30mph limits illegal

[old.user4556]

Why is it fast driver or slow and annoying granny driver with so many people?

Probably because that's what it's like. However, it's not always like that in my own experience. I drive up and down the motorway every day to work and most of the time people are considerate. It's the odd prick in a Passat that ruins it all, driving up the arse, overtaking on the inside to get one car infront.

There should be more people on the road with your attitude nath, place would be safer.

 

[nath]

The thing is, I'm convinced it's *not* like that - it's just that you don't remember decent drivers because, since they're decent, they don't make an impact on you either way. However, it's easier to remember all the times some bad (slow) driver gets in your way and has no idea what they're doing.

 

[Tom]

That's really weird listeing to that. Sounds like I've got the window open and there's cars driving past.

Do you have surround sound? Or headphones? They're recorded in stereo, but the technique I used has the advantage of also recording a surround channel, that prologic systems can decode.

I'll have to think about the turbo one G, I can put a radio mic under the bonnet but its a bit risky (for the equipment not the car).

I'm going to do some tomorrow with some mics in the boot, and also the cabin, no reason really, just mucking around - although its good experience should I ever get booked for Top Gear or such.

 

[nath]

So you just left all this expensive recording stuff out on the street while you drove around? Isn't that a little dodgy?

 

[Tom]

Well normally yes, but in the middle of nowhere on a cold night, and nobody around for miles, its ok. It was actually a private road with fields on either side, only way up to it is by car.

 

[JBP|]

speed bumps are another problem round my way (dunno about anywhere else).

they are designed as traffic calming measures to stop people from speeding,however there seem to be an awfull lot of people who seem to think it means...

race up to them as fast as you can them stamp on the brakes and go over the bump at 5mph (repeat untill you run out of speed bumps)

 

[Bodhi]

The point you've managed to put across in actual fact, is that you are a bad driver Bodhi, and unable to control the speed you drive at.

Remember that accidents aren't always someones fault, especially the drivers involved, this is why they are called 'accidents'.

As the quote Catsby made says, if someone not paying due attention got in your way as you were speeding and you hit them, you will most likely kill them the way you drive. You might think 'their own fault for being so stupid' but no.. they would've survived if you were driving at a more reasonable speed.

If there's such a fucking rush to get somewhere, you should've left ten minutes earlier.

I'm more than capable of controlling the speed I drive at. Right pedal makes speedo needle go up, middle pedal makes it go down. Simple innit. Just because I don't agree with an arbitary limit enforced by some politician who gets chauffeuered everythwere doesn't make me a bad driver I'm afraid.

Anyway if someone not paying attention gets in my way and I kill them that's called natural selection I'm afraid. Might sound harsh but look at it this way - if I slow down a bit the accident is less serious but there's still an accident. If muppet features pays attention and doesn't cross a road without looking, the accident is avoided.

Pray tell me, how would I be at fault again?

 

[TdC]

we have to look out for the muppets Bods, that's the point. you can't expect them to look out for you.

 

[nath]

Yeah, I dunno about you but the main reason I'm a cautious driver is not to interact well with the other decent drivers but because I know other people can be shit drivers, shit pedestrians, and utter morons. The amount of times I've seen someone walk across the road, completely unaware of my car. It's inasne, but don't fancy hitting anyone so I drive safe.

 

[maxi]

i just hope that when bodhi does have a car accident he is the only that dies.

 

[rynnor]

speed bumps are another problem round my way (dunno about anywhere else).

they are designed as traffic calming measures to stop people from speeding,however there seem to be an awfull lot of people who seem to think it means...

race up to them as fast as you can them stamp on the brakes and go over the bump at 5mph (repeat untill you run out of speed bumps)

The council round our way put speedbumps on the roads around our local casualty unit (not little ones either but full width jobbies) - after numerous complaints by the public and the ambulance staff who said it was not only slowing their response but was aggravating the injuries of casualties with spinal damage they were forced to remove them.

However they are still putting in more bumps everyday - the roads round our way are so bad that the guy in the council responsible for the roads actually sued himself over damage to his car caused by potholes!

What the council said was that the money to create bumps was ringfenced by the Government so could not be used to repair the roads...

Crazy!!

 

[JBP|]

the point is you can safely navigate your way over a speed bump at 25-30 mph (if its on a 30mph road obviously)

there is absolutley no reason to jam on the anchors and cross it at 5mph (thats just fookin dangerous driving)

 

[Bodhi]

Precisely JBP. I find with most speed bumps, they do a lot less damage to your car's supension if you go over them quickly. For instance there were some outside our University hall of residence which really rattled you car at about 20, but at 40-50 they dissapeared.

Oh and maxi, learn to read jackass. I said I've already had a car accident. Strangely enough I was doing roughly the speed limit at the time (55-60 in a 50), but then I could have been doing 40, and chances are I still would have lost control on the diesel spill on the entrance to the corner. Diesel + Wet Roads = slippery slidy fun.

 

[Alliandre]

Assume everyone else who's on the road or the pavement's an idiot, and you should be able to avoid anything to serious.

As for some speed limits, they're just stupid. I'll give a couple of examples. There's one road near my house which is wide enough for one car. You have to pull into a layby to get past. The nobs who came up with the speed limits decided this was a good place to make it the national speed limit. There are regularly pedestrians and cyclists going down this road, and it's barely safe to go 30mph.

