

[Urme the Legend]

Noaim - on more than one occasion since NF came out I've watched Albs get trampled under a superior number of Mids.

I have seen Mids get trampled under a superior number of Albs 100 times this weekend only... right your point was?

It's funny to see all albs trying to deny that they got a larger zerg then Midgard and Hibernia.. (together)...

 

[Clipse]

funny to see "the Legend" whining every 5 mins.

 

[Cracked]

Funny to see Alb's who think they have skills.

 

[Feinar]

funny to see "the Legend" whining every 5 mins.

Funny to see how in realm vs. realm discussion albs still trying to point to different guilds or, even, persons ^^

 

[Blitzing]

i think its more funny to see how this game has changed into dark age of whine alot, its an EXSTREME amount of whine that has come to freddys, and its from all parts, it is kind of pathetic to see, its a bit like kindergarden. and yes now alot of people will start to say, well they didn whine, and it was albs, or mids or hips that did it, and they whine all the time, bla bla bla bla. this game would be so much more peacefull if we didn have a forum, where we had to go every time, some whent 2vs1 on you, or zerged, or got relics, primetime or no primetime. allways trying to justify that is was wrong what ever they did. its sick, and im sure people will just say, well if you cant handle the kids whine, just leave the game. well im sure i will, just not untill wow comes out

 

[noaim]

Noaim - on more than one occasion since NF came out I've watched Albs get trampled under a superior number of Mids.

It doesnt really matter in the long run if a part of the alb-zerg that lost the mainzerg gets run over by a superior number of mids a few times tho, now does it?

If we could easily gather 200 people, we would, if we cant, its not easy, and if it aint easy, you cant say we can do it easily. Its very simple.

 

[Feinar]

i think its more funny to see how this game has changed into dark age of whine alot, its an EXSTREME amount of whine that has come to freddys, and its from all parts, it is kind of pathetic to see, its a bit like kindergarden. and yes now alot of people will start to say, well they didn whine, and it was albs, or mids or hips that did it, and they whine all the time, bla bla bla bla. this game would be so much more peacefull if we didn have a forum, where we had to go every time, some when 2vs1 on you, or zerged, or got relics, primetime or no primetime. allways trying to justify that is was wrong what ever they did. its sick, and im sure people will just say, well if you cant handle the kids whine, just leave the game. well im sure i will, just not untill wow comes out

Golden words btw ^^

 

[Urme the Legend]

funny to see "the Legend" whining every 5 mins.

I just hope Midgard can gather a force of 150 people and attack albion 24/7 this week/weekend.. and you will see your defence will get weaker since people don't have the strength to defend, defend, defend, defend for a week.

But then again, that will probably never happen.. cause albion will always outzerg us

 

[Flimgoblin]

I just hope Midgard can gather a force of 150 people and attack albion 24/7 this week/weekend.. and you will see your defence will get weaker since people don't have the strength to defend, defend, defend, defend for a week.

But then again, that will probably never happen.. cause albion will always outzerg us

40% to 34% it's not 3 times your numbers.

Yes we outnumber you, but you can field something close to what we have - if you are facing 3 to 1 odds then you only have yourselves (and fatigue) to blame.

Incidentally NF opens up a whole load of strategy - you can try to split zergs up you know....

attack a homeland keep to draw them out (or if they don't draw out to cut their port chain).

Hit towers at one keep and send the rest of your forces to another.

This all requires organisation though - a leader and people willing to listen.

Not saying that suddenly attacking two different towers is gonna give you relics back but there's room for a bit of thinking in NF.

 

[Aussie]

I just hope Midgard can gather a force of 150 people and attack albion 24/7 this week/weekend..

you couldn't even take a keep if albs let the doors open