A contructive apprasel of Alb RVR performance post 1.60

[Karlo]

I dont know your character sharp but im going to guess...

Enchanter?

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by Karlo
how so?

-bof, ablative chant, AF chant if pally twists = negates melee, which negates mids overpowered zerkers.

-hibs dont got any = we get owned always by zerkers.

-hibs got baod and generally best magic resists of 3 realms which will beat caster heavy grps if its up, which is mainly albs. (however its a chanter u have to kill to get rid of this, not a healer with 27% absorb and 2 instant heals - cleric)

that's kinda simplified but i think its what loff was getting at.

 

[AbPoon]

FC run in 1fg?

Only before they die by even numbers then bring 2fg and anyone else who will belive they died to 8 fg's

Brethren are good but v rare 1fg, main Alb grp youll find in 1fg is BF who are without doubt the best Alb rvr guild bar none.

Ahh yeah you'll sometimes find powahhhh's group running in 1fg but they suck quite frankly.

 

[Aussie-]

30sec GodmodexDDD

anyway, Offence>>>>>>> Defence
Everyone 'runs' from chanters , Everyone 'runs' from zerks, dunno from which alb class i should be scared.

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by Karlo
I dont know your character sharp but im going to guess...

Enchanter?

i knew elds and ments would soon be almost useless bc of the resists so i rolled a chanter bc they ahd the ebst stuff for rvr, call me fotm or whatever, see if i care :>

 

[Vasconcelos]

Originally posted by Sharp Thing
i knew elds and ments would soon be almost useless bc of the resists so i rolled a chanter bc they ahd the ebst stuff for rvr, call me fotm or whatever, see if i care :>

AH! And do u think we care anything if a FoTM chanter calls us "lame zergers"?? sigh...

 

[soth-zorena]

Originally posted by Novamir
perfect recovery (30min)




rofl!!!!!!!!!!

 

[old.[BF]MaD]

Originally posted by Aussie-
30sec GodmodexDDD

anyway, Offence>>>>>>> Defence
Everyone 'runs' from chanters , Everyone 'runs' from zerks, dunno from which alb class i should be scared.

ME !!!!!!!!!8!8888!!!!!

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by Aussie-
30sec GodmodexDDD

anyway, Offence>>>>>>> Defence
Everyone 'runs' from chanters , Everyone 'runs' from zerks, dunno from which alb class i should be scared.

dem ninjawannabe friars ;x

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by Vasconcelos
AH! And do u think we care anything if a FoTM chanter calls us "lame zergers"?? sigh...

no, but theres a bit off hope that might make u stop zerging, but who am i kidding, you're albs :|

 

[Vasconcelos]

Originally posted by Sharp Thing
no, but theres a bit off hope that might make u stop zerging, but who am i kidding, you're albs :|

Yer yer, we got your point, you are a FoTM player who never zerg, use elite tactics n are more skillfull than any alb...

 

[Sharp Thing]

Originally posted by Vasconcelos
Yer yer, we got your point, you are a FoTM player who never zerg, use elite tactics n are more skillfull than any alb...

yes, yes i am

 

[censi]

nice discussion, and it didnt even turn into a flame thread.

some good points.

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by Aussie-
30sec GodmodexDDD

anyway, Offence>>>>>>> Defence
Everyone 'runs' from chanters , Everyone 'runs' from zerks, dunno from which alb class i should be scared.

99% of the time, u run from magmatic when he moc's if baod is up then jsut arserape him :x, but thats the same for zerkers with BOF up. Oh, and run from scouts, they r teh scary, 1 almost hit me thru 3sec pbt other day!!! nerf

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by Sharp Thing
yes, yes i am

I think there might be 1 or 2 albs who are more skillful tbh...but no more...and not even sure there is that.

 

[Aule Valar]

everytime we go out in 1fg (yes this does happen with gol a lot, takes a while to get 2nd grp going) we always seem to run into 2fg rg, np, vgn or cf+adds and get zerged by them and yet you wonder why we roam in 2fg

 

[StormriderX]

Originally posted by Karlo
how so?

your main tanks don't wear slash weak armor for a start and bof ofc

 

[Kagato.]

You win some you lose some, had a randomely put together fg in odins last night and we beat a fg of hibs with no casualties at all. Yet people insist on comparing things with 'balanced rvr guild groups'.

Things are as balanced as there ever going to be, I don't think the sorc/minstrel changes have made much of an impact, though the paladin endurance chant is a huge boost i'd say, certainly when it comes down to tanks having to chase down shamans/bards etc and still be able to kill. Things are better though still far from perfect.

 

[Aule Valar]

Originally posted by Novamir
-bof, ablative chant, AF chant if pally twists = negates melee, which negates mids overpowered zerkers.

-hibs dont got any = we get owned always by zerkers.

-hibs got baod and generally best magic resists of 3 realms which will beat caster heavy grps if its up, which is mainly albs. (however its a chanter u have to kill to get rid of this, not a healer with 27% absorb and 2 instant heals - cleric)

that's kinda simplified but i think its what loff was getting at.

also hibs have v good magic resists from buffs which affects albs more than mids

 

[Jergiot]

Originally posted by Sharp Thing
admit it, 70% of the albion excal player base are crap and hardly know what the alb chars can do :|

stfu u twat, u stand still close ur eyes and press pbaoe button. fucking cunt go kill urself or something.


edit: sorry censi, i tried to keep the flaming out of this post, but sharp is a fucking moron.

 

[Qte Eth]

hib :
baod (on dam dealer ,up to 3 +in grp)
gp(on heal class,up to 2 in grp)
twf (1)
am(1) gotta heal 3k hp grp soon
VW ra,usefull aswell

insta amnesia to stop qc mes ,or mid mes
alb :
bof (up to 2 in grp)
sos(1)
fh(1)

1875 qc mes
mid ra:
pr (on healer,which in most cases would go after moc,purge,RP before,so at rr7++ he might get it,ok 1 perhaps) has uses ofc ,but it cant be compared to what any of sos/gp,baod/bof ra do
ichor(1) 8 sec root?

ae stun,insta ae stun ,and single stun. If facing albs has to use insta always or hes grp gets messed coz he qc from longer range with higher dex

So mids are left wo any useful grp ra at all,and cant do shit if they get messed ,while both albs and hibs have backup for that case
and aswell are vulnerable to both types of damage
so cant make a grp that will do fine with both hibs or albs ,coz melee suck with bof,and mages suck with baod,so grp has like half or less damage dealers left while those ras are up,while hibs are happy with pure ench grp ,and albs happy with pure melee grp wo any trouble to get immune fg

and aswell mid grp requires 2 healers ,one for mes ,other for heal, different speced(bard -dru and sorc-cler analog ) u cant heal ,and cc at same time and if u try to u are interupted 100% time

so make ur decisions

 

[Aule Valar]

happily the number of crap players went down as sharp left
and be fair, he's kept the enchanter for at least two months and hasn't rolled a zerk (possibly because having to actually select a target is too hard)

 

[Karlo]

ok so albs have great mellee absorbtion etc,

but get back to the point. Whats the point if when ruinning with 1fg you have 6 places filled as back bone, with 2 left.

Once again, where are the damage dealers in the group?!?!?

Thats the main problem albs have. As I said before, the other 2 realms having insta cc is a problem, but its possible to work around that. Workign around dealing heavy damage with a 6 person back bone group is v. hard.

 

[sorusi]

could use mercs as we use on mlf, and a friar + air theurg with that..

but then you like being gimped in all wierd ways

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by Karlo
ok so albs have great mellee absorbtion etc,

but get back to the point. Whats the point if when ruinning with 1fg you have 6 places filled as back bone, with 2 left.

Once again, where are the damage dealers in the group?!?!?

Thats the main problem albs have. As I said before, the other 2 realms having insta cc is a problem, but its possible to work around that. Workign around dealing heavy damage with a 6 person back bone group is v. hard.

who are hibs UBAR1337POWERDMGDEALAAARSS?

you can match em pretty fine afaik

 

[Novamir]

Originally posted by Aule Valar
also hibs have v good magic resists from buffs which affects albs more than mids

thats what i meant


Qte, ichor = ownage

 

[Qte Eth]

uh its only active ra mids have that has noticeble usage..
so yes it ownz

 

[Novamir]

1875 instant use + dmg on 15mins timer =

 

[gwal]

a balanced FG of well playing albs is capable of taking on anything, any1 who says otherwise talks pure crap..

whether or not were able to put the grp together is another matter, does happen more often by now than it used to tho

 

[Jiggs]

the best groups i played in (usually a BF/HB mix) have 2 clerics, BoF = 1 min, is really uber

also smite cleric with BoF, avoid pain and MoC is interesting