Head a mile off from that road, there's a nice big road with houses set 30 metres back from the road. There's hedges 15 metres back from the road, which is also the point at which the hedge is, and the road is perfectly straight, so everything is completely visible. There is rarely, if ever anything but cars going down that road. The idiots who came up with the speed limits decided to make this road a 30mph zone.

The speed limits aren't always right. Sometimes you have to make your own judgement as to the safest speed, and I'm sure if the people who came up with the limits for the roads actually drove down the roads that I mentioned, they'd see their mistakes immediately.

From this I'm forced to conclude that they couldn't be arsed to drive down these roads to set "proper" speed limits for them.

 

[Tom]

Head a mile off from that road, there's a nice big road with houses set 30 metres back from the road. There's hedges 15 metres back from the road, which is also the point at which the hedge is, and the road is perfectly straight, so everything is completely visible. There is rarely, if ever anything but cars going down that road. The idiots who came up with the speed limits decided to make this road a 30mph zone

And how noisy exactly would traffic at 50/60mph be? I wouldn't want to live on a street that sounded like that.

Generally speaking I think most speed limits are set about right. My issue is with the money-making scam that are speed cameras and speed traps. I also have a big issue with road calming measures, the roads are now so full of driver information that they're actually more difficult to navigate (which is surely the intended purpose - to slow people down).

Look on any old photograph of the area you live, and just see how simple the roads are to drive around (and no I haven't forgotten the level of traffic).

 

[Alliandre]

Well, being as the only time there's ever to many cars going down that road is at the beginning and end of school, the traffic noise wouldn't be to much of a problem.

As for the sign posts, I agree that my nearest decent sized town has alot of signs for navigation and stuff, though I find it highly unlikely that they introduced it solely for slowing people down. It just makes it easier for people who don't know how to look at a map who are new to an area or just passing through once.

 

[Jonaldo]

Anyway if someone not paying attention gets in my way and I kill them that's called natural selection I'm afraid.

And what's natural about cars again? This has nothing to do with natural selection. If anything it's the stupid killing the careless, if the population was to improve by something like this then maybe both would need to die.

if I slow down a bit the accident is less serious but there's still an accident. If muppet features pays attention and doesn't cross a road without looking, the accident is avoided.

If you slow down then you may be able to stop before you hit them. That is why the speed limit is so low in residential areas.

Pray tell me, how would I be at fault again?

By breaking the speed limit mayhaps? Thus breaking the law.

 

[Xtro]

Edited: I'd be banned if this stayed

 

[Will]

Edited: I'd be banned if this stayed

I'm keeping quiet in this thread for a similar reason.

 

[Xtro]

I'm keeping quiet in this thread for a similar reason.

Hard to keep schtum isn't it mate?

 

[Will]

Hard to keep schtum isn't it mate?

Nah, I used to get in discussions like this all the time due to all the cycling websites i hang about in...eventually, you've gone through every arguement, and you are left to conclude that some people will always be cocks, no matter how much you try to explain things to them.

 

[JBP|]

well comming home from cornwall today i think i have witnessed the case of bad driving ever.

bare in mind that we were on the M6 and it was raining,

if people with fog lights on wasnt bad enough (visability around 200 metres)
i was merrily trundeling along at 60ish mph when i saw a dark blob approaching me at quite a speed.


i changed lanes as soon as i realised it was a car on the inside lane doing 40ish mph with NO LIGHTS ON !


i can only assume that the person driving had some kind of death wish and was hoping to take as many out with him as he could

 

[Bodhi]

If you slow down then you may be able to stop before you hit them. That is why the speed limit is so low in residential areas.

You also need to learn to read. I said I never drive quickly in resedential areas.

 

[old.user4556]

Tiger woods is shit Bodhi and you KNOW IT.

 

[Bodhi]

I wish I was that shit at golf. Pretty sure I could cope with only earning 30 odd million a year when I'm in a slump in form

 

[old.user4556]

Sucks doesn't it, he probably made about £10 from prize money this year - nike need to stop throwing money at him.

 

[Jonaldo]

You also need to learn to read. I said I never drive quickly in resedential areas.

I can read just fine, that's how I manage to understand what people say on this forum and respond with my own opinions. Read through the entire thread, using my amazing 'read' ability, funnily enough would you belive that nowhere do you say you never speed in residential areas, not once, you could even say less than once, which could also be translated into "you didn't say that".

But that point besides, I can read fine thankyou.

 

[Mr.Monkey]

So Bodhi is a fucking retard. It's not like we needed further proof.
Some people never grow out of the 17 year old attitude "I'm right, and even tho everyone else says I'm wrong, I am better than them, so their rules don't apply to me".

*cough*

 

[Bodhi]

Sucks doesn't it, he probably made about £10 from prize money this year - nike need to stop throwing money at him.

I suppose $3 million is like a tenner to our Tigger. The lucky bastard is still on his honeymoon aswell.......


Oh and Mr Monkey stop dribbling there son. It'll fuck up your keyboard boy. And just think, without a keyboard you won't be able to translate all your repressed hatred into vitriolic attacks on internet forums. Good god if you couldn't post you might kill someone.....

/me backs away from the psycho monkey...

 

[Bullitt]

If your going to break the speed limits then at least make sure your always carrying an Organ Donor card, then at least something good can come of it